The Horse of the Three Kingdoms Treads the World
Chapter 235 Eloquent
() When Ma Yue proposed his idea before, Ma Teng was really taken aback. Although his reaction was not as intense as those of the current generals, he was still strongly opposed to returning to Xiliang. .However, after Ma Yue's careful analysis, Ma Teng still accepted the seemingly absurd decision proposed by his son.
However, seeing all the generals condemning Ma Yue's proposal as a foolish move and a way to trap the Xiliang army to death, Ma Teng still couldn't help feeling nervous, but he didn't know whether his son was sure to use his words Convince them.However, seeing Ma Yue's indifferent attitude, Ma Teng's heart sank a little, as if the situation was not so bad that it was difficult to deal with it.
In fact, Ma Yue was prepared for the fierce reaction of these generals, so he appeared calm and composed. Even though their saliva was about to spray on his face, he still looked calm and clear.It wasn't until everyone had vented for a while that they calmed down a bit, before he said, "I'm naturally clear about what you are worried about. I understand how difficult it is for the lord to create today's situation, so you don't need to repeat it." gone."
"In this case, why do you still say that we should abandon Chang'an and return to Xiliang?" Suddenly, everyone looked at Ma Yue aggressively, waiting for him to give everyone a satisfactory answer.
But Ma Yue didn't answer immediately, but instead asked a question: "What do you think, why do those local forces unite and fight us several times?"
"Of course it's because they thought they were superior to us, but now they are not satisfied with being compared to us!"
"That's right, don't look at them saying that they are for the court and the emperor, but in fact they are for themselves. They are worried that once we Xiliang people take control of the court, it will be bad for them!"
Although some of these statements are analyzed from their perspective, the truth of the facts is roughly the same.Ma Yue also nodded and said: "What you said is true, it is precisely because they are worried that we will seize the power of the court, they will continue to send troops to fight against us at all costs, and even after suffering a lot of losses, they still remain the same .
"What we are facing now is such a situation. If we continue to stay in Chang'an City with the emperor, the various forces in the Central Plains will continue to use this as an excuse to continue to use troops against us. Even if we can rely on our soldiers today The bravery and strategic superiority achieved victory, but the loss to ourselves is still extremely huge.
"Perhaps we can defeat the Kwantung Allied Forces launched by Yuan Shao, but soon, there will be another group of troops led by others to revolt. Liu Biao of Jingzhou, Liu Zhang of Xichuan... These Han family clansmen are also all Those with a large army in their hands, if they also use this as an excuse to send troops, the momentum will probably be a little bigger than today.
"Do you think that at that time, when we are exhausted due to the bitter battle with Yuan Shao, but there are more enemies, will we still be able to preserve ourselves?"
"This..." Everyone was stunned when they heard this. Even if they wanted to oppose Ma Yue, they couldn't say against their will that the Xiliang Army could continue to fight these troops from all over the Central Plains without interruption. That's unrealistic. of.But they obviously didn't think Ma Yue's words were enough to convince themselves, so they immediately said: "You are scaremongering, it is still uncertain whether these people will cause trouble, how can they be brought out to speak out? What's more, Could it be that if we leave Chang'an like this, they won't be our enemies anymore?"
"Because Yuan Shao was born as a Hanchen, he seized the fact that we had abolished the emperor and established a new one, and suddenly launched an attack, and let him pull up such a large army. Then you think those Han clansmen will see the emperor being killed Are we in control and not interfering? And with their prestige and the vastness of their location, can't they raise soldiers?" Ma Yue sneered: "Even ordinary soldiers can clearly think of this. , Everyone said it was impossible, but this would be deceitful."
Everyone was speechless again by Ma Yue.In fact, they also knew very well what the other party said. Even people like Yuan Shao and Cao Cao would raise troops, and other people would naturally see the benefits of this.So it's only a matter of time before these people's uprising, maybe they are just waiting for a better time, when the Xiliang Army and the Kwantung Allied Forces have lost both sides, and they can't continue, they will use the right banner to send troops brazenly .
Seeing that some words finally suppressed the arrogance of the crowd, Ma Yue finally expressed his breath. As long as he can suppress them in aura, it will not be so difficult to persuade them.He looked at the generals and saw that they didn't refute his intentions, so he said again: "Let's go back to the question just now, why did Yuan Shao and others stalk so hard? Are you willing to give up?
