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Chapter 817 The Difficulty of Contention
Chapter 817 The Difficulty of Contention ([-])
Meng Sunyang immediately expressed his attitude.
"This matter must not be allowed. The Mohists talk about the fact that everyone is a minister of the Emperor of Heaven, everyone is equal, and that they are slaves, and even slaves are private property. It is absolutely impossible!"
"Don't make such a move, if you move... Sishang..."
Don't Dongxiang Ziqi know what Meng Sunyang meant, this place is too close to Sishang, if this is really done, Sishang will never allow it, I'm afraid they will send troops again.
In these years, dreams are beautiful, but reality is cruel. Without soldiers or guns, even the best dreams are just fantasy.
Dongxiang Ziqi smiled and said: "Sir, don't be surprised. Since you asked me to say what I want most, I will say what I want most. People in the world have peasants, businessmen, scholars, bureaucrats, and princes. Each has its own interests, and their interests are different. I Since I want to be slaves to my servants, those slaves still want everyone to be equal, since I can't beat them, then I have to admit equality."
"I'm just talking about what I want. It's really hard for me to wait for these squires, especially because they are too close to each other."
"Like other places, there is no need to talk about fiefdoms, and there is no need to talk about slaves. Even if there are servants, they are poor and irresistible people."
"It's like this, but it's different. Three meals a day will cost a lot of money and food for two meals a day. Two meals a day won't kill you. For hundreds of years, common people have eaten two meals a day. Yes, I don’t see them dying. But now, they have to eat three meals a day, otherwise they will flee to Sishang; the money for farming every month will not be less.”
"I thought, if there is a slave private property system, it must be in my best interest. If there are fewer people and more land, if there is no slave private property system, I will suffer and lose."
"Everyone seeks profit. If you think about it this way, I'm afraid there is nothing wrong with it."
Zi Huazi immediately said after hearing the words: "This statement is wrong. If you talk about seeking profit, if you have six desires, you can satisfy them but not indulge them. You have to weigh the pros and cons and what is the most important."
"As soon as I, Yang Zi, learns, you will be reborn. The so-called money is all external things, which can be used to fill the abyss of six desires, but those with six desires need or can enjoy it. If you do this, I am afraid that soldiers will be sent to shoot you, and your life will be gone by then. , what are the pros and cons?"
Dongxiang Ziqi still smiled and said: "If there is no external force, this is really my greatest advantage. Since Mr. Yang Zi is beautiful and ugly, and the second concubine is a virtuous person, I will say what I want most. It can't be done, but it can't be said that this is not what I most hope for."
"I'm not saying that I hope to turn all the servants in my farm into slaves, but... If I buy slaves myself, can I protect my private property?"
"In the past, Zigong was reprimanded by Zhongni for not being thanked for redeeming people. There are quite a few slaves in this world. Now it is not worthwhile to use servants to farm. I am going to buy some slaves."
At this time, there are still many slaves in the world. Under the old well field system, many scholars also had their own family slaves. Before the wars of various countries, many captured people were treated as slaves. Nowadays, the times are considered to be progressing, and slaves are regarded as slaves in various countries Private property is also regarded as a person. Although it belongs to the owner, it cannot be killed casually.
Dongxiang Ziqi wanted to inquire about future policies in order to change his business model. The main reason was that if slaves were counted as private property and protected by law, then he could safely and boldly buy some slaves from other places.
Nowadays, the places near Sishang are very short of people, very short of cheap people.
The development of industry and commerce in Sishang is rushing, and the development of South China Sea in Huaibei is rushing. Many self-cultivating farmers who can maintain their own lives are destined to not have cheap manpower.
Fleeing, leaving, rushing into the city of Sishang... These are all problems that the old aristocrats who have changed their status and managed the land in the past few years have to face.
Dongxiang Ziqi opposed the system of feudalism and the restoration of etiquette, because if it was true that Confucianism restored Zhouli, she would be a small scholar with only one well of land, and then she would not be able to buy land.
It is precisely because of the effective anti-feudal patriarchal system near Sishang that he has the opportunity to annex the land and become a land manager with [-] mu of land. The emerging "Sufengzhijun" at the top level.
However, when his land reached [-] mu, as the times continued to move forward, as the changes in Sishang deepened and sprouted, he began to miss the patriarchal system.
