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Chapter 875 Meeting in the Pool
Chapter 875 Meeting in the Pool ([-])
Every pool.
Seeing all kinds of strange words and emotions of the people's opinions and opinions gathered from all directions, I was very happy.
A person beside him said with joy in his tone: "Juzi, it seems that the people of Wei and Han agree with our "Book of Reporting to the World"."
Shi looked at a document and asked, "What is newspaper?"
The Mohist who was in charge of intelligence work beside him said: "Reporter, answer too. In the past, the son of Cheng Wang said: "The male guard of the Marquis of the Shu State, but only one person will report the imperial edict. Empress Zhongni said, how can you repay grievances with virtue?"
"This is one of them."
"Secondly, Liu Xiahui once said that those who are able to command Zhuanxu will be rewarded by the Yu family. This reward is a sacrificial statement for the lower than the upper. Since the people are gods, the people are the upper, and we are the lower, so Call it a book to report to the world."
Among the Mohists, there are many people who are well-educated and knowledgeable, so I don't think it is different to answer this, and asked with a smile: "The report we circulated in the big city and giant city before, do you think it is the report from Liu Xiahui's words? Or is it the report?" The report of King Kang's words?"
The man also said with a smile: "I thought it meant to inform. Thinking about it later, it's not the case."
"The name of the newspaper should be the newspaper in Liu Xiahui's words, which is the meaning of the sacrificial response."
"The world is in chaos, and the people are suffering. The people are asking, what should I do? The previous retribution is a kind of sacrifice, and what should the people do in response. It's just that ordinary people sacrifice sacrifices as sacrifices, and our Mohists use reason as sacrifices."
"Today's newspaper is mostly meant to answer the people's questions about us in the past few years. Some people may say that if everyone takes a step back, there will be no war in the world. My Mohist attack first and then attack all. I am aggressive, as if the war in the world is really my Mohist. It was triggered. That’s why the giant used the name of “Newspaper” to reply to the people: Those who disrupt the world and those who harm the world are not my Mohists, but the princes and nobles.”
Putting down the document in his hand, he sighed and said, "Exactly."
"Taoism says: lose morality and then benevolence, lose benevolence and then benevolence, lose benevolence and then be righteous, and lose righteousness and then be polite. Those who are loyal and trustworthy are the first to be chaotic."
"The etiquette is the rules. The Zhou rituals are the Zhou's rules. The etiquette here is just a reference."
"For example, if others call me Juzi, I am still me, but Juzi can be Zimozi, Ziqinzi, but at this time calling Juzi refers to me."
"The same is true for rituals. The rituals at this time refer specifically to Zhou rituals and Zhou's rules. I have heard that Yin and Shang often used human sacrifices. Therefore, the rituals of Shang are the rituals of Shang, and the rituals of Shang are not the rituals of Zhou. But at this time, it is specifically meant to be borrowed.”
It's not that I'm tampering and correcting something again. Rituals are originally sacrificial ceremonies, and ancient religious ceremonies were originally one of the legal principles of the formation of the national system.
This is another topic similar to "the white horse is not me".
However, Mohism is not a vassal, but a school of thought. The top Mohists must understand Mohism's debate and contradiction dialectics. This is a major feature of Mohism that is different from the princes.
So when Shi said this, the Mohist who was in charge of intelligence work immediately understood what Shi meant.
Lose morality and then benevolence, lose benevolence and then benevolence, lose benevolence and then be righteous, lose righteousness and then benevolence.Husband Li, loyalty and trustworthiness are thin and chaotic.
Since etiquette is a rule, when it is necessary to use rules to restrain it, it proves that the rules themselves do not come from "self-transformation", but need violence to maintain them, which is not in line with the will of heaven and the way of heaven.
The Mohists talk about the will of heaven, which is the way, so they have their own views on ritual.
The Mohist's "Report to the World" is essentially a new "ritual", but this ritual is impossible to realize, because it comes from Tao, and now the world has lost morality, morality, benevolence and righteousness, so what? Might it be possible to promote new rituals without violent maintenance?
Orderly respect and inferiority are rituals, and everyone is equal is also rituals. The rituals here are rituals, not specifically Zhou rituals.It is like eating wheat at this time refers to eating flour and before that refers to eating grains.
