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Chapter 895 Official Kiln in Cizhou Kiln?
Chapter 895 Official Kiln in Cizhou Kiln?
In other words, Xiao Ma has long wanted to sell this plum vase to improve his living environment, but it is difficult to find a good buyer, either because he thinks it is too expensive, or because he wants something like this, so he has been procrastinating until now.Now that he finally has a big customer like Chu Chen, even if he gives up some benefits, he will agree.
Xiao Ma smiled and said to Chu Chen: "Mr. Chu, it is true that this auction does not have such a price, but that is because there is no such high-quality goods in the auction. Of course, if you really want it, I can also give you a cheaper price." Some……"
Next, the two bargained and finally set the price at 360 million, and everyone was happy for a while.
In addition to being happy, Xiao Ma also gave a discounted price for the few items that he took out earlier. The four items only cost [-] in total, which is equivalent to a [-]% discount on Chu Chen's estimated price.
After the transaction was completed, Xiao Ma originally wanted to invite Chu Chen and the others to have lunch, but Chu Chen saw that it was not until 10:30, and there was still time to go back to the hotel for dinner, so he politely refused.Afterwards, they returned to the hotel in a commercial vehicle called by Xiao Ma.
After getting out of the car, Chu Chen hugged the plum bottle, walked towards the hotel, and said to Zuo Shan, "I have already contacted Zuo Shan about the transportation, and I will be here in about an hour. You just follow them when the time comes."
Zuo Shan nodded solemnly when he heard the words: "Young Master Chu, don't worry! I will definitely send this bottle back to Beijing safely!"
Chu Chen chuckled: "I have nothing to worry about when you're doing something... Hey! Mr. Xu, what's the matter with you in such a hurry?"
As soon as the words were said, the three met Mr. Xu who had just finished eating and looked a little hurried.
"It's not Xiao Chu, you are going back, I have to hurry up and study those manuscripts!"
Mr. Xu laughed, and then he noticed the plum vase in Chu Chen's hand, and he was taken aback for a moment. After a while, he asked in shock: "Xiao Chu, your plum vase seems to be Something from the Cizhou Kiln in the Northern Song Dynasty?"
Chu Chen nodded with a smile: "Yes, it was indeed made by Cizhou Kiln in the Northern Song Dynasty."
Mr. Xu opened his mouth when he heard the words, then looked at the plum vase carefully, and then said: "This...Xiao Chu, you really have no luck, you have to take all the good things out of your hands Now, this plum vase can't be picked up again by you, right?"
Chu Chen smiled and shook his head: "How can you miss something that opens the door?"
"That's right!" Mr. Xu laughed, knowing that he was wrong. If Chu Chen could miss such a thing, then he didn't know what to say.
Mr. Xu went on to say, "However, as long as the price is not too outrageous, I think it's still worth it. Moreover, I think the information reflected in this plum vase is very unusual!"
"Yes! I think so too!"
Speaking of this plum vase, Chu Chen immediately forgot about his hunger, and said excitedly: "Mr. Xu, this is not a place to talk, let's discuss it in my room!"
"Row……"
After saying that, Chu Chen took everyone back to his room, but when Wu Ke walked to the door, he said to Zuo Shan: "Brother Zuo, go to eat first, just help us get some food later." .”
"OK……"
When Chu Chen returned to the room, he carefully placed the plum vase on the table, and asked Mr. Xu to appreciate it first.
After more than ten minutes, Mr. Xu let out a long breath and praised: "Good thing! It's really good thing! It's the first time I've seen a Cizhou kiln plum vase of the Northern Song Dynasty with such exquisite workmanship and such a huge size. What's even more rare is that it still uses the technique of picking flowers with white ground and black glaze."
The technique of picking flowers with black glaze on white ground was very difficult for the craft level at that time.
It first needs to apply white makeup soil on the carcass, and then black makeup soil. On the semi-dried makeup soil, quickly carve out the black makeup soil other than peony flowers and leaves to reveal the white base, and then draw peony petals. Leaf stems, curly grass, lotus petals and other patterns, and then apply transparent glaze after drying, which shows the difficulty of its craftsmanship.
This technique mostly appeared on Cizhou kilns from the [-]th to [-]th centuries, and later exerted a wide influence on neighboring porcelain kilns.