If there is still a patriarchal system, then the people on the land are attached to him, and they cannot flee at will, and they will be arrested or sentenced if they escape. How can they be better to those servants from time to time like now, if not They are leaving.
People like him oppose the patriarchal system and the reason is only because they are low-ranking nobles under the patriarchal system. What they object to is that they are not the patriarchal system.
Now that they have benefited, but faced with the disintegration of the patriarchal system and the gradual disintegration of personal attachments, they thought about retreating.
Sishang allowed migration, but the patriarchal system did not allow migration. This is a big difference. When Dongxiang Ziqi overcame the shackles of low-ranking nobles like him who opposed the patriarchal system at the beginning, he began to move toward the reaction.
This time, Song State's policy is about to undergo a great change. Dongxiang Ziqi and Hope find out whether slaves and maidservants are considered private property and whether they are recognized by the law. This is very important.
Although Meng Sunyang often debated with the Mohists, and sometimes choked up some Mohists when he talked about the truth, he still lacked experience in governing.
Under the premise of following the steps and keeping the system unchanged, many people can actually be a sage and famous person to assist a country.
But if we change the law, reform the system, and take care of all aspects, and can make a place and a country healthy and prosperous, it can be called unparalleled in the world, such as Wu Qi and Shang Yang in later generations, and Li Kui in the past, all of them are of this generation.
Faced with Dongxiang Ziqi's question, Meng Sunyang thought for a long time and said: "This matter should not be done. Although a hundred families conduct their own affairs, and each township governs each township, there must be a constitution after all. Although the laws and decrees of each township can be It is convenient for everyone to adapt to local conditions, but it must not violate the Constitution."
"It is absolutely impossible for slaves and maids to be private property. Even if the Mohists do not intervene, with the system of the future Song Dynasty, a hundred schools of thought will argue about politics and vote right and wrong. There will be many people from the peasant family alone, and they must oppose slaves and maidservants as private property."
"Furthermore, the Mo family's theory that everyone is equal and that everyone is a minister of the Emperor of Heaven has been spread throughout the world. Once this step is taken, it will be difficult to turn back."
Dongxiang Ziqi sighed and said: "But we are also in a difficult situation. Sishang competes with us for advantages. If we want to select sages in the future, we must select those who can benefit us as the sages of the village."
"You know that you used to work as a servant with me, and you only need some copper coins every year for two meals a day. How much does it cost for one person now?"
"Since you said that the Song Dynasty will implement the government of selecting wise men, let me ask you, do those who have no land, no real estate, and servants who work with others also have the right to elect?"
"This is a big deal, you have to think about it."
Zhan He, who had never spoken all this time, sneered when he heard the words, glanced at Dongxiang Ziqi, and said with a smile: "Ziqi's words are not ignorant of the world's trends, but they are really rural words."
"The policy of the Song Dynasty depends on the Mohists. If it is not in line with justice, the Mohists will come to Shangqiu again in the name of punishing injustice. What can you do?"
"Then do you think that the Mohist school insists that everyone is equal all day long, and chooses worthy people to be emperors and princes. Do these people without property have the right to choose others?"
"It's useless for you to reason with us here. If you can annihilate the [-] volunteers in Sishang, don't say that slaves and maidservants are private property, even if you return to the patriarchal clan, prohibit fleeing, and protect your land, what's the difficulty? "
"Besides, there are many landless people in the Song Dynasty today, and tomorrow's land reform, everyone has land and property. How can it be said that there are no landless people?"
Dongxiang Ziqi felt cold, and was about to ask again, Zhan He said again: "As the saying goes, govern by doing nothing, and the world will be transformed by itself. Here, the policy is basically the same as before. There was also a co-cultivation society in Sishang before. There is no such thing in your manor. Or is there someone left to work with you?"
"You can't benefit, but you have to give more money to prevent them from leaving. It's nothing more than getting less profit. This is greed. Over time, it will definitely hurt your health, and you will not be able to maintain your health."
"Listen to my advice, enough is enough, don't be greedy."
Dongxiang Ziqi thought, what you are talking about is nonsense, but you seem to let everyone know the difference between enjoying the six desires and indulging them, so that everyone in the world knows how to be true to life, how difficult is it?If everyone is a gentleman, the words of Confucianism are not wrong, but it is easy to govern the government, but difficult to govern the people.
He also heard a hint of admonition, but after all, he kept the words in his heart and did not say them, and turned to ask more realistic questions.
