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Chapter 837 Party A and Party B
Chapter 837 Party A and Party B
The keynote set by the Mohists is to cooperate with the princes and nobles of Zheng State, rather than directly overthrow them.
Because the timing is not ripe, doing so will only consume strength, and it is easy to be strangled by the nobles of Wei, Chu, Han and Zheng.
What's more, knowing that failure is inevitable, you still have to do it, that is to transfer disasters, and defend Sishang with armed forces, so that Wei Hanzheng will consume energy here. This is not necessary for Sishang, which has a great advantage and at least does not need to worry about defense. .
Once united front, you have to compromise, you have to make concessions, and the result of the concessions is that the people of Zheng State are singing love songs such as "Wei Qin" and "Rooster Crowing" on the city wall, waiting for Wei and Han to break the city - completely unaware Why fight.
For the sake of the ancestral temple?The offerings in the ancestral temple are not my own ancestors, but Zheng Jun's family. What does Zheng's ancestral temple have to do with the common people?
For national justice?Not to mention whether there is such a thing now, Zheng Hanwei uses the same language, the same habits, and the same customs. This is a battle between nobles, where is the national justice?
In the end, they couldn't even do anything for their own interests, so Zheng people certainly didn't want to fight.
Once the Mohist's propaganda is tied, its power will be far worse than that of Sishang. If you can say what you should say, but don't let it be said, how can it mobilize the people?
Several Mohists complained and couldn't help cursing a few words. Several people complained: "You can't involve the fundamental interests of the people, but you want the people to fight to the death. I think the princes and nobles of Zheng State should hire another wise man." , Even if the giant himself comes, he can’t do it.”
The leader Mohist said in relief: "That's not what I said. We know the demands of the people, but we have to let the people know that their demands can be met through various methods."
"Whether Xinzheng can keep it or not is a trivial matter. The important thing is to let the people know that they have the strength to demand something."
Xu Ruo snorted and said, "Giving money to demolish a house is not the interest of the people. You and I know what the people want, but if the people really want it, will the princes and nobles give it?"
"It is said that we mobilized everything in the city and gave us a talisman, but is this talisman the same as the one in Zimozi's hand?"
"The Huangfu in the hands of Zimozi back then was able to directly hold the families of noble children as hostages so that they would not flee. What do we have?"
"Zheng Jun is a fart. The Si family will not delegate power to us at all. The people are not only interested in Zheng Jungong's family. Those land loans and land closures are related to all the nobles in the city and the merchants who depend on them."
"There is no stake, and we can't touch the stake. It's useless."
The Mohist who was in charge of propaganda also sighed: "Yes, yes, the people just asked me why defending the city is beneficial to him? How should I answer?"
"If Shoucheng dies in battle, will the Si family reduce his tax interest? He has worked hard to defend the city, and guarded the home for the Si family. What will the nobles give them?"
Speaking of this, the person in charge of publicity took off the fur hat on his head and threw it on the ground fiercely: "There has never been such a problem in Sishang and Huaibei! Even if someone asks, we can solve it."
"What about now? How do we solve it? If we can't solve it, how can I tell the public?"
"In the past few years, we have declared righteousness in the market, and more and more people know the truth. It is understandable for people to ask their own interests... The more difficult this matter is."
"If we can't do it well, in the eyes of the people of Zheng, you and I are the ones who stand up for the Duke of Zheng and the nobles of the Si family. How can the people trust us?"
The leader of the Mohist pinched the talisman for guarding the city, and said with a smile: "This is what the giant said, the military is in the service of politics, and material matters determine everything. We are only given the name of guarding the city, but we are not given enough materials and resources." The power to distribute material things must be preached weakly."
"But didn't we say it before? We wanted to let the public know that what they are looking for can be obtained by various means, and it is only right and proper to obtain it."
"I think you have stayed in Sishang for a long time, and you only know what to do under Sishang's rules, but you are at a loss when you get outside. This is not okay."
"Back then Zimozi guarded Shangqiu, how did he use the contradictions to benefit the people? Back then when Shizi guarded Luyang, how did he make the people willing to fight?"
"Your brains have adapted to the rules of Sishang, it's time to learn how to adapt. If the world is all about the rules of Sishang, then what do you want us who dare to die for the world without hesitation?"