Shi Dao: "If you lose the way, you will gain virtue. What is the way? There are thousands of ways. If you think of governing the country and the world, the way is the adaptation of productive forces and production relations. The old production relations are no longer suitable for the new productive forces, so there is no way. Only talk about virtue, and use the old morality to bind everyone. We seek the Tao and the will of heaven, so if we follow the will of heaven, we must first oppose morality, benevolence, righteousness, and propriety."
This benevolence, this righteousness, and this ceremony are not the original benevolence, the original righteousness, and the original ceremony.If the order of respect and inferiority is already a ritual, and everyone thinks this is the case, then we have to go against the ritual.Break and then stand.The same goes for everything else. "
"Zi Mozi was arguing with Zhongni's disciples about benevolence and righteousness. In fact, he couldn't find other words to replace them. He wanted to use old words to create new meanings. In the end, many people would inevitably be puzzled. Renyi and Confucianism also talk about benevolence and righteousness, but in fact benevolence and righteousness are not the same thing at all.”
Shi Yang took the paper in Yang's hand that recorded the complaints of the people in the market, and asked with a smile, "What did you see?"
That humanity said: "I saw people against benevolence, righteousness, and etiquette, and they think that anti-these things can be talked about without thinking that they are not human. They began to want to claim their own interests, and they thought that restraint Their old rites and old benevolence and righteousness are already chains."
Shi laughed and said: "Yes, so this is the best news. We have waited for 20 years and finally we have waited until now. Although it is only in the Central Plains, it is enough."
"It may be said that Yang Mo is in troubled times. In my opinion, chaos is good. The morality of nobles is that people in fiefs only work and don't resist. Once they resist, some people will talk about chaos in the world. If you don't ask for your own benefits, you are a virtuous person. I I'm really afraid that the world will not be chaotic."
The Mohists' participation in this four-party meeting, of course, has a bottom line and a purpose. This is not something that can be decided by just one person. The procedures that should be followed must be followed, and everyone who should be qualified to know should know.
The Mohist in charge of intelligence is of course qualified to know this matter, because sometimes he needs to come forward to talk with Wei Chuhan's Prime Minister Sima Lingyin and others.
"The giant thinks that once our talks collapse, and we leave the stage in anger, and leave the meeting in anger, what will the world think?"
Shi thought about it for a while and said calmly: "What do you think? The princes are unrighteous, the nobles are unkind, and the Mohists are helpless. How else can we look at it? In the past 20 years, the benevolence and righteousness of the Central Plains of Zhuxia have become our benevolence and righteousness, and are no longer the old ones. Benevolence and righteousness."
He shook the paper in his hand and said: "As soon as the printing technique of paper and grass comes out, the righteousness and public opinion of the world are in our hands. The benevolence we define is benevolence, and the righteousness we define is righteousness."
"In short, remember one sentence. If you stand on a wall, you can be strong without desire. There is nothing we want on this negotiating table, so we can be strong without desire. We can leave as soon as we say, and retreat as we say."
"Since there is no desire, we can say anything that is unrealistic. Because...we know that these things cannot be obtained by negotiating, and we don't think we can get them at all, so we can say that they are unattainable Float to the clouds."
It is just standing on a wall and being strong without desire.
What the Mohists want has already been obtained, and there is nothing the Mohists want on this negotiating table.
The affairs of the State of Song have been settled, and after the battle of Yinyang, it is useless for Wei Chu and Han Cheng not to admit the rationality of the coup in the State of Song. The Mohists have already established a firm foothold in the State of Song.
The matter of Zheng State has been decided, what the Mohists want is never the neutrality of Zheng State, nor the division of Zheng State, but just a awakening of the people and a dispute between Wei Chuhan and Wei Chuhan.
In Chengyang Linqiu, the Mohists don’t want it at all. Once the talks collapse, those who are willing to follow the Mohism can immediately be relocated and arranged to distribute land and farm tools in the Hongze Lake area that has not yet been formed.
Wei Chuhan's defense against the Mohists cannot be resolved at the negotiating table, so let them go and build cities and fortresses.