"That's because they don't want us to control the government. People in the Central Plains have always had prejudices against my frontier army in the west, and we have fallen into the trap of others. Naturally, they will not let us get what we want. As long as We are still in Chang'an, and we are still in front of the emperor for a day, and they will continue to use troops against us. In that way, no matter how capable and brave our Xiliang army is, we will only be defeated every day.
"That's why I came up with the idea of abandoning Chang'an and the Son of Heaven and returning to Xiliang. This is for the safety of our Xiliang army. As the saying goes, if you keep the green hills, you won't be afraid of running out of firewood!"
"You put it lightly, if we quit Chang'an, they still won't let us go? Don't forget, we have already quit Luoyang before, but the result is not the same?" Zhao Yuan retorted with a sneer.
But Ma Yue shook his head: "This is obviously completely different from our previous exit from Luoyang. Because when we left Luoyang, we still carried the emperor with us. Since the emperor is still in our hands, they will naturally not give up. But this time , as long as we give up the emperor as well, it will make them lose their excuse to fight us to the death."
"I'm afraid this is wrong? We have fought many times with the Kwantung Allied Forces, and the two sides have already formed a deep hatred. Will they stop fighting because of our retreat? I am afraid that our behavior will increase their arrogance and make them more determined. The land is going to use troops against us!" Zhang Ji shook his head in disbelief.
Ma Yue smiled: "If the general's concerns are valid under normal circumstances, the Kwantung Allied Forces we are facing cannot be treated with common sense. The Kwantung Allied Forces are just a joint army composed of many people. They also have many conflicts of interest within them. If the foreign enemy is strong and still threatens them, they can indeed work together. But once the foreign enemy recedes and there is no longer any threat, some contradictions and discords will appear between them.
"When we left Luoyang before, didn't they have a lot of internal problems? This is still in the situation that the emperor is still in our hands. If we don't even want the emperor this time, then they are under pressure. Next, what kind of trade-offs will you make?
"I'm afraid that even if these people are thinking about their own future, they won't fight with us anymore? Moreover, this emperor will become the key point of their dispute. There is an ancient saying that two peaches kill three scholars. Today we will send the emperor In their hands, it is enough to make these people fight to the death. There are also other local forces in the world. Once they see such a situation, they will inevitably be unable to hold back, and thus cause disputes in the Central Plains again.
"At this time, when we return to Xiliang, we can sit on the mountain and watch the tigers fight, and watch the various forces in the Central Plains fight to the death for the emperor. After they are all struggling, we have already raised our spirits , if we send troops to the Central Plains at this time, it will not be the current situation, but we can control the entire Central Plains in one fell swoop. I don’t know if you think the next analysis is reasonable?”
After Ma Yue said such a long speech, all the generals fell into deep thought.In fact, since Dong Zhuo was killed, they were also thinking about their future. They were also worried that if they stayed in Chang'an for a long time, it would bring disaster to themselves and their soldiers, and they also had the intention of shrinking back.But he didn't think as thoroughly as Ma Yue did. Now after listening to his analysis, everyone felt that there was a lot to be done about this matter.
However, starting from their original intentions, they still didn't want to retreat at this point. Xiliang people have always been aggressive, so why are they willing to be deserters?Of course, if Ma Yue could give more reasons, maybe they would still choose to leave.
Niu Fu frowned, and after a long silence, he asked: "What you said is not unreasonable, but if this is the case, where will I be equal? We came here with the expectations of the elders in Xiliang, and it turned out that Not only did I go back in despair, but even the lord died in Chang'an, so how do we face the elders in the village?"
Hearing this, Ma Yue was even more determined, he knew that the other party was already moved.But because there is some embarrassment in face, there is such a saying.So he went on to say: "It is indeed sad that the lord was murdered by others, but now we should look forward and not get too entangled in these old enemies. We will record this account and wait until the future. It's not too late to find them!
"As for saying that we haven't gained anything so far, it's wrong. We have obtained a lot of property from Luoyang and other places, which we can't get in Xiliang. Besides, we can also take the people around Chang'an City together. Bringing it back to Xiliang will enable our Xiliang to develop better. Isn't this a great thing?
"As long as we have some patience and get through this difficult time first, there will always be a day when we will succeed in the future. This is all for the rest of my words, and I hope that the generals will put the overall situation first, and don't put me down because of a moment of anger. Tens of thousands of troops are in such a dangerous situation!" After saying this, Ma Yue bowed his hands and saluted the surrounding generals repeatedly.
