Lin Gao Qiming
Chapter 25 Weapon Issues
Chapter 25 Weapon Issues
"What kind of weapon to choose depends first on the environment we are in and the enemy we are facing." Xi Yaya paused, probably to organize his words, "Our main opponents have three: a large number of simple firearms + cold weapons mixed The Han armed forces with infantry as the main force are represented by the Ming Dynasty army, including the late Ming bandits such as Li Chuang. Their main force basically comes from the rebels and deserters of the Ming army, and their equipment and tactics are basically the same; with cavalry as the main force, the configuration The Manchu Qing army with a small number of firearms; the Chinese and foreign pirates who were extremely active along the coast of China mainly with various firearms.
"We are not only relatively small in number, but also basically have no actual combat experience. We may not be as strong as these ancients in terms of psychological quality, so our weapons must adhere to two points:
"With a large enough range, it can fire at the farthest range to suppress the enemy's charge, and it can also be used to attack the enemy's artillery gunners and commanders. The 8-pound and 12-pound field artillery during the Napoleonic Wars had an effective range of only 900 meters. The level in the 17th century was lower, estimated at most 400 meters. The rifle should have at least this range.
"Our first two opponents will use cavalry as an assault force in combat, so weapons must have the ability to instantly project a large amount of ammunition to suppress the cavalry's impact. It is best to use machine guns, but it seems impossible for the time being. I just heard Introduction, I am afraid that the North American branch will not be able to get machine guns or automatic rifles."
"Then why doesn't SKS meet the requirements? I think they all meet: 400-meter effective range, 10-round magazine, and a maximum rate of fire of 40 rounds per minute. The performance is not outstanding, but the structure is simple, and everyone has basically touched it."
"I don't like the 7.62*39 M43 bullet," Xi Yazhou smiled. "This kind of rifle bullet uses a corrosive primer, which is very corrosive to the barrel, so it needs to be cleaned and maintained frequently. The place in Hainan itself As far as the environment is harsh, most people here have neither military experience nor knowledge of guns, and it is likely that the guns will be rusted due to not cleaning them frequently. It will be scrapped in a short time."
"Can a good-for-nothing who doesn't even polish a gun be a soldier? This reason is too flimsy."
Xi Yaya ignored the opposing voices: "The corrosive primer is also very corrosive to the shell case. It has a great impact on the reloading of the bullet."
"That's something to think about. Reloading was the only way we had to replenish ammo in the early days."
"The weapons of the Warsaw Pact system are based on ease of use and sufficient use. In other words, they have the ability to make weapons better, but the first consideration is cost. From this perspective, a long-lasting, But consuming too many resources is not in line with their military principles."
"In this time and space, of course it doesn't matter. If the gun is broken, just replace it with another one. And we have no way to replenish new modern weapons, so the full service life of the weapon must be considered."
"You mean the SKS's lifespan is too short?"
"That's right, not only SKS, but also weapons like AK." He stretched his numb legs and feet, "Also, SKS is a standard semi-automatic rifle. It's a standard semi-automatic rifle." Xi Yazhou emphasized this word , "That is, it cannot be turned into an automatic rifle."
The people in the venue were stunned for a moment, and suddenly understood, and those who were originally disapproving of his speech also raised their brows.
That's right, there are no automatic weapons in the U.S. civilian gun market, but those civilian AK\AR semi-automatic rifles that are modeled on military automatic rifles can actually be converted into fully automatic weapons.Of course, American law strictly prohibits this, and the offender is a felony.But the FBI can't control Daming!
AK47, M-16, these familiar words were flying in the conference room, and everyone fantasized about the heroic appearance of waving an AK or M16.
"Then let's buy a large number of AKs for civilian use!" Shi Yanren also became excited, "This gun has been on the market since 2004, and the stock is quite sufficient. With our mechanical capabilities, it is not a problem to change the gun."
"Why AK, I want M16!"
"What do you know, it's called AR15."
"If you change it, it will become M16."