The purpose of deterring Wei Hanqi in the first battle of Chengyang has been achieved, and the essence of Wei Hanjinyu's failure in the first battle of Yinyang has been passed on to Qin.
Shi couldn't think of what else the Mohists wanted to get from this negotiation.
After all, what the Mo family has to do is to flip the table.But there must be a reason for flipping the table.
The reason why the Mo family raised the table this time is probably like a few people sitting together drinking, and the Mo family took out a bottle of highly poisonous poisonous wine and called each person two catties of poisonous wine. If you don’t drink it, you will look down on me.
Wei Chuhan didn't know how to drink, so the Mo family threw the table in anger, and everyone in the world would say: Wei Chuhan is such a bastard that he doesn't drink.
The person in charge of intelligence knows about the fact that the Mohists want to leave the venue in anger, and judging from the current situation, this alliance will undoubtedly be a dream in the mirror, even if the Mohists really have the idea of eliminating troops and peace for all countries It is also impossible.
"Juzi, the people of Qin say today that if you kill your troops, you will win Xihe. They also say that Xihe has been Qin's land since ancient times. It is unjust for Wei to occupy it, and it should be returned."
The Mohist talked about what the envoy of Qin State said today, and laughed out loud.
"Since ancient times? That's interesting."
He was laughing at these four words since ancient times. Speaking of which, Qin was a vassal back then, and this vassal was considered a title.
The feudal jurisprudence of the Qin State, to put it broadly, is to the east of Qishan Mountain.
The first official fiefdom of the Qin State was Tianshui, which had all gone to Gansu, and had nothing to do with Shaanxi, let alone Hexi.
But if it is based on 30 years, Qin is qualified to talk about since ancient times, after all, Wei State robbed Xihe.But even earlier, the Qin State obtained the Xihe land only after destroying many countries.
This is the reason why it is impossible for the meeting to meet the pool this time.
Are fists talking at the negotiating table?Or is it legal?
If you talk about fists, it is impossible to eliminate soldiers.
If we talk about jurisprudence, what kind of jurisprudence?
Is it the legal principle of the king's land in the whole world?It's over.
If this legal principle is not respected, how can we distinguish between "reasonable" demands and "unreasonable" demands?
Of course, this meeting at Fengchi will not be like the second meeting to eliminate soldiers. Doctors from all over the world hide daggers and wear leather armor and prepare to negotiate at the negotiating table, so at least they have to be reasonable.
But, there is no way, how can it be reasonable?The State of Qin said that the Xihe River belongs to the State of Qin, and the State of Wei said that the Xihe River belongs to the State of Wei. Both are reasonable and unreasonable, so there is no way to talk about it.
Jurisprudence must always be based on principles.
Is it possible that the principle of the king's land in the world was destroyed by the princes such as Wei Zhao, Han Qi, etc.; the new principle has not yet been produced, so there is no way to talk about it.
Shixin thought, maybe even the Qin State was also worried about the real withdrawal of troops, so that the peace of the Central Plains gave the Wei State a chance to breathe.Now that the Wei State is newly defeated, and the Qin State has achieved a small amount of reform, even if the Mohists wanted to get rid of the troops, the Qin State would not agree.
If it had been in the past, Qin Guo must have planned to blame Qin Guo for the sudden termination of the alliance this time.But at this time, it is not appropriate to let Qin Guo recite, but to leave the stage in protest before discussing the Xihe issue, otherwise there is no way to continue to make a fuss—in case Wei Guo hits a snake with a stick and says he If you want to get rid of the soldiers and hope that the Mo family will support Wei Guo to guard the West River, it will be bad, and you will not be able to make sense at that time.
After thinking about the problems, Shi exhorted: "Well, since the state of Qin said so, then we should go ahead and not let the people of Qin take the lead. Tomorrow, we will directly launch an attack and tell Wei Chuhan that our bottom line is that the state of Zheng is neutral and elected by the people. Mr. Zheng, new laws and land distribution. Otherwise...don’t talk about it!”
The inkman smiled lightly and shook his head, "This meeting will probably end in a few days."
Shi also smiled and said: "No. We are leaving, Wei Chu Han Qi Zhao still have to discuss how to deal with us. Why don't we go first and make room for them, otherwise they will have to cover up their secrets, it's really tiring. "
(End of this chapter)
Every pool.
