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Chapter 983 Orthodox Jurisprudence Son of Heaven
Chapter 983 Orthodox Jurisprudence Son of Heaven ([-])
The scholar on the opposite side couldn't quite understand some of the things Shi said, such as the eight methods of optics, the reason why force is shaped, and the specimen lever pulley.
But still roughly understand the meaning of appropriate.
He thought about it for a while, and felt that Shi was just trying to quibble, and didn't answer his question at all.
His problem was politics, not natural law.
If these two problems are the only one, then there is a big problem.
The scholar asked: "Since the Mohist law is natural, and according to the natural law, the land belongs to the people of the world, doesn't it mean that I can claim this land if I say it is mine?"
Shi was already tired, and thought that you sent someone to be a lobbyist, can you read the books of the Mohists in the past few years first?You don't even read the book, but you rely on speculation, so you feel that everything has been overthrown?
The Mohists have been tossing about in Sishang for 30 years, but this issue of legal rights has not been resolved. Do you dare to represent the interests of the emerging bourgeoisie?
The purpose of using the law of nature is to destroy the feudal legal system, including enfeoffment, fiefdom, patriarchal system, feudal rights, personal dependency, etc., and to use the concept of law of nature to destroy the legal basis of all kingdoms in the world. But it is not to use the law to govern naturally.
Breaking down the old ones and building new ones, some of the other branches of Taoism are going back to the natural world, and that is going astray.
The law of nature is to smash the old, to disintegrate the feudal system, so that the people have the legal right to seize the land of the nobles. Otherwise, it is a crime to seize the land. Why should you common people want the land of the nobles?
After being broken, it is necessary to use concepts such as private property to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Relying on the surrounding technological advantages and surrounding land to relieve pressure, complete primitive accumulation and provide cheap labor. Within a 300-year cycle Completing the steam revolution now seems to be no problem.
At this time, another principle of labor creating wealth is needed to explain the rationality of private land and commodity society.
After 30 years of enlightenment, Sishang has formed a relatively complete system, a semi-finished product that can challenge the feudal system, which is the legal basis of everything.
From the very beginning of labor creating wealth and silverfish theory; then to the confluence of ink and Taoism to follow nature, and the eternity of all things self-transforming and anti-ritual; then to subjective self-interest and objective altruism to explain the divide between the rich and the poor; and then to the means in line with the new legal principles under the new morality To get rich is to respect heaven and respect ghosts... This whole set of theories spanned 30 years and has already taken shape, which cannot be criticized by the elites of the old era.
At most, they just sang the idyllic elegy of the past, as if from the perspective of the landless farmers and hired workers, they sang bad words about the crimes and ugliness under the new rules, but their purpose was not for the landless farmers and hired workers, they just wanted to go back to the past .
The debate on this, in the end, is exactly as expected. The two sides are basically talking about each other. The three views are completely different. It is impossible to have an effective debate. Mozi said this when he talked about the art of debate in the past. The problem is that the basis for two people to argue is that they have a common cognitive basis. If you say it is black and I say it is white, there is no way to argue.
The debate on this question stopped halfway, and the scholar asked again: "Since Shizi said to choose the Son of Heaven, he doesn't know if Shizi can know what the Son of Heaven is?"
Asked in reverse, the scholar said: "The lord of heaven and earth can be divided into two."
"There are those who are noble, and there are those who are noble. Benevolence, righteousness, loyalty, benevolence and tirelessness are also the nobles of heaven; officials and officials are also nobles of people. People in ancient times cultivated their nobles, and human beings follow them."
"The son of heaven, the sincerity of cultivating the lord of the sky is also the example of the virtue of heaven."
"Today's people cultivate their celestial lords in order to obtain human lords."
"Many people cultivate benevolence, righteousness and loyalty, and this is cultivating heavenly honor. Heavenly honor is eternal, which is repaid to heaven, but people seek profit, and cultivating heavenly honor is for the sake of human honor. This is going astray."
"So the world is in chaos today because people don't cultivate Tianjue, but people cultivate Renjue."
"If there is no benevolence, righteousness, loyalty, and trustworthiness in the world, the world will be chaotic. Even though the Mohist school opposes propriety and believes that morality is not permanent, the Mohist school also talks about benevolence and righteousness. The Mohist school has the benevolence, righteousness, and loyalty of the Mohist school. This also requires someone to set an example for the world."
"This example is the emperor."
"The Mohists say that the selection of the Son of Heaven is to choose sages, but in fact the Mohists choose a prime minister, such as Duke Zhou and Yi Yin. They are all virtuous and talented, and they can be prime ministers."
"Another example is Guan Zhong, who is extravagant and obedient, but talented. Such a person cannot become the emperor, because the emperor wants to cultivate the heavenly rank and set an example of morality in the world. This is the emperor's legal principle."
"A wise man can rule the world, but he may not be a moral example."
"Besides, the people are short-sighted and ignorant, so how can they know what is beneficial to the world and what is harmful to the world?"