"Yes, I have never seen such porcelain from the Northern Song Dynasty Porcelain Kiln in any museum or magazine before." Chu Chen also seemed quite excited.
"So, you kid is lucky!"
Elder Xu sighed enviously again, and then asked with a smile: "By the way, since you said just now that this plum vase is unusual, can you tell me what is unusual about it?"
Chu Chen smiled slightly and said, "Old Xu, what I said is unusual is just speculation, but it can't be taken seriously."
Old Xu smiled and said, "It's okay, you can just say it straight, as long as you don't make random guesses!"
"Okay, then I will talk about my opinion, and please help me to correct if I am wrong!"
Chu Chen clasped his fists to Mr. Xu, and then expressed his thoughts: "I think the kiln mouth where this plum vase is made should be the official kiln in Cizhou Kiln..."
Speaking of this, Wu Ke who was standing next to him interrupted: "Achen, isn't it right? Isn't the Cizhou kiln a folk kiln? Why is there an official kiln? And if it was an official kiln, why is there no such thing in the literature at that time?" record?"
"That's why I said it was a guess!" Chu Chen spread his hands and said with a smile, "However, there is a basis for my guess."
"What basis?" Elder Xu asked.
Chu Chen explained with a smile: "The earliest record of Cizhou kiln in history is Cao Zhao's "Ge Gu Yao Lun" in Hongwu period of Ming Dynasty, but Cao Zhao did not say when Cizhou kiln was opened. Until the Qing Dynasty In the literature, the Cizhou Kiln was only mentioned in the Northern Song Dynasty, but whether it was a folk kiln or an official kiln was not mentioned."
"However, in the documents of the Ming Dynasty, it is recorded that there were more than forty official kilns in Cizhou Kiln, and the magnetic altar was built in Guanglu Temple every year." According to records, there are more than 1 royal vases and altars in annual tribute."
"Here, I would like to explain that the 'Guanglu Temple' in the article refers to Guanglu Siqing or Guangluqing. This official position was in charge of the royal family's wine, rituals and delicacies in the Ming Dynasty. It did not exist in the Song Dynasty, but although the Song Dynasty did not have this position , the royal family always wants to drink."
"You know, Bianjing in the Northern Song Dynasty was full of feasting and feasting. The royal family needed a lot of wine, wine bottles and altars every day and night banquets. During festivals, birthdays, and birthday celebrations, the royal family and nobles would also give wine to each other. According to literature records, the royal family is expensive There are as many as [-] bottles of wine given to Zhouyu festivals at a time. It can be seen that the royal family used wine in the Northern Song Dynasty.
"Then, here comes the question, which porcelain kiln produced the wine bottles and jars used for so many wines? I think there must have been a royal porcelain factory that produced high-end wine bottles and wine jars at that time."
Hearing this, Wu Ke asked: "Ah Chen, do you mean that the Cizhou kiln in the Northern Song Dynasty is also like the Cizhou kiln in the Ming Dynasty, and a part of the kiln mouth is specially used to make wine vessels for the royal family? "
"This point, because there is no written record, so it is not easy to be sure, but I speculate that some of the mouths of the Cizhou kiln at that time were official kilns. It is still very possible."
Chu Chen explained: "As we all know, there are five famous kilns in the official kilns of the Northern Song Dynasty. Most of the five famous kiln wares are set-up utensils and study utensils. There are very few bottles and altars, and there are even fewer large-scale vases and altars. Besides. For the five famous kilns in the Northern Song Dynasty, there is no record in the history of the Song Dynasty. The earliest record is the "Xuande Ding Yi Pu" in the Xuande period of the Ming Dynasty. Then, it is not enough that there are no documents in the Northern Song Dynasty for the imperial wine bottles and altars. Strange..."
Next, Chu Chen explained why he thought part of the Cizhou Kiln in the Northern Song Dynasty was an official kiln, and Xu Lao and Wu Ke nodded repeatedly.
At the end, Chu Chen sighed and said: "Unfortunately, the Northern Song Dynasty was too short, and because of the war, some materials at that time were also destroyed, otherwise we might be able to find the Cizhou kiln. There were also official kilns in the Northern Song Dynasty. evidence of."