Seeing all kinds of strange words and emotions of the people's opinions and opinions gathered from all directions, I was very happy.
A person beside him said with joy in his tone: "Juzi, it seems that the people of Wei and Han agree with our "Book of Reporting to the World"."
Shi looked at a document and asked, "What is newspaper?"
The Mohist who was in charge of intelligence work beside him said: "Reporter, answer too. In the past, the son of Cheng Wang said: "The male guard of the Marquis of the Shu State, but only one person will report the imperial edict. Empress Zhongni said, how can you repay grievances with virtue?"
"This is one of them."
"Secondly, Liu Xiahui once said that those who are able to command Zhuanxu will be rewarded by the Yu family. This reward is a sacrificial statement for the lower than the upper. Since the people are gods, the people are the upper, and we are the lower, so Call it a book to report to the world."
Among the Mohists, there are many people who are well-educated and knowledgeable, so I don't think it is different to answer this, and asked with a smile: "The report we circulated in the big city and giant city before, do you think it is the report from Liu Xiahui's words? Or is it the report?" The report of King Kang's words?"
The man also said with a smile: "I thought it meant to inform. Thinking about it later, it's not the case."
"The name of the newspaper should be the newspaper in Liu Xiahui's words, which is the meaning of the sacrificial response."
"The world is in chaos, and the people are suffering. The people are asking, what should I do? The previous retribution is a kind of sacrifice, and what should the people do in response. It's just that ordinary people sacrifice sacrifices as sacrifices, and our Mohists use reason as sacrifices."
"Today's newspaper is mostly meant to answer the people's questions about us in the past few years. Some people may say that if everyone takes a step back, there will be no war in the world. My Mohist attack first and then attack all. I am aggressive, as if the war in the world is really my Mohist. It was triggered. That’s why the giant used the name of “Newspaper” to reply to the people: Those who disrupt the world and those who harm the world are not my Mohists, but the princes and nobles.”
Putting down the document in his hand, he sighed and said, "Exactly."
"Taoism says: lose morality and then benevolence, lose benevolence and then benevolence, lose benevolence and then be righteous, and lose righteousness and then be polite. Those who are loyal and trustworthy are the first to be chaotic."
"The etiquette is the rules. The Zhou rituals are the Zhou's rules. The etiquette here is just a reference."
"For example, if others call me Juzi, I am still me, but Juzi can be Zimozi, Ziqinzi, but at this time calling Juzi refers to me."
"The same is true for rituals. The rituals at this time refer specifically to Zhou rituals and Zhou's rules. I have heard that Yin and Shang often used human sacrifices. Therefore, the rituals of Shang are the rituals of Shang, and the rituals of Shang are not the rituals of Zhou. But at this time, it is specifically meant to be borrowed.”
It's not that I'm tampering and correcting something again. Rituals are originally sacrificial ceremonies, and ancient religious ceremonies were originally one of the legal principles of the formation of the national system.
This is another topic similar to "the white horse is not me".
However, Mohism is not a vassal, but a school of thought. The top Mohists must understand Mohism's debate and contradiction dialectics. This is a major feature of Mohism that is different from the princes.
So when Shi said this, the Mohist who was in charge of intelligence work immediately understood what Shi meant.
Lose morality and then benevolence, lose benevolence and then benevolence, lose benevolence and then be righteous, lose righteousness and then benevolence.Husband Li, loyalty and trustworthiness are thin and chaotic.
Since etiquette is a rule, when it is necessary to use rules to restrain it, it proves that the rules themselves do not come from "self-transformation", but need violence to maintain them, which is not in line with the will of heaven and the way of heaven.
The Mohists talk about the will of heaven, which is the way, so they have their own views on ritual.
The Mohist's "Report to the World" is essentially a new "ritual", but this ritual is impossible to realize, because it comes from Tao, and now the world has lost morality, morality, benevolence and righteousness, so what? Might it be possible to promote new rituals without violent maintenance?
Orderly respect and inferiority are rituals, and everyone is equal is also rituals. The rituals here are rituals, not specifically Zhou rituals.It is like eating wheat at this time refers to eating flour and before that refers to eating grains.