"Hehe, I still say the same thing: I am not optimistic about the M43 bullet." Xi Yazhou is very satisfied with the effect of his words, "I also do not recommend using small-caliber rifles such as M16. It is not only a matter of stopping the action, but also a The power of the maximum range. In addition, small-caliber rifle bullets have higher requirements for production technology. I recommend using 7.62mm NATO semi-automatic rifles. Such as the civilian version of rifles such as M-14 and FN-FAL. Directly change to an automatic rifle There is no need to urgently equip machine guns."
"M-14? I heard that the accuracy is very good, but the power is too much, and the weight is also heavy."
"Is this gun a little complicated? It seems that American guns are all complicated in structure and difficult to maintain."
The controversy over guns lasted for half an hour, and Shi Yanren was bored. Seeing that the debate was fruitless, he proposed to talk to Xiaorui directly on the Internet. I have seen a lot of weird things in the gun, unlike the domestic AR15, which is a semi-automatic civilian version of the M16.
As a result, Xiaorui proposed another gun on the Internet: the Saiga-308 rifle, which no one had heard of.This is a Russian-made civilian semi-automatic rifle that uses 7.62mm NATO bullets.
AKs that can fire 5.56 bullets are not uncommon. Even North Industries has exported five-six punches that use 5.56 bullets.But this semi-automatic rifle of AK origin is a weapon that uses the full-power rifle ammunition of the US Empire.This is relatively rare.
Saiga-308 is a civilian sports and hunting rifle specially developed by the factory of Izhevsk, the main manufacturer of Kalashnikov firearms, for international AK rifle enthusiasts.In appearance, it almost retains the characteristics of all AK rifles, and the internal parts are basically from AKM and AK74.The muzzle uses a muzzle flash hider specially designed for SVDS sniper rifles, and various Soviet and Russian optical sights can be installed on the side rails. Saiga-308 has good shooting accuracy: it shoots 100 bullets at a distance of 10m, and the radius of the dispersion circle is only 40-45mm.The reliability of the weapon is also higher than that of ordinary AK.Aiming at the problem of excessive energy of the 7.62mm NATO bullet, a special cushion is installed on the back of the buttstock, which has a better effect, and ordinary adult men who are shooting a long gun for the first time will have no problem.
"This gun has good performance, sufficient power, and a long effective range. The weight of the empty gun is 3.6KG, and the standard configuration is 8 rounds of magazines. It can also be equipped with 20 rounds of magazines and large-capacity drums." Shi Yanren relayed Xiaorui The proposal, "The price is not expensive, the unit price is 500 US dollars, and if you buy in large quantities, you can get a discount. Of course, you can also buy M1A—the civilian version of M-14, which is much more expensive, and the market price is more than 1000 US dollars. "
"So Xiaorui suggested that we choose Saiga-308?"
"He didn't say that," what kind of person Shi Yanren is, he has long been a slippery professional elite.This kind of weapon selection is considered a major national event. Choosing the right weapon is just a rationalization suggestion. If you choose a bad weapon and you have trouble in the future, the mistake will be yours. Even if the leaders can forgive you, the masses will not understand. "I just want to give you a suggestion. How to make a decision depends on the executive committee."
This is tantamount to kicking the ball to the executive committee again.There is a lot of discussion here, and there is no decision.Compared with the passionate discussions of amateurs, no one in the sports group was interested in this issue at all except for one seat, Asia.In their opinion, five or six half is enough, why bother to pull out so many inexplicable things.
"Isn't it okay to have a bolt-action rifle?" Mr. Wen remembered that he went to a gun show when he was traveling in the United States. There were all kinds of antique rifles on it, including Mauser, Springfield, Mosin-Nagant... everything.And the price is very cheap.Such rifles are paired with long bayonets, black high hats, and soldiers in red and yellow woolen uniforms marching slowly in rows, which is spectacular.
But he knew that it was impossible to travel through the crowd to do this, so he didn't mention this little hobby.
The 7.62 NATO bomb VS 7.62 Warsaw Pact bomb still has no results in this meeting.In the end, six different solutions were summarized:
Adopt SKS semi-automatic.