The generals in the field were silent again, looking at each other in blank dismay, and no one stood up to speak for a long time, no matter whether they agreed or opposed.This is enough to explain everything, they have actually acquiesced to Ma Yue's proposal, they just need to give them a little more time...
However, seeing all the generals condemning Ma Yue's proposal as a foolish move and a way to trap the Xiliang army to death, Ma Teng still couldn't help feeling nervous, but he didn't know whether his son was sure to use his words Convince them.However, seeing Ma Yue's indifferent attitude, Ma Teng's heart sank a little, as if the situation was not so bad that it was difficult to deal with it.
In fact, Ma Yue was prepared for the fierce reaction of these generals, so he appeared calm and composed. Even though their saliva was about to spray on his face, he still looked calm and clear.It wasn't until everyone had vented for a while that they calmed down a bit, before he said, "I'm naturally clear about what you are worried about. I understand how difficult it is for the lord to create today's situation, so you don't need to repeat it." gone."
"In this case, why do you still say that we should abandon Chang'an and return to Xiliang?" Suddenly, everyone looked at Ma Yue aggressively, waiting for him to give everyone a satisfactory answer.
But Ma Yue didn't answer immediately, but instead asked a question: "What do you think, why do those local forces unite and fight us several times?"
"Of course it's because they thought they were superior to us, but now they are not satisfied with being compared to us!"
"That's right, don't look at them saying that they are for the court and the emperor, but in fact they are for themselves. They are worried that once we Xiliang people take control of the court, it will be bad for them!"
Although some of these statements are analyzed from their perspective, the truth of the facts is roughly the same.Ma Yue also nodded and said: "What you said is true, it is precisely because they are worried that we will seize the power of the court, they will continue to send troops to fight against us at all costs, and even after suffering a lot of losses, they still remain the same .
"What we are facing now is such a situation. If we continue to stay in Chang'an City with the emperor, the various forces in the Central Plains will continue to use this as an excuse to continue to use troops against us. Even if we can rely on our soldiers today The bravery and strategic superiority achieved victory, but the loss to ourselves is still extremely huge.
"Perhaps we can defeat the Kwantung Allied Forces launched by Yuan Shao, but soon, there will be another group of troops led by others to revolt. Liu Biao of Jingzhou, Liu Zhang of Xichuan... These Han family clansmen are also all Those with a large army in their hands, if they also use this as an excuse to send troops, the momentum will probably be a little bigger than today.
"Do you think that at that time, when we are exhausted due to the bitter battle with Yuan Shao, but there are more enemies, will we still be able to preserve ourselves?"
"This..." Everyone was stunned when they heard this. Even if they wanted to oppose Ma Yue, they couldn't say against their will that the Xiliang Army could continue to fight these troops from all over the Central Plains without interruption. That's unrealistic. of.But they obviously didn't think Ma Yue's words were enough to convince themselves, so they immediately said: "You are scaremongering, it is still uncertain whether these people will cause trouble, how can they be brought out to speak out? What's more, Could it be that if we leave Chang'an like this, they won't be our enemies anymore?"
"Because Yuan Shao was born as a Hanchen, he seized the fact that we had abolished the emperor and established a new one, and suddenly launched an attack, and let him pull up such a large army. Then you think those Han clansmen will see the emperor being killed Are we in control and not interfering? And with their prestige and the vastness of their location, can't they raise soldiers?" Ma Yue sneered: "Even ordinary soldiers can clearly think of this. , Everyone said it was impossible, but this would be deceitful."
Everyone was speechless again by Ma Yue.In fact, they also knew very well what the other party said. Even people like Yuan Shao and Cao Cao would raise troops, and other people would naturally see the benefits of this.So it's only a matter of time before these people's uprising, maybe they are just waiting for a better time, when the Xiliang Army and the Kwantung Allied Forces have lost both sides, and they can't continue, they will use the right banner to send troops brazenly .
Seeing that some words finally suppressed the arrogance of the crowd, Ma Yue finally expressed his breath. As long as he can suppress them in aura, it will not be so difficult to persuade them.He looked at the generals and saw that they didn't refute his intentions, so he said again: "Let's go back to the question just now, why did Yuan Shao and others stalk so hard? Are you willing to give up?
"That's because they don't want us to control the government. People in the Central Plains have always had prejudices against my frontier army in the west, and we have fallen into the trap of others. Naturally, they will not let us get what we want. As long as We are still in Chang'an, and we are still in front of the emperor for a day, and they will continue to use troops against us. In that way, no matter how capable and brave our Xiliang army is, we will only be defeated every day.