Those who complained in a few words were speechless, Xu Ruo said: "Then we can't make empty promises. When the time comes, we will really defend the city, and the princes and nobles will not keep it. Not only will the princes and nobles break their promises, We want to do the same."
The leader of the Mohist pretended to be surprised and said: "Do you control the power? Does the land belong to you? Are you Zheng Jun and the patriarch of the Si clan? Neither, why do you promise? Isn't that what the giant said? Painting cakes to satisfy hunger? "
"It's like giving money for demolishing a house. This is not an empty promise, is it? It is the real gold and copper coins we asked for from Zheng Jun, and this is what we give to the people."
"You have to think about one thing clearly: defending the city is for non-offensive, non-offensive is for the benefit of the world, but the ultimate goal is to benefit the world. If the city cannot be defended, it is very important to the nobles of Zheng Wanggong, and it is important to our Mo family ?"
"It's not important! What's important is to use this opportunity to let the people organize, let the people know what to do in the future, and let the people know that what they want can be obtained by various means."
"The purpose of demolishing houses with the main certificate is just the function of moving wood and establishing faith as said by a giant. It's just that this letter is not used to defend the city, but to let the people know how to fight for their own interests and understand the power they have. .”
After dissecting the complex problem and directly grasping the purpose, means and essence of the problem, those Mohists who were still complaining just now suddenly understood.
They mistakenly think that defending the city is the goal, but they ignore that defending the city is only a part of benefiting the world, and it is only a means.
From the beginning to the end, the Mohists did not recognize the legitimacy of the rule of the princes and nobles, and only cooperated with the princes and nobles of Zheng because of the temporary need to defend the city.
The purpose of the princes and nobles is not the purpose of the Mohist school, but at this stage their purpose and the means that the Mohist school wants to use are interlinked.
Xu Ruo was the first to react, and asked with some hesitation: "You mean... we can't make a promise, because we don't have a material foundation here, and the land, wealth and political power are not ours."
"However, can we let the people know what kind of promise they want the princes and nobles to give? We are not here as pioneers, but just brokers and middlemen?"
The leader Mohist nodded and shook his head with a smile: "It's not that I don't want to be a four-horse pioneer, but I'm both a four-horse pioneer and a broker."
"What do the people want? The people know, but can you expect the people to sort out negotiable content in a short period of time?"
"No."
"So, we have to sort out what the people want first, form an entry, and then ask the people if this is what they want. Then we will take these things to Zheng Junsi and tell them that this is what the people want. When the besieged city Zheng Junsi urgently needs the power of the people, let the people know that they have power."
"If in normal times, the people want to have a little bit of power, Zheng Junsi will definitely be vigilant and suppress it first."
"But it's different now. They need the people to have the strength to defend the city."
"It's thanks to the giant who inherited the gunpowder used by Dayu to control the mountains and floods. If the city walls were not so tall, they would have been able to hold on for a month or two without borrowing the power of the people, but now they can't!"
There were several cannon shots outside the speaking room, dull as if admiring what the Mohist said just now.
A Mohist who had been active in the Xinzheng market for a long time heard the words: "It's not difficult to say so. We have organizations in the big cities and giant cities. Market activities, mill craftsmen's associations, and even iron shops are all regular activities. A place. What the people want is usually asked during gatherings and storytelling, but..."
Xu Ruo wondered, "Just what?"
The man smiled awkwardly and said, "It's just...it's just that our policies on Sishang are enough to be liked by the people, so we just need to describe what should be done. But now we can't follow the policies on Sishang completely, then On the contrary, it is somewhat difficult.”
"But it's not difficult. There are some things that the people are eagerly looking forward to, and it should be easy to know."
This is indeed a problem.
Since Sishang began to rise and become stronger, and won the two battles between Moyue and Moqi, his attitude towards benefiting the world has actually been extremely firm.
On Sishang, there is no longer the idea of acknowledging the old rules and then tinkering with them. Instead, since the whole system can be turned upside down, why compromise on the premise of changing the old rules?
Humiliation and Zhuxia are still a strong civilization around them, and there will be no external threats for at least 200 years. If this is the case, there will be no external contradictions that can become the main contradictions and make the Mohists have to compromise and agree with the outside world.