Mr. Xu smiled slightly and said: "History is full of uncertain factors. It is precisely because of this that our research on cultural relics is fun. To put it bluntly, if everything is documented, then why do we bother with it?" Spend a lot of effort on research?"
Chu Chen smiled and nodded, "That's right!"
At this time, Wu Ke asked curiously: "Achen, since it is your speculation that the Cizhou Kiln had an official kiln in the Northern Song Dynasty, how could you think that this plum vase would be the work of an official Cizhou Kiln?"
"First of all, you need to know what is the white ground black glaze picking technique..."
Chu Chen first introduced this technique, and then explained: "The difficulty of this kind of craftsmanship lies in the fact that firstly there must be a fixed pattern, and then the combination of picking, engraving, and scratching techniques. This requires the craftsman to have extremely skilled skills. , Painting on the semi-dry makeup soil is like flying with a knife, and the knife is like a brush, and the carving is as free and rigorous as painting on rice paper. It is done in one go. Then it is necessary to use a large sagger to bottle pottery."
"In the Northern Song Dynasty almost a thousand years ago, craftsmen were able to create such a domineering and regular magnum. The difficulty and production cost were definitely beyond the reach of folk kilns. Its users should only be the royal family, otherwise ordinary people How can people afford such porcelain?"
After hearing Chu Chen's explanation, Mr. Xu couldn't help applauding and applauding: "Good! There are reasons and evidences. I can't believe that after seeing this plum vase, they can still swear that the Cizhou Kiln in the Northern Song Dynasty must have no The official kiln exists!"
Chu Chen heard the words and said: "Old Yu, although I also think that this kind of plum vase should be made by the official kiln, but I can't prove it just by opening my mouth!"
Mr. Xu waved his hand: "Evidence, we will definitely discover it in the future. We should make bold assumptions and verify it carefully. It's not like the stubborn old ones who say that there is no key evidence, so we must do something. They are so Do it, it's a one-size-fits-all approach!"
Seeing Mr. Xu's broken thoughts, Chu Chen thought it was funny and couldn't say anything more. After all, this was a battle between the seniors, so what's the point of him intervening?
925 and 926 are the chapters owed by the 24th!
(End of this chapter)
In other words, Xiao Ma has long wanted to sell this plum vase to improve his living environment, but it is difficult to find a good buyer, either because he thinks it is too expensive, or because he wants something like this, so he has been procrastinating until now.Now that he finally has a big customer like Chu Chen, even if he gives up some benefits, he will agree.
Xiao Ma smiled and said to Chu Chen: "Mr. Chu, it is true that this auction does not have such a price, but that is because there is no such high-quality goods in the auction. Of course, if you really want it, I can also give you a cheaper price." Some……"
Next, the two bargained and finally set the price at 360 million, and everyone was happy for a while.
In addition to being happy, Xiao Ma also gave a discounted price for the few items that he took out earlier. The four items only cost [-] in total, which is equivalent to a [-]% discount on Chu Chen's estimated price.
After the transaction was completed, Xiao Ma originally wanted to invite Chu Chen and the others to have lunch, but Chu Chen saw that it was not until 10:30, and there was still time to go back to the hotel for dinner, so he politely refused.Afterwards, they returned to the hotel in a commercial vehicle called by Xiao Ma.
After getting out of the car, Chu Chen hugged the plum bottle, walked towards the hotel, and said to Zuo Shan, "I have already contacted Zuo Shan about the transportation, and I will be here in about an hour. You just follow them when the time comes."
Zuo Shan nodded solemnly when he heard the words: "Young Master Chu, don't worry! I will definitely send this bottle back to Beijing safely!"
Chu Chen chuckled: "I have nothing to worry about when you're doing something... Hey! Mr. Xu, what's the matter with you in such a hurry?"
As soon as the words were said, the three met Mr. Xu who had just finished eating and looked a little hurried.
"It's not Xiao Chu, you are going back, I have to hurry up and study those manuscripts!"
Mr. Xu laughed, and then he noticed the plum vase in Chu Chen's hand, and he was taken aback for a moment. After a while, he asked in shock: "Xiao Chu, your plum vase seems to be Something from the Cizhou Kiln in the Northern Song Dynasty?"