"That's why I came up with the idea of abandoning Chang'an and the Son of Heaven and returning to Xiliang. This is for the safety of our Xiliang army. As the saying goes, if you keep the green hills, you won't be afraid of running out of firewood!"
"You put it lightly, if we quit Chang'an, they still won't let us go? Don't forget, we have already quit Luoyang before, but the result is not the same?" Zhao Yuan retorted with a sneer.
But Ma Yue shook his head: "This is obviously completely different from our previous exit from Luoyang. Because when we left Luoyang, we still carried the emperor with us. Since the emperor is still in our hands, they will naturally not give up. But this time , as long as we give up the emperor as well, it will make them lose their excuse to fight us to the death."
"I'm afraid this is wrong? We have fought many times with the Kwantung Allied Forces, and the two sides have already formed a deep hatred. Will they stop fighting because of our retreat? I am afraid that our behavior will increase their arrogance and make them more determined. The land is going to use troops against us!" Zhang Ji shook his head in disbelief.
Ma Yue smiled: "If the general's concerns are valid under normal circumstances, the Kwantung Allied Forces we are facing cannot be treated with common sense. The Kwantung Allied Forces are just a joint army composed of many people. They also have many conflicts of interest within them. If the foreign enemy is strong and still threatens them, they can indeed work together. But once the foreign enemy recedes and there is no longer any threat, some contradictions and discords will appear between them.
"When we left Luoyang before, didn't they have a lot of internal problems? This is still in the situation that the emperor is still in our hands. If we don't even want the emperor this time, then they are under pressure. Next, what kind of trade-offs will you make?
"I'm afraid that even if these people are thinking about their own future, they won't fight with us anymore? Moreover, this emperor will become the key point of their dispute. There is an ancient saying that two peaches kill three scholars. Today we will send the emperor In their hands, it is enough to make these people fight to the death. There are also other local forces in the world. Once they see such a situation, they will inevitably be unable to hold back, and thus cause disputes in the Central Plains again.
"At this time, when we return to Xiliang, we can sit on the mountain and watch the tigers fight, and watch the various forces in the Central Plains fight to the death for the emperor. After they are all struggling, we have already raised our spirits , if we send troops to the Central Plains at this time, it will not be the current situation, but we can control the entire Central Plains in one fell swoop. I don’t know if you think the next analysis is reasonable?”
After Ma Yue said such a long speech, all the generals fell into deep thought.In fact, since Dong Zhuo was killed, they were also thinking about their future. They were also worried that if they stayed in Chang'an for a long time, it would bring disaster to themselves and their soldiers, and they also had the intention of shrinking back.But he didn't think as thoroughly as Ma Yue did. Now after listening to his analysis, everyone felt that there was a lot to be done about this matter.
However, starting from their original intentions, they still didn't want to retreat at this point. Xiliang people have always been aggressive, so why are they willing to be deserters?Of course, if Ma Yue could give more reasons, maybe they would still choose to leave.
Niu Fu frowned, and after a long silence, he asked: "What you said is not unreasonable, but if this is the case, where will I be equal? We came here with the expectations of the elders in Xiliang, and it turned out that Not only did I go back in despair, but even the lord died in Chang'an, so how do we face the elders in the village?"
Hearing this, Ma Yue was even more determined, he knew that the other party was already moved.But because there is some embarrassment in face, there is such a saying.So he went on to say: "It is indeed sad that the lord was murdered by others, but now we should look forward and not get too entangled in these old enemies. We will record this account and wait until the future. It's not too late to find them!
"As for saying that we haven't gained anything so far, it's wrong. We have obtained a lot of property from Luoyang and other places, which we can't get in Xiliang. Besides, we can also take the people around Chang'an City together. Bringing it back to Xiliang will enable our Xiliang to develop better. Isn't this a great thing?
"As long as we have some patience and get through this difficult time first, there will always be a day when we will succeed in the future. This is all for the rest of my words, and I hope that the generals will put the overall situation first, and don't put me down because of a moment of anger. Tens of thousands of troops are in such a dangerous situation!" After saying this, Ma Yue bowed his hands and saluted the surrounding generals repeatedly.
The generals in the field were silent again, looking at each other in blank dismay, and no one stood up to speak for a long time, no matter whether they agreed or opposed.This is enough to explain everything, they have actually acquiesced to Ma Yue's proposal, they just need to give them a little more time...
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