If you don't compromise, you will gradually lack the desire to change and repair in the world of old rules. As the Mohist said, if the various policies on Sishang are implemented in the world, it will be excellent. It's almost good without thinking about it?
As everyone discussed in a hurry, the core of the problem became clearer. After the way of thinking has been superseded, the way these people discuss and think about problems is already very different from the old days.
Soon, after grasping the key to the problem, these people thought of a solution.
First, demolish houses and give money to achieve the effect of emigrating trees and establishing trust, and then mobilize the people to reason, but do not mention promises, and then ask the people what they want.
The people must be chaotic and wanting it in their hearts but can't make it out of their mouths. In this way, the Mohist will come forward and write a "deal" in the name entrusted by the people.
The parties involved in the transaction are the self-cultivating farmers, land-closing farmers, small handicraftsmen, small traders, down-and-out people, and small landlords in Zhengdi.
Party B of the transaction is the public family of Zheng, the nobles of the Si family, the big merchants attached to the nobles, and the big landowners transformed from the nobles.
Party A pays with blood and defends the city as payment, in exchange for Party B's transfer of part of the land, reduction of rent and interest, reduction of taxes, etc.
If no agreement can be reached, Party A will sing love songs and wait for Wei Han to break the city, and then do what they should do. By the way, they will not only reduce the military tax but also not have to repay part of the usury—now that Feigong is only a means rather than an end, then It is impossible for the Mohists to force the people of Zheng State to defend the city and become the dog legs of the princes and nobles for the sake of non-attack.
Anyway, if the city is broken, part of Party B will die, it depends on whether they are willing to exchange their wealth for their lives.
If there is an agreement, then the people will contribute to defending the city, and by the way, they have to be organized, and Party A will be the supervisor of the contract at the same time. If they can defend the city from Wei and Han today, they can also restrain the execution of the contract tomorrow.
Of course, there was such a contract in the past, the emperor divides the land and guards the land, the monarch is benevolent and righteous and loves the people, and the people are loyal to the emperor to the death.
It's just that since the monarchs and nobles pretended to fulfill the contract in the past, of course the common people pretended to guard the city.
(End of this chapter)
The keynote set by the Mohists is to cooperate with the princes and nobles of Zheng State, rather than directly overthrow them.
Because the timing is not ripe, doing so will only consume strength, and it is easy to be strangled by the nobles of Wei, Chu, Han and Zheng.
What's more, knowing that failure is inevitable, you still have to do it, that is to transfer disasters, and defend Sishang with armed forces, so that Wei Hanzheng will consume energy here. This is not necessary for Sishang, which has a great advantage and at least does not need to worry about defense. .
Once united front, you have to compromise, you have to make concessions, and the result of the concessions is that the people of Zheng State are singing love songs such as "Wei Qin" and "Rooster Crowing" on the city wall, waiting for Wei and Han to break the city - completely unaware Why fight.
For the sake of the ancestral temple?The offerings in the ancestral temple are not my own ancestors, but Zheng Jun's family. What does Zheng's ancestral temple have to do with the common people?
For national justice?Not to mention whether there is such a thing now, Zheng Hanwei uses the same language, the same habits, and the same customs. This is a battle between nobles, where is the national justice?
In the end, they couldn't even do anything for their own interests, so Zheng people certainly didn't want to fight.
Once the Mohist's propaganda is tied, its power will be far worse than that of Sishang. If you can say what you should say, but don't let it be said, how can it mobilize the people?
Several Mohists complained and couldn't help cursing a few words. Several people complained: "You can't involve the fundamental interests of the people, but you want the people to fight to the death. I think the princes and nobles of Zheng State should hire another wise man." , Even if the giant himself comes, he can’t do it.”
The leader Mohist said in relief: "That's not what I said. We know the demands of the people, but we have to let the people know that their demands can be met through various methods."
"Whether Xinzheng can keep it or not is a trivial matter. The important thing is to let the people know that they have the strength to demand something."
Xu Ruo snorted and said, "Giving money to demolish a house is not the interest of the people. You and I know what the people want, but if the people really want it, will the princes and nobles give it?"
"It is said that we mobilized everything in the city and gave us a talisman, but is this talisman the same as the one in Zimozi's hand?"