Chu Chen nodded with a smile: "Yes, it was indeed made by Cizhou Kiln in the Northern Song Dynasty."
Mr. Xu opened his mouth when he heard the words, then looked at the plum vase carefully, and then said: "This...Xiao Chu, you really have no luck, you have to take all the good things out of your hands Now, this plum vase can't be picked up again by you, right?"
Chu Chen smiled and shook his head: "How can you miss something that opens the door?"
"That's right!" Mr. Xu laughed, knowing that he was wrong. If Chu Chen could miss such a thing, then he didn't know what to say.
Mr. Xu went on to say, "However, as long as the price is not too outrageous, I think it's still worth it. Moreover, I think the information reflected in this plum vase is very unusual!"
"Yes! I think so too!"
Speaking of this plum vase, Chu Chen immediately forgot about his hunger, and said excitedly: "Mr. Xu, this is not a place to talk, let's discuss it in my room!"
"Row……"
After saying that, Chu Chen took everyone back to his room, but when Wu Ke walked to the door, he said to Zuo Shan: "Brother Zuo, go to eat first, just help us get some food later." .”
"OK……"
When Chu Chen returned to the room, he carefully placed the plum vase on the table, and asked Mr. Xu to appreciate it first.
After more than ten minutes, Mr. Xu let out a long breath and praised: "Good thing! It's really good thing! It's the first time I've seen a Cizhou kiln plum vase of the Northern Song Dynasty with such exquisite workmanship and such a huge size. What's even more rare is that it still uses the technique of picking flowers with white ground and black glaze."
The technique of picking flowers with black glaze on white ground was very difficult for the craft level at that time.
It first needs to apply white makeup soil on the carcass, and then black makeup soil. On the semi-dried makeup soil, quickly carve out the black makeup soil other than peony flowers and leaves to reveal the white base, and then draw peony petals. Leaf stems, curly grass, lotus petals and other patterns, and then apply transparent glaze after drying, which shows the difficulty of its craftsmanship.
This technique mostly appeared on Cizhou kilns from the [-]th to [-]th centuries, and later exerted a wide influence on neighboring porcelain kilns.
"Yes, I have never seen such porcelain from the Northern Song Dynasty Porcelain Kiln in any museum or magazine before." Chu Chen also seemed quite excited.
"So, you kid is lucky!"
Elder Xu sighed enviously again, and then asked with a smile: "By the way, since you said just now that this plum vase is unusual, can you tell me what is unusual about it?"
Chu Chen smiled slightly and said, "Old Xu, what I said is unusual is just speculation, but it can't be taken seriously."
Old Xu smiled and said, "It's okay, you can just say it straight, as long as you don't make random guesses!"
"Okay, then I will talk about my opinion, and please help me to correct if I am wrong!"
Chu Chen clasped his fists to Mr. Xu, and then expressed his thoughts: "I think the kiln mouth where this plum vase is made should be the official kiln in Cizhou Kiln..."
Speaking of this, Wu Ke who was standing next to him interrupted: "Achen, isn't it right? Isn't the Cizhou kiln a folk kiln? Why is there an official kiln? And if it was an official kiln, why is there no such thing in the literature at that time?" record?"
"That's why I said it was a guess!" Chu Chen spread his hands and said with a smile, "However, there is a basis for my guess."
"What basis?" Elder Xu asked.
Chu Chen explained with a smile: "The earliest record of Cizhou kiln in history is Cao Zhao's "Ge Gu Yao Lun" in Hongwu period of Ming Dynasty, but Cao Zhao did not say when Cizhou kiln was opened. Until the Qing Dynasty In the literature, the Cizhou Kiln was only mentioned in the Northern Song Dynasty, but whether it was a folk kiln or an official kiln was not mentioned."
"However, in the documents of the Ming Dynasty, it is recorded that there were more than forty official kilns in Cizhou Kiln, and the magnetic altar was built in Guanglu Temple every year." According to records, there are more than 1 royal vases and altars in annual tribute."
"Here, I would like to explain that the 'Guanglu Temple' in the article refers to Guanglu Siqing or Guangluqing. This official position was in charge of the royal family's wine, rituals and delicacies in the Ming Dynasty. It did not exist in the Song Dynasty, but although the Song Dynasty did not have this position , the royal family always wants to drink."