"So, if the people are asked to choose the emperor, they will definitely choose the emperor who is a moral example, but not necessarily a virtuous person who governs the world."
"Since this is the case, if the Son of Heaven is still alive, why not keep the Son of Heaven and choose wise men to rule the world? The Son of Heaven only needs to set an example at four seasons, and he will rule from the top. Regardless of political affairs, he does not need to be elected, lest there are hypocritical people in the world to deceive the world. people."
"Just like in the Song Dynasty in the past, the Duke of Song was emptiness, and the great Yin was reality. In this way, wouldn't it be beautiful for the emperor to repair the sky and the virtuous to govern people?"
Having said that, it is considered to be poor.
At the beginning, I said that the Mohism's synonymous morality may lead to the split of the Mohism, and then said that the selection of the emperor may lead to the selection of some moral models.
Shi sneered, thinking that Xiu Tianjue's thoughts were too divine.
Xiu Tianjue cannot be seen or touched, but I want everyone in the world to cultivate Tianjue, that is to abide by the morality guided by these theocracy.
But what the Mohists pay attention to is that righteousness is profit. It is not beneficial for you to cultivate the virtue of heaven, so who will cultivate it?
Besides, this kind of theocracy has not solved the ultimate concern, so is it useful to cultivate the virtue of heaven?There is neither heaven nor afterlife, how many people will go to cultivate the virtue of heaven?
You can't create another religion with heaven or afterlife for this Tiande Tianjue system, right?
The highest point of cultivating tiande is to be the son of heaven, but the emperor is still hereditary, so why do ordinary people cultivate tiande?
At most, it is moral education, saying that it is most reasonable for you to cultivate Tianjue, but it turns out that you practice Tianjue for the sake of human beings, which is contrary to the essence. Therefore, we must educate people to give up the ambition of being a human being, and cultivate Tianjue for the sake of cultivating Tianjue.As for why you want to cultivate Tianjue, it is because this is the most reasonable, just like a person wants to raise his parents, there is no need for reason.
After Shi sneered, he asked back: "As you said, there is no need to choose the emperor, just let the emperor of Zhou be hereditary?"
"How can He De, the emperor of Zhou, dare to be called Tianjue? If he really cultivated Tianjue, or if this Tianjue is really the eternal truth, then why can't he even gather a teacher?"
The scholar said: "Since the Mohists say that righteousness and interests are unified, then I will talk about the benefits of this matter from the interests of the world."
"Nowadays the world is undecided, with Han and Qi defeated, there are still states like Zhao, Wei, Zhongshan, Qin, and Yan."
"In the past, King Huan of Qi fought against barbarians, and the world was safe. Although today's people are not as good as they used to be, and the princes are rude, there are still many people in the world who believe in the laws of the emperor."
"If the Mohists force the emperor to reform through labor, or expel the emperor, they will be opposed by some people in the world, and they will not be at odds with the Mohism."
"At that time, the world will still fight, and the people will be killed and injured. Isn't this harmful to the world? So we still have to compromise and don't be too radical. This is beneficial to the world."
"If the Mohist regards the Son of Heaven as a chancellor, then the Mohism has the principle of the Son of Heaven, so it can determine Zhao and Qin, so that the scholars will be convinced, and the rebellion will not be too violent."
Shi Fangyan laughed and said, "What is Ji Xi? He can't even gather a division of troops, but he thinks that the princes really respect him as the emperor? He said that if Qin Zhao tied his hands, Qin Zhao would hang his hands?"
He laughed wildly, spoke disrespect to the emperor of Zhou, and called him by his first name, but that scholar was not the kind of upright person who humiliated his ministers to death, but wanted to truly consider the long-term for the emperor, so he said: "Princes But they have not recognized the Son of Heaven for more than a hundred years. But the Mohists can subdue the princes."
"With the righteousness of the Son of Heaven in hand and the strength of the Mohist army in hand, why worry about the princes' disobedience? Moreover, the most important thing is that those loyal people will not resist under the Mohist rule because of the Son of Heaven."
Shi shook his fingers and said: "First of all, there are not many people in the world who are loyal to the emperor and who hear that the emperor is humiliated and will be at odds with each other. Back then, the Sishang Theater played the emperor's ritual music to entertain the people. Sishang sent guns and money, and asked them to kill the Tian family who insulted the etiquette, and kill the whole family of Han, Zhao and Wei. It took a long time, but there were only seven or eight people."
"Secondly, you have your own education, morality, enlightenment, and knowledge. Those scholars who refuse to accept new things are useless in governing the country and fighting. If they resist, they will be sentenced to various prison terms or shot according to the law. That’s it. The world is in a mighty state, and those who obey will prosper and those who oppose will perish. Scholars who can clearly see the general situation have already devoted themselves to Sishang. The worst thing is to let the concubine come to Sishang and the legitimate son inherit the title for speculation. Why should I care? What about those praying mantises that stand in the way thinking they can block cars?"