"The Huangfu in the hands of Zimozi back then was able to directly hold the families of noble children as hostages so that they would not flee. What do we have?"
"Zheng Jun is a fart. The Si family will not delegate power to us at all. The people are not only interested in Zheng Jungong's family. Those land loans and land closures are related to all the nobles in the city and the merchants who depend on them."
"There is no stake, and we can't touch the stake. It's useless."
The Mohist who was in charge of propaganda also sighed: "Yes, yes, the people just asked me why defending the city is beneficial to him? How should I answer?"
"If Shoucheng dies in battle, will the Si family reduce his tax interest? He has worked hard to defend the city, and guarded the home for the Si family. What will the nobles give them?"
Speaking of this, the person in charge of publicity took off the fur hat on his head and threw it on the ground fiercely: "There has never been such a problem in Sishang and Huaibei! Even if someone asks, we can solve it."
"What about now? How do we solve it? If we can't solve it, how can I tell the public?"
"In the past few years, we have declared righteousness in the market, and more and more people know the truth. It is understandable for people to ask their own interests... The more difficult this matter is."
"If we can't do it well, in the eyes of the people of Zheng, you and I are the ones who stand up for the Duke of Zheng and the nobles of the Si family. How can the people trust us?"
The leader of the Mohist pinched the talisman for guarding the city, and said with a smile: "This is what the giant said, the military is in the service of politics, and material matters determine everything. We are only given the name of guarding the city, but we are not given enough materials and resources." The power to distribute material things must be preached weakly."
"But didn't we say it before? We wanted to let the public know that what they are looking for can be obtained by various means, and it is only right and proper to obtain it."
"I think you have stayed in Sishang for a long time, and you only know what to do under Sishang's rules, but you are at a loss when you get outside. This is not okay."
"Back then Zimozi guarded Shangqiu, how did he use the contradictions to benefit the people? Back then when Shizi guarded Luyang, how did he make the people willing to fight?"
"Your brains have adapted to the rules of Sishang, it's time to learn how to adapt. If the world is all about the rules of Sishang, then what do you want us who dare to die for the world without hesitation?"
Those who complained in a few words were speechless, Xu Ruo said: "Then we can't make empty promises. When the time comes, we will really defend the city, and the princes and nobles will not keep it. Not only will the princes and nobles break their promises, We want to do the same."
The leader of the Mohist pretended to be surprised and said: "Do you control the power? Does the land belong to you? Are you Zheng Jun and the patriarch of the Si clan? Neither, why do you promise? Isn't that what the giant said? Painting cakes to satisfy hunger? "
"It's like giving money for demolishing a house. This is not an empty promise, is it? It is the real gold and copper coins we asked for from Zheng Jun, and this is what we give to the people."
"You have to think about one thing clearly: defending the city is for non-offensive, non-offensive is for the benefit of the world, but the ultimate goal is to benefit the world. If the city cannot be defended, it is very important to the nobles of Zheng Wanggong, and it is important to our Mo family ?"
"It's not important! What's important is to use this opportunity to let the people organize, let the people know what to do in the future, and let the people know that what they want can be obtained by various means."
"The purpose of demolishing houses with the main certificate is just the function of moving wood and establishing faith as said by a giant. It's just that this letter is not used to defend the city, but to let the people know how to fight for their own interests and understand the power they have. .”
After dissecting the complex problem and directly grasping the purpose, means and essence of the problem, those Mohists who were still complaining just now suddenly understood.
They mistakenly think that defending the city is the goal, but they ignore that defending the city is only a part of benefiting the world, and it is only a means.
From the beginning to the end, the Mohists did not recognize the legitimacy of the rule of the princes and nobles, and only cooperated with the princes and nobles of Zheng because of the temporary need to defend the city.
The purpose of the princes and nobles is not the purpose of the Mohist school, but at this stage their purpose and the means that the Mohist school wants to use are interlinked.
Xu Ruo was the first to react, and asked with some hesitation: "You mean... we can't make a promise, because we don't have a material foundation here, and the land, wealth and political power are not ours."
"However, can we let the people know what kind of promise they want the princes and nobles to give? We are not here as pioneers, but just brokers and middlemen?"