"I heard that the confiscated fiefdoms of the fugitive nobles will be taken back and granted to the people. Then, can the land be divided among the servants in my manor?"
"Even if the land can be divided, how will they be able to cultivate their own land if they have no cattle, horses, or farm tools?"
"You have money and iron on your side, so you can support the people in the village. Why do you use the money to buy farm tools and distribute them to the people?"
"Besides, if you do this, how can it be regarded as a cure by doing nothing?"
Just as Meng Sunyang was about to refute, Dongxiang Ziqi asked again: "If you are in power and want to support farmers with iron and cattle, where will the money come from? It must be collected from us."
"Since you say that if you don't pluck a hair to benefit the world, the world will be ruled. Let me ask you, if you pluck the hair from my body to benefit the poor and lowly, is this a violation of your morality?"
Meng Sunyang was silent, and Zi Huazi said: "It is not necessary to use your money, we can borrow money from the Mohist family, and the farmers will repay it later..."
Dongxiang Ziqi laughed and said: "So, you are just the concubines of the Mohist family. It's a pity that Yang Ziyi fought with the Mohist family, but he didn't want Yang Zizhi to become the Mohist's concubine!"
"Furthermore, what is inaction? If you divide land, you can buy and sell it. I have thousands of acres of land, dozens of cattle and horses, and many iron tools. The people who divide the land have no iron, no cattle, no horses, and no money. After ten years, the land will belong to me. This person must be my servant, this is inaction, this is self-transformation in accordance with the way of heaven."
"Another example is the co-cultivation society of the Mohists. Anyone who flees to Sishang can join the co-op. If there is no co-cultivation society, people who have no land in the Song Dynasty will be more willing to come to my village to farm. But they do so, so many people go to the other side. There is a way to survive, so that the cost of hiring people is increasing day by day, how can this be regarded as governance by doing nothing?"
"Moreover, in the end, is collecting taxes considered plucking other people's hairs to benefit the world? For example, collecting taxes is used to dig canals, so that everyone can benefit, so the person who pays the tax is not in line with your morality? Everyone If you don't pluck a hair and everyone benefits the world, then the world will rule. If you are in power, will this tax be paid or not?"
(End of this chapter)
Meng Sunyang immediately expressed his attitude.
"This matter must not be allowed. The Mohists talk about the fact that everyone is a minister of the Emperor of Heaven, everyone is equal, and that they are slaves, and even slaves are private property. It is absolutely impossible!"
"Don't make such a move, if you move... Sishang..."
Don't Dongxiang Ziqi know what Meng Sunyang meant, this place is too close to Sishang, if this is really done, Sishang will never allow it, I'm afraid they will send troops again.
In these years, dreams are beautiful, but reality is cruel. Without soldiers or guns, even the best dreams are just fantasy.
Dongxiang Ziqi smiled and said: "Sir, don't be surprised. Since you asked me to say what I want most, I will say what I want most. People in the world have peasants, businessmen, scholars, bureaucrats, and princes. Each has its own interests, and their interests are different. I Since I want to be slaves to my servants, those slaves still want everyone to be equal, since I can't beat them, then I have to admit equality."
"I'm just talking about what I want. It's really hard for me to wait for these squires, especially because they are too close to each other."
"Like other places, there is no need to talk about fiefdoms, and there is no need to talk about slaves. Even if there are servants, they are poor and irresistible people."
"It's like this, but it's different. Three meals a day will cost a lot of money and food for two meals a day. Two meals a day won't kill you. For hundreds of years, common people have eaten two meals a day. Yes, I don’t see them dying. But now, they have to eat three meals a day, otherwise they will flee to Sishang; the money for farming every month will not be less.”
"I thought, if there is a slave private property system, it must be in my best interest. If there are fewer people and more land, if there is no slave private property system, I will suffer and lose."
"Everyone seeks profit. If you think about it this way, I'm afraid there is nothing wrong with it."
Zi Huazi immediately said after hearing the words: "This statement is wrong. If you talk about seeking profit, if you have six desires, you can satisfy them but not indulge them. You have to weigh the pros and cons and what is the most important."
"As soon as I, Yang Zi, learns, you will be reborn. The so-called money is all external things, which can be used to fill the abyss of six desires, but those with six desires need or can enjoy it. If you do this, I am afraid that soldiers will be sent to shoot you, and your life will be gone by then. , what are the pros and cons?"