"You know, Bianjing in the Northern Song Dynasty was full of feasting and feasting. The royal family needed a lot of wine, wine bottles and altars every day and night banquets. During festivals, birthdays, and birthday celebrations, the royal family and nobles would also give wine to each other. According to literature records, the royal family is expensive There are as many as [-] bottles of wine given to Zhouyu festivals at a time. It can be seen that the royal family used wine in the Northern Song Dynasty.
"Then, here comes the question, which porcelain kiln produced the wine bottles and jars used for so many wines? I think there must have been a royal porcelain factory that produced high-end wine bottles and wine jars at that time."
Hearing this, Wu Ke asked: "Ah Chen, do you mean that the Cizhou kiln in the Northern Song Dynasty is also like the Cizhou kiln in the Ming Dynasty, and a part of the kiln mouth is specially used to make wine vessels for the royal family? "
"This point, because there is no written record, so it is not easy to be sure, but I speculate that some of the mouths of the Cizhou kiln at that time were official kilns. It is still very possible."
Chu Chen explained: "As we all know, there are five famous kilns in the official kilns of the Northern Song Dynasty. Most of the five famous kiln wares are set-up utensils and study utensils. There are very few bottles and altars, and there are even fewer large-scale vases and altars. Besides. For the five famous kilns in the Northern Song Dynasty, there is no record in the history of the Song Dynasty. The earliest record is the "Xuande Ding Yi Pu" in the Xuande period of the Ming Dynasty. Then, it is not enough that there are no documents in the Northern Song Dynasty for the imperial wine bottles and altars. Strange..."
Next, Chu Chen explained why he thought part of the Cizhou Kiln in the Northern Song Dynasty was an official kiln, and Xu Lao and Wu Ke nodded repeatedly.
At the end, Chu Chen sighed and said: "Unfortunately, the Northern Song Dynasty was too short, and because of the war, some materials at that time were also destroyed, otherwise we might be able to find the Cizhou kiln. There were also official kilns in the Northern Song Dynasty. evidence of."
Mr. Xu smiled slightly and said: "History is full of uncertain factors. It is precisely because of this that our research on cultural relics is fun. To put it bluntly, if everything is documented, then why do we bother with it?" Spend a lot of effort on research?"
Chu Chen smiled and nodded, "That's right!"
At this time, Wu Ke asked curiously: "Achen, since it is your speculation that the Cizhou Kiln had an official kiln in the Northern Song Dynasty, how could you think that this plum vase would be the work of an official Cizhou Kiln?"
"First of all, you need to know what is the white ground black glaze picking technique..."
Chu Chen first introduced this technique, and then explained: "The difficulty of this kind of craftsmanship lies in the fact that firstly there must be a fixed pattern, and then the combination of picking, engraving, and scratching techniques. This requires the craftsman to have extremely skilled skills. , Painting on the semi-dry makeup soil is like flying with a knife, and the knife is like a brush, and the carving is as free and rigorous as painting on rice paper. It is done in one go. Then it is necessary to use a large sagger to bottle pottery."
"In the Northern Song Dynasty almost a thousand years ago, craftsmen were able to create such a domineering and regular magnum. The difficulty and production cost were definitely beyond the reach of folk kilns. Its users should only be the royal family, otherwise ordinary people How can people afford such porcelain?"
After hearing Chu Chen's explanation, Mr. Xu couldn't help applauding and applauding: "Good! There are reasons and evidences. I can't believe that after seeing this plum vase, they can still swear that the Cizhou Kiln in the Northern Song Dynasty must have no The official kiln exists!"
Chu Chen heard the words and said: "Old Yu, although I also think that this kind of plum vase should be made by the official kiln, but I can't prove it just by opening my mouth!"
Mr. Xu waved his hand: "Evidence, we will definitely discover it in the future. We should make bold assumptions and verify it carefully. It's not like the stubborn old ones who say that there is no key evidence, so we must do something. They are so Do it, it's a one-size-fits-all approach!"
Seeing Mr. Xu's broken thoughts, Chu Chen thought it was funny and couldn't say anything more. After all, this was a battle between the seniors, so what's the point of him intervening?
925 and 926 are the chapters owed by the 24th!
(End of this chapter)
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