Using M1A (M-14) semi-automatic
Using Saiga-308
Use the civilian semi-automatic version of AK47/74 or M16, and change it to fully automatic in the future.There are different opinions on whether it is AK or M16.
At the same time, a high-power long-range rifle and a medium-power rifle or small-caliber rifle are used.
bolt action rifle
Obviously there are supporters for each of these options, and each has its pros and cons.Just when the discussion started to develop in an unfriendly direction, Wen Desi promptly turned the topic to personal self-defense weapons.
The personal self-defense plan prepared by the sports team for everyone was a dagger, but at this time, with the golden finger of the North American sub-helm, it is unavoidable to be extravagant.Pistols are very popular in the American civilian market, and there are many models to choose from.However, in order to simplify equipment, facilitate repairs and replace parts, only one pistol can be selected.
There is no objection to using 9mm Parabellum ammunition. After all, this is a mainstream pistol ammunition. As for the pistol itself, most people prefer M9-the reason is that it is handsome and well-known. The heroic appearance of Xiaomao is a generation of people. unforgettable. M1911 is also supported by some people, but it is a little heavier, which is not liked by most petty bourgeoisie.As for PPK, S&W revolver, and Glock, there are people who support them.
Considering ease of use, portability, and ease of maintenance, the executive committee originally wanted to choose S&W's 9mm revolver, which has all the disadvantages of a revolver: air leaks, short range, less ammunition, and slow reloading.However, from the perspective of the Executive Committee, this thing is also used for self-defense within 30 meters anyway, and it does not need outstanding performance. The key is simplicity and durability.
The problem is that the sports group obviously doesn’t like this kind of weapon. PLA has never used a revolver tradition. Everyone is not at ease with this thing, and the shape of the revolver is obviously not cool enough. Seeing this gun reminds most of the time travelers to think of the lack of firepower. of the Royal Hong Kong Police.The consequence of the final balance is that both M9 and S&W's M337 are included in the purchase list.
(End of this chapter)
"What kind of weapon to choose depends first on the environment we are in and the enemy we are facing." Xi Yaya paused, probably to organize his words, "Our main opponents have three: a large number of simple firearms + cold weapons mixed The Han armed forces with infantry as the main force are represented by the Ming Dynasty army, including the late Ming bandits such as Li Chuang. Their main force basically comes from the rebels and deserters of the Ming army, and their equipment and tactics are basically the same; with cavalry as the main force, the configuration The Manchu Qing army with a small number of firearms; the Chinese and foreign pirates who were extremely active along the coast of China mainly with various firearms.
"We are not only relatively small in number, but also basically have no actual combat experience. We may not be as strong as these ancients in terms of psychological quality, so our weapons must adhere to two points:
"With a large enough range, it can fire at the farthest range to suppress the enemy's charge, and it can also be used to attack the enemy's artillery gunners and commanders. The 8-pound and 12-pound field artillery during the Napoleonic Wars had an effective range of only 900 meters. The level in the 17th century was lower, estimated at most 400 meters. The rifle should have at least this range.
"Our first two opponents will use cavalry as an assault force in combat, so weapons must have the ability to instantly project a large amount of ammunition to suppress the cavalry's impact. It is best to use machine guns, but it seems impossible for the time being. I just heard Introduction, I am afraid that the North American branch will not be able to get machine guns or automatic rifles."
"Then why doesn't SKS meet the requirements? I think they all meet: 400-meter effective range, 10-round magazine, and a maximum rate of fire of 40 rounds per minute. The performance is not outstanding, but the structure is simple, and everyone has basically touched it."
"I don't like the 7.62*39 M43 bullet," Xi Yazhou smiled. "This kind of rifle bullet uses a corrosive primer, which is very corrosive to the barrel, so it needs to be cleaned and maintained frequently. The place in Hainan itself As far as the environment is harsh, most people here have neither military experience nor knowledge of guns, and it is likely that the guns will be rusted due to not cleaning them frequently. It will be scrapped in a short time."