Dongxiang Ziqi still smiled and said: "If there is no external force, this is really my greatest advantage. Since Mr. Yang Zi is beautiful and ugly, and the second concubine is a virtuous person, I will say what I want most. It can't be done, but it can't be said that this is not what I most hope for."
"I'm not saying that I hope to turn all the servants in my farm into slaves, but... If I buy slaves myself, can I protect my private property?"
"In the past, Zigong was reprimanded by Zhongni for not being thanked for redeeming people. There are quite a few slaves in this world. Now it is not worthwhile to use servants to farm. I am going to buy some slaves."
At this time, there are still many slaves in the world. Under the old well field system, many scholars also had their own family slaves. Before the wars of various countries, many captured people were treated as slaves. Nowadays, the times are considered to be progressing, and slaves are regarded as slaves in various countries Private property is also regarded as a person. Although it belongs to the owner, it cannot be killed casually.
Dongxiang Ziqi wanted to inquire about future policies in order to change his business model. The main reason was that if slaves were counted as private property and protected by law, then he could safely and boldly buy some slaves from other places.
Nowadays, the places near Sishang are very short of people, very short of cheap people.
The development of industry and commerce in Sishang is rushing, and the development of South China Sea in Huaibei is rushing. Many self-cultivating farmers who can maintain their own lives are destined to not have cheap manpower.
Fleeing, leaving, rushing into the city of Sishang... These are all problems that the old aristocrats who have changed their status and managed the land in the past few years have to face.
Dongxiang Ziqi opposed the system of feudalism and the restoration of etiquette, because if it was true that Confucianism restored Zhouli, she would be a small scholar with only one well of land, and then she would not be able to buy land.
It is precisely because of the effective anti-feudal patriarchal system near Sishang that he has the opportunity to annex the land and become a land manager with [-] mu of land. The emerging "Sufengzhijun" at the top level.
However, when his land reached [-] mu, as the times continued to move forward, as the changes in Sishang deepened and sprouted, he began to miss the patriarchal system.
If there is still a patriarchal system, then the people on the land are attached to him, and they cannot flee at will, and they will be arrested or sentenced if they escape. How can they be better to those servants from time to time like now, if not They are leaving.
People like him oppose the patriarchal system and the reason is only because they are low-ranking nobles under the patriarchal system. What they object to is that they are not the patriarchal system.
Now that they have benefited, but faced with the disintegration of the patriarchal system and the gradual disintegration of personal attachments, they thought about retreating.
Sishang allowed migration, but the patriarchal system did not allow migration. This is a big difference. When Dongxiang Ziqi overcame the shackles of low-ranking nobles like him who opposed the patriarchal system at the beginning, he began to move toward the reaction.
This time, Song State's policy is about to undergo a great change. Dongxiang Ziqi and Hope find out whether slaves and maidservants are considered private property and whether they are recognized by the law. This is very important.
Although Meng Sunyang often debated with the Mohists, and sometimes choked up some Mohists when he talked about the truth, he still lacked experience in governing.
Under the premise of following the steps and keeping the system unchanged, many people can actually be a sage and famous person to assist a country.
But if we change the law, reform the system, and take care of all aspects, and can make a place and a country healthy and prosperous, it can be called unparalleled in the world, such as Wu Qi and Shang Yang in later generations, and Li Kui in the past, all of them are of this generation.
Faced with Dongxiang Ziqi's question, Meng Sunyang thought for a long time and said: "This matter should not be done. Although a hundred families conduct their own affairs, and each township governs each township, there must be a constitution after all. Although the laws and decrees of each township can be It is convenient for everyone to adapt to local conditions, but it must not violate the Constitution."
"It is absolutely impossible for slaves and maids to be private property. Even if the Mohists do not intervene, with the system of the future Song Dynasty, a hundred schools of thought will argue about politics and vote right and wrong. There will be many people from the peasant family alone, and they must oppose slaves and maidservants as private property."
"Furthermore, the Mo family's theory that everyone is equal and that everyone is a minister of the Emperor of Heaven has been spread throughout the world. Once this step is taken, it will be difficult to turn back."
Dongxiang Ziqi sighed and said: "But we are also in a difficult situation. Sishang competes with us for advantages. If we want to select sages in the future, we must select those who can benefit us as the sages of the village."