The leader Mohist nodded and shook his head with a smile: "It's not that I don't want to be a four-horse pioneer, but I'm both a four-horse pioneer and a broker."
"What do the people want? The people know, but can you expect the people to sort out negotiable content in a short period of time?"
"No."
"So, we have to sort out what the people want first, form an entry, and then ask the people if this is what they want. Then we will take these things to Zheng Junsi and tell them that this is what the people want. When the besieged city Zheng Junsi urgently needs the power of the people, let the people know that they have power."
"If in normal times, the people want to have a little bit of power, Zheng Junsi will definitely be vigilant and suppress it first."
"But it's different now. They need the people to have the strength to defend the city."
"It's thanks to the giant who inherited the gunpowder used by Dayu to control the mountains and floods. If the city walls were not so tall, they would have been able to hold on for a month or two without borrowing the power of the people, but now they can't!"
There were several cannon shots outside the speaking room, dull as if admiring what the Mohist said just now.
A Mohist who had been active in the Xinzheng market for a long time heard the words: "It's not difficult to say so. We have organizations in the big cities and giant cities. Market activities, mill craftsmen's associations, and even iron shops are all regular activities. A place. What the people want is usually asked during gatherings and storytelling, but..."
Xu Ruo wondered, "Just what?"
The man smiled awkwardly and said, "It's just...it's just that our policies on Sishang are enough to be liked by the people, so we just need to describe what should be done. But now we can't follow the policies on Sishang completely, then On the contrary, it is somewhat difficult.”
"But it's not difficult. There are some things that the people are eagerly looking forward to, and it should be easy to know."
This is indeed a problem.
Since Sishang began to rise and become stronger, and won the two battles between Moyue and Moqi, his attitude towards benefiting the world has actually been extremely firm.
On Sishang, there is no longer the idea of acknowledging the old rules and then tinkering with them. Instead, since the whole system can be turned upside down, why compromise on the premise of changing the old rules?
Humiliation and Zhuxia are still a strong civilization around them, and there will be no external threats for at least 200 years. If this is the case, there will be no external contradictions that can become the main contradictions and make the Mohists have to compromise and agree with the outside world.
If you don't compromise, you will gradually lack the desire to change and repair in the world of old rules. As the Mohist said, if the various policies on Sishang are implemented in the world, it will be excellent. It's almost good without thinking about it?
As everyone discussed in a hurry, the core of the problem became clearer. After the way of thinking has been superseded, the way these people discuss and think about problems is already very different from the old days.
Soon, after grasping the key to the problem, these people thought of a solution.
First, demolish houses and give money to achieve the effect of emigrating trees and establishing trust, and then mobilize the people to reason, but do not mention promises, and then ask the people what they want.
The people must be chaotic and wanting it in their hearts but can't make it out of their mouths. In this way, the Mohist will come forward and write a "deal" in the name entrusted by the people.
The parties involved in the transaction are the self-cultivating farmers, land-closing farmers, small handicraftsmen, small traders, down-and-out people, and small landlords in Zhengdi.
Party B of the transaction is the public family of Zheng, the nobles of the Si family, the big merchants attached to the nobles, and the big landowners transformed from the nobles.
Party A pays with blood and defends the city as payment, in exchange for Party B's transfer of part of the land, reduction of rent and interest, reduction of taxes, etc.
If no agreement can be reached, Party A will sing love songs and wait for Wei Han to break the city, and then do what they should do. By the way, they will not only reduce the military tax but also not have to repay part of the usury—now that Feigong is only a means rather than an end, then It is impossible for the Mohists to force the people of Zheng State to defend the city and become the dog legs of the princes and nobles for the sake of non-attack.
Anyway, if the city is broken, part of Party B will die, it depends on whether they are willing to exchange their wealth for their lives.
If there is an agreement, then the people will contribute to defending the city, and by the way, they have to be organized, and Party A will be the supervisor of the contract at the same time. If they can defend the city from Wei and Han today, they can also restrain the execution of the contract tomorrow.
Of course, there was such a contract in the past, the emperor divides the land and guards the land, the monarch is benevolent and righteous and loves the people, and the people are loyal to the emperor to the death.
It's just that since the monarchs and nobles pretended to fulfill the contract in the past, of course the common people pretended to guard the city.
(End of this chapter)
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