"Can a good-for-nothing who doesn't even polish a gun be a soldier? This reason is too flimsy."
Xi Yaya ignored the opposing voices: "The corrosive primer is also very corrosive to the shell case. It has a great impact on the reloading of the bullet."
"That's something to think about. Reloading was the only way we had to replenish ammo in the early days."
"The weapons of the Warsaw Pact system are based on ease of use and sufficient use. In other words, they have the ability to make weapons better, but the first consideration is cost. From this perspective, a long-lasting, But consuming too many resources is not in line with their military principles."
"In this time and space, of course it doesn't matter. If the gun is broken, just replace it with another one. And we have no way to replenish new modern weapons, so the full service life of the weapon must be considered."
"You mean the SKS's lifespan is too short?"
"That's right, not only SKS, but also weapons like AK." He stretched his numb legs and feet, "Also, SKS is a standard semi-automatic rifle. It's a standard semi-automatic rifle." Xi Yazhou emphasized this word , "That is, it cannot be turned into an automatic rifle."
The people in the venue were stunned for a moment, and suddenly understood, and those who were originally disapproving of his speech also raised their brows.
That's right, there are no automatic weapons in the U.S. civilian gun market, but those civilian AK\AR semi-automatic rifles that are modeled on military automatic rifles can actually be converted into fully automatic weapons.Of course, American law strictly prohibits this, and the offender is a felony.But the FBI can't control Daming!
AK47, M-16, these familiar words were flying in the conference room, and everyone fantasized about the heroic appearance of waving an AK or M16.
"Then let's buy a large number of AKs for civilian use!" Shi Yanren also became excited, "This gun has been on the market since 2004, and the stock is quite sufficient. With our mechanical capabilities, it is not a problem to change the gun."
"Why AK, I want M16!"
"What do you know, it's called AR15."
"If you change it, it will become M16."
"Hehe, I still say the same thing: I am not optimistic about the M43 bullet." Xi Yazhou is very satisfied with the effect of his words, "I also do not recommend using small-caliber rifles such as M16. It is not only a matter of stopping the action, but also a The power of the maximum range. In addition, small-caliber rifle bullets have higher requirements for production technology. I recommend using 7.62mm NATO semi-automatic rifles. Such as the civilian version of rifles such as M-14 and FN-FAL. Directly change to an automatic rifle There is no need to urgently equip machine guns."
"M-14? I heard that the accuracy is very good, but the power is too much, and the weight is also heavy."
"Is this gun a little complicated? It seems that American guns are all complicated in structure and difficult to maintain."
The controversy over guns lasted for half an hour, and Shi Yanren was bored. Seeing that the debate was fruitless, he proposed to talk to Xiaorui directly on the Internet. I have seen a lot of weird things in the gun, unlike the domestic AR15, which is a semi-automatic civilian version of the M16.
As a result, Xiaorui proposed another gun on the Internet: the Saiga-308 rifle, which no one had heard of.This is a Russian-made civilian semi-automatic rifle that uses 7.62mm NATO bullets.
AKs that can fire 5.56 bullets are not uncommon. Even North Industries has exported five-six punches that use 5.56 bullets.But this semi-automatic rifle of AK origin is a weapon that uses the full-power rifle ammunition of the US Empire.This is relatively rare.
Saiga-308 is a civilian sports and hunting rifle specially developed by the factory of Izhevsk, the main manufacturer of Kalashnikov firearms, for international AK rifle enthusiasts.In appearance, it almost retains the characteristics of all AK rifles, and the internal parts are basically from AKM and AK74.The muzzle uses a muzzle flash hider specially designed for SVDS sniper rifles, and various Soviet and Russian optical sights can be installed on the side rails. Saiga-308 has good shooting accuracy: it shoots 100 bullets at a distance of 10m, and the radius of the dispersion circle is only 40-45mm.The reliability of the weapon is also higher than that of ordinary AK.Aiming at the problem of excessive energy of the 7.62mm NATO bullet, a special cushion is installed on the back of the buttstock, which has a better effect, and ordinary adult men who are shooting a long gun for the first time will have no problem.