Shi Dao: "If you lose the way, you will gain virtue. What is the way? There are thousands of ways. If you think of governing the country and the world, the way is the adaptation of productive forces and production relations. The old production relations are no longer suitable for the new productive forces, so there is no way. Only talk about virtue, and use the old morality to bind everyone. We seek the Tao and the will of heaven, so if we follow the will of heaven, we must first oppose morality, benevolence, righteousness, and propriety."
This benevolence, this righteousness, and this ceremony are not the original benevolence, the original righteousness, and the original ceremony.If the order of respect and inferiority is already a ritual, and everyone thinks this is the case, then we have to go against the ritual.Break and then stand.The same goes for everything else. "
"Zi Mozi was arguing with Zhongni's disciples about benevolence and righteousness. In fact, he couldn't find other words to replace them. He wanted to use old words to create new meanings. In the end, many people would inevitably be puzzled. Renyi and Confucianism also talk about benevolence and righteousness, but in fact benevolence and righteousness are not the same thing at all.”
Shi Yang took the paper in Yang's hand that recorded the complaints of the people in the market, and asked with a smile, "What did you see?"
That humanity said: "I saw people against benevolence, righteousness, and etiquette, and they think that anti-these things can be talked about without thinking that they are not human. They began to want to claim their own interests, and they thought that restraint Their old rites and old benevolence and righteousness are already chains."
Shi laughed and said: "Yes, so this is the best news. We have waited for 20 years and finally we have waited until now. Although it is only in the Central Plains, it is enough."
"It may be said that Yang Mo is in troubled times. In my opinion, chaos is good. The morality of nobles is that people in fiefs only work and don't resist. Once they resist, some people will talk about chaos in the world. If you don't ask for your own benefits, you are a virtuous person. I I'm really afraid that the world will not be chaotic."
The Mohists' participation in this four-party meeting, of course, has a bottom line and a purpose. This is not something that can be decided by just one person. The procedures that should be followed must be followed, and everyone who should be qualified to know should know.
The Mohist in charge of intelligence is of course qualified to know this matter, because sometimes he needs to come forward to talk with Wei Chuhan's Prime Minister Sima Lingyin and others.
"The giant thinks that once our talks collapse, and we leave the stage in anger, and leave the meeting in anger, what will the world think?"
Shi thought about it for a while and said calmly: "What do you think? The princes are unrighteous, the nobles are unkind, and the Mohists are helpless. How else can we look at it? In the past 20 years, the benevolence and righteousness of the Central Plains of Zhuxia have become our benevolence and righteousness, and are no longer the old ones. Benevolence and righteousness."
He shook the paper in his hand and said: "As soon as the printing technique of paper and grass comes out, the righteousness and public opinion of the world are in our hands. The benevolence we define is benevolence, and the righteousness we define is righteousness."
"In short, remember one sentence. If you stand on a wall, you can be strong without desire. There is nothing we want on this negotiating table, so we can be strong without desire. We can leave as soon as we say, and retreat as we say."
"Since there is no desire, we can say anything that is unrealistic. Because...we know that these things cannot be obtained by negotiating, and we don't think we can get them at all, so we can say that they are unattainable Float to the clouds."
It is just standing on a wall and being strong without desire.
What the Mohists want has already been obtained, and there is nothing the Mohists want on this negotiating table.
The affairs of the State of Song have been settled, and after the battle of Yinyang, it is useless for Wei Chu and Han Cheng not to admit the rationality of the coup in the State of Song. The Mohists have already established a firm foothold in the State of Song.
The matter of Zheng State has been decided, what the Mohists want is never the neutrality of Zheng State, nor the division of Zheng State, but just a awakening of the people and a dispute between Wei Chuhan and Wei Chuhan.
In Chengyang Linqiu, the Mohists don’t want it at all. Once the talks collapse, those who are willing to follow the Mohism can immediately be relocated and arranged to distribute land and farm tools in the Hongze Lake area that has not yet been formed.
Wei Chuhan's defense against the Mohists cannot be resolved at the negotiating table, so let them go and build cities and fortresses.
The purpose of deterring Wei Hanqi in the first battle of Chengyang has been achieved, and the essence of Wei Hanjinyu's failure in the first battle of Yinyang has been passed on to Qin.