"You know that you used to work as a servant with me, and you only need some copper coins every year for two meals a day. How much does it cost for one person now?"
"Since you said that the Song Dynasty will implement the government of selecting wise men, let me ask you, do those who have no land, no real estate, and servants who work with others also have the right to elect?"
"This is a big deal, you have to think about it."
Zhan He, who had never spoken all this time, sneered when he heard the words, glanced at Dongxiang Ziqi, and said with a smile: "Ziqi's words are not ignorant of the world's trends, but they are really rural words."
"The policy of the Song Dynasty depends on the Mohists. If it is not in line with justice, the Mohists will come to Shangqiu again in the name of punishing injustice. What can you do?"
"Then do you think that the Mohist school insists that everyone is equal all day long, and chooses worthy people to be emperors and princes. Do these people without property have the right to choose others?"
"It's useless for you to reason with us here. If you can annihilate the [-] volunteers in Sishang, don't say that slaves and maidservants are private property, even if you return to the patriarchal clan, prohibit fleeing, and protect your land, what's the difficulty? "
"Besides, there are many landless people in the Song Dynasty today, and tomorrow's land reform, everyone has land and property. How can it be said that there are no landless people?"
Dongxiang Ziqi felt cold, and was about to ask again, Zhan He said again: "As the saying goes, govern by doing nothing, and the world will be transformed by itself. Here, the policy is basically the same as before. There was also a co-cultivation society in Sishang before. There is no such thing in your manor. Or is there someone left to work with you?"
"You can't benefit, but you have to give more money to prevent them from leaving. It's nothing more than getting less profit. This is greed. Over time, it will definitely hurt your health, and you will not be able to maintain your health."
"Listen to my advice, enough is enough, don't be greedy."
Dongxiang Ziqi thought, what you are talking about is nonsense, but you seem to let everyone know the difference between enjoying the six desires and indulging them, so that everyone in the world knows how to be true to life, how difficult is it?If everyone is a gentleman, the words of Confucianism are not wrong, but it is easy to govern the government, but difficult to govern the people.
He also heard a hint of admonition, but after all, he kept the words in his heart and did not say them, and turned to ask more realistic questions.
"I heard that the confiscated fiefdoms of the fugitive nobles will be taken back and granted to the people. Then, can the land be divided among the servants in my manor?"
"Even if the land can be divided, how will they be able to cultivate their own land if they have no cattle, horses, or farm tools?"
"You have money and iron on your side, so you can support the people in the village. Why do you use the money to buy farm tools and distribute them to the people?"
"Besides, if you do this, how can it be regarded as a cure by doing nothing?"
Just as Meng Sunyang was about to refute, Dongxiang Ziqi asked again: "If you are in power and want to support farmers with iron and cattle, where will the money come from? It must be collected from us."
"Since you say that if you don't pluck a hair to benefit the world, the world will be ruled. Let me ask you, if you pluck the hair from my body to benefit the poor and lowly, is this a violation of your morality?"
Meng Sunyang was silent, and Zi Huazi said: "It is not necessary to use your money, we can borrow money from the Mohist family, and the farmers will repay it later..."
Dongxiang Ziqi laughed and said: "So, you are just the concubines of the Mohist family. It's a pity that Yang Ziyi fought with the Mohist family, but he didn't want Yang Zizhi to become the Mohist's concubine!"
"Furthermore, what is inaction? If you divide land, you can buy and sell it. I have thousands of acres of land, dozens of cattle and horses, and many iron tools. The people who divide the land have no iron, no cattle, no horses, and no money. After ten years, the land will belong to me. This person must be my servant, this is inaction, this is self-transformation in accordance with the way of heaven."
"Another example is the co-cultivation society of the Mohists. Anyone who flees to Sishang can join the co-op. If there is no co-cultivation society, people who have no land in the Song Dynasty will be more willing to come to my village to farm. But they do so, so many people go to the other side. There is a way to survive, so that the cost of hiring people is increasing day by day, how can this be regarded as governance by doing nothing?"
"Moreover, in the end, is collecting taxes considered plucking other people's hairs to benefit the world? For example, collecting taxes is used to dig canals, so that everyone can benefit, so the person who pays the tax is not in line with your morality? Everyone If you don't pluck a hair and everyone benefits the world, then the world will rule. If you are in power, will this tax be paid or not?"
(End of this chapter)
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