"This gun has good performance, sufficient power, and a long effective range. The weight of the empty gun is 3.6KG, and the standard configuration is 8 rounds of magazines. It can also be equipped with 20 rounds of magazines and large-capacity drums." Shi Yanren relayed Xiaorui The proposal, "The price is not expensive, the unit price is 500 US dollars, and if you buy in large quantities, you can get a discount. Of course, you can also buy M1A—the civilian version of M-14, which is much more expensive, and the market price is more than 1000 US dollars. "
"So Xiaorui suggested that we choose Saiga-308?"
"He didn't say that," what kind of person Shi Yanren is, he has long been a slippery professional elite.This kind of weapon selection is considered a major national event. Choosing the right weapon is just a rationalization suggestion. If you choose a bad weapon and you have trouble in the future, the mistake will be yours. Even if the leaders can forgive you, the masses will not understand. "I just want to give you a suggestion. How to make a decision depends on the executive committee."
This is tantamount to kicking the ball to the executive committee again.There is a lot of discussion here, and there is no decision.Compared with the passionate discussions of amateurs, no one in the sports group was interested in this issue at all except for one seat, Asia.In their opinion, five or six half is enough, why bother to pull out so many inexplicable things.
"Isn't it okay to have a bolt-action rifle?" Mr. Wen remembered that he went to a gun show when he was traveling in the United States. There were all kinds of antique rifles on it, including Mauser, Springfield, Mosin-Nagant... everything.And the price is very cheap.Such rifles are paired with long bayonets, black high hats, and soldiers in red and yellow woolen uniforms marching slowly in rows, which is spectacular.
But he knew that it was impossible to travel through the crowd to do this, so he didn't mention this little hobby.
The 7.62 NATO bomb VS 7.62 Warsaw Pact bomb still has no results in this meeting.In the end, six different solutions were summarized:
Adopt SKS semi-automatic.
Using M1A (M-14) semi-automatic
Using Saiga-308
Use the civilian semi-automatic version of AK47/74 or M16, and change it to fully automatic in the future.There are different opinions on whether it is AK or M16.
At the same time, a high-power long-range rifle and a medium-power rifle or small-caliber rifle are used.
bolt action rifle
Obviously there are supporters for each of these options, and each has its pros and cons.Just when the discussion started to develop in an unfriendly direction, Wen Desi promptly turned the topic to personal self-defense weapons.
The personal self-defense plan prepared by the sports team for everyone was a dagger, but at this time, with the golden finger of the North American sub-helm, it is unavoidable to be extravagant.Pistols are very popular in the American civilian market, and there are many models to choose from.However, in order to simplify equipment, facilitate repairs and replace parts, only one pistol can be selected.
There is no objection to using 9mm Parabellum ammunition. After all, this is a mainstream pistol ammunition. As for the pistol itself, most people prefer M9-the reason is that it is handsome and well-known. The heroic appearance of Xiaomao is a generation of people. unforgettable. M1911 is also supported by some people, but it is a little heavier, which is not liked by most petty bourgeoisie.As for PPK, S&W revolver, and Glock, there are people who support them.
Considering ease of use, portability, and ease of maintenance, the executive committee originally wanted to choose S&W's 9mm revolver, which has all the disadvantages of a revolver: air leaks, short range, less ammunition, and slow reloading.However, from the perspective of the Executive Committee, this thing is also used for self-defense within 30 meters anyway, and it does not need outstanding performance. The key is simplicity and durability.
The problem is that the sports group obviously doesn’t like this kind of weapon. PLA has never used a revolver tradition. Everyone is not at ease with this thing, and the shape of the revolver is obviously not cool enough. Seeing this gun reminds most of the time travelers to think of the lack of firepower. of the Royal Hong Kong Police.The consequence of the final balance is that both M9 and S&W's M337 are included in the purchase list.
(End of this chapter)
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