Shi couldn't think of what else the Mohists wanted to get from this negotiation.
After all, what the Mo family has to do is to flip the table.But there must be a reason for flipping the table.
The reason why the Mo family raised the table this time is probably like a few people sitting together drinking, and the Mo family took out a bottle of highly poisonous poisonous wine and called each person two catties of poisonous wine. If you don’t drink it, you will look down on me.
Wei Chuhan didn't know how to drink, so the Mo family threw the table in anger, and everyone in the world would say: Wei Chuhan is such a bastard that he doesn't drink.
The person in charge of intelligence knows about the fact that the Mohists want to leave the venue in anger, and judging from the current situation, this alliance will undoubtedly be a dream in the mirror, even if the Mohists really have the idea of eliminating troops and peace for all countries It is also impossible.
"Juzi, the people of Qin say today that if you kill your troops, you will win Xihe. They also say that Xihe has been Qin's land since ancient times. It is unjust for Wei to occupy it, and it should be returned."
The Mohist talked about what the envoy of Qin State said today, and laughed out loud.
"Since ancient times? That's interesting."
He was laughing at these four words since ancient times. Speaking of which, Qin was a vassal back then, and this vassal was considered a title.
The feudal jurisprudence of the Qin State, to put it broadly, is to the east of Qishan Mountain.
The first official fiefdom of the Qin State was Tianshui, which had all gone to Gansu, and had nothing to do with Shaanxi, let alone Hexi.
But if it is based on 30 years, Qin is qualified to talk about since ancient times, after all, Wei State robbed Xihe.But even earlier, the Qin State obtained the Xihe land only after destroying many countries.
This is the reason why it is impossible for the meeting to meet the pool this time.
Are fists talking at the negotiating table?Or is it legal?
If you talk about fists, it is impossible to eliminate soldiers.
If we talk about jurisprudence, what kind of jurisprudence?
Is it the legal principle of the king's land in the whole world?It's over.
If this legal principle is not respected, how can we distinguish between "reasonable" demands and "unreasonable" demands?
Of course, this meeting at Fengchi will not be like the second meeting to eliminate soldiers. Doctors from all over the world hide daggers and wear leather armor and prepare to negotiate at the negotiating table, so at least they have to be reasonable.
But, there is no way, how can it be reasonable?The State of Qin said that the Xihe River belongs to the State of Qin, and the State of Wei said that the Xihe River belongs to the State of Wei. Both are reasonable and unreasonable, so there is no way to talk about it.
Jurisprudence must always be based on principles.
Is it possible that the principle of the king's land in the world was destroyed by the princes such as Wei Zhao, Han Qi, etc.; the new principle has not yet been produced, so there is no way to talk about it.
Shixin thought, maybe even the Qin State was also worried about the real withdrawal of troops, so that the peace of the Central Plains gave the Wei State a chance to breathe.Now that the Wei State is newly defeated, and the Qin State has achieved a small amount of reform, even if the Mohists wanted to get rid of the troops, the Qin State would not agree.
If it had been in the past, Qin Guo must have planned to blame Qin Guo for the sudden termination of the alliance this time.But at this time, it is not appropriate to let Qin Guo recite, but to leave the stage in protest before discussing the Xihe issue, otherwise there is no way to continue to make a fuss—in case Wei Guo hits a snake with a stick and says he If you want to get rid of the soldiers and hope that the Mo family will support Wei Guo to guard the West River, it will be bad, and you will not be able to make sense at that time.
After thinking about the problems, Shi exhorted: "Well, since the state of Qin said so, then we should go ahead and not let the people of Qin take the lead. Tomorrow, we will directly launch an attack and tell Wei Chuhan that our bottom line is that the state of Zheng is neutral and elected by the people. Mr. Zheng, new laws and land distribution. Otherwise...don’t talk about it!”
The inkman smiled lightly and shook his head, "This meeting will probably end in a few days."
Shi also smiled and said: "No. We are leaving, Wei Chu Han Qi Zhao still have to discuss how to deal with us. Why don't we go first and make room for them, otherwise they will have to cover up their secrets, it's really tiring. "
(End of this chapter)
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