"If the so-called Son of Heaven went out to fight this time, so that tens of thousands of scholars gathered from Qin to Qi and from Yan to respond, prepared their own dry food, and did not hesitate to fight to the death, then perhaps it could be said that it was a compromise for the benefit of the world. Now it seems that the so-called Son of Heaven The division has no more than three thousand soldiers, no more than two hundred soldiers, and the mere heart of two hundred soldiers is not enough to say anything about benefiting the world."
"It's just that if you call for two hundred men, you're only the hero of a village. Isn't it ridiculous that a village hero pretends to be the emperor and talks about the pros and cons of the world?"
(End of this chapter)
The scholar on the opposite side couldn't quite understand some of the things Shi said, such as the eight methods of optics, the reason why force is shaped, and the specimen lever pulley.
But still roughly understand the meaning of appropriate.
He thought about it for a while, and felt that Shi was just trying to quibble, and didn't answer his question at all.
His problem was politics, not natural law.
If these two problems are the only one, then there is a big problem.
The scholar asked: "Since the Mohist law is natural, and according to the natural law, the land belongs to the people of the world, doesn't it mean that I can claim this land if I say it is mine?"
Shi was already tired, and thought that you sent someone to be a lobbyist, can you read the books of the Mohists in the past few years first?You don't even read the book, but you rely on speculation, so you feel that everything has been overthrown?
The Mohists have been tossing about in Sishang for 30 years, but this issue of legal rights has not been resolved. Do you dare to represent the interests of the emerging bourgeoisie?
The purpose of using the law of nature is to destroy the feudal legal system, including enfeoffment, fiefdom, patriarchal system, feudal rights, personal dependency, etc., and to use the concept of law of nature to destroy the legal basis of all kingdoms in the world. But it is not to use the law to govern naturally.
Breaking down the old ones and building new ones, some of the other branches of Taoism are going back to the natural world, and that is going astray.
The law of nature is to smash the old, to disintegrate the feudal system, so that the people have the legal right to seize the land of the nobles. Otherwise, it is a crime to seize the land. Why should you common people want the land of the nobles?
After being broken, it is necessary to use concepts such as private property to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Relying on the surrounding technological advantages and surrounding land to relieve pressure, complete primitive accumulation and provide cheap labor. Within a 300-year cycle Completing the steam revolution now seems to be no problem.
At this time, another principle of labor creating wealth is needed to explain the rationality of private land and commodity society.
After 30 years of enlightenment, Sishang has formed a relatively complete system, a semi-finished product that can challenge the feudal system, which is the legal basis of everything.
From the very beginning of labor creating wealth and silverfish theory; then to the confluence of ink and Taoism to follow nature, and the eternity of all things self-transforming and anti-ritual; then to subjective self-interest and objective altruism to explain the divide between the rich and the poor; and then to the means in line with the new legal principles under the new morality To get rich is to respect heaven and respect ghosts... This whole set of theories spanned 30 years and has already taken shape, which cannot be criticized by the elites of the old era.
At most, they just sang the idyllic elegy of the past, as if from the perspective of the landless farmers and hired workers, they sang bad words about the crimes and ugliness under the new rules, but their purpose was not for the landless farmers and hired workers, they just wanted to go back to the past .
The debate on this, in the end, is exactly as expected. The two sides are basically talking about each other. The three views are completely different. It is impossible to have an effective debate. Mozi said this when he talked about the art of debate in the past. The problem is that the basis for two people to argue is that they have a common cognitive basis. If you say it is black and I say it is white, there is no way to argue.
The debate on this question stopped halfway, and the scholar asked again: "Since Shizi said to choose the Son of Heaven, he doesn't know if Shizi can know what the Son of Heaven is?"
Asked in reverse, the scholar said: "The lord of heaven and earth can be divided into two."
"There are those who are noble, and there are those who are noble. Benevolence, righteousness, loyalty, benevolence and tirelessness are also the nobles of heaven; officials and officials are also nobles of people. People in ancient times cultivated their nobles, and human beings follow them."
"The son of heaven, the sincerity of cultivating the lord of the sky is also the example of the virtue of heaven."
"Today's people cultivate their celestial lords in order to obtain human lords."
"Many people cultivate benevolence, righteousness and loyalty, and this is cultivating heavenly honor. Heavenly honor is eternal, which is repaid to heaven, but people seek profit, and cultivating heavenly honor is for the sake of human honor. This is going astray."
"So the world is in chaos today because people don't cultivate Tianjue, but people cultivate Renjue."
"If there is no benevolence, righteousness, loyalty, and trustworthiness in the world, the world will be chaotic. Even though the Mohist school opposes propriety and believes that morality is not permanent, the Mohist school also talks about benevolence and righteousness. The Mohist school has the benevolence, righteousness, and loyalty of the Mohist school. This also requires someone to set an example for the world."
"This example is the emperor."
"The Mohists say that the selection of the Son of Heaven is to choose sages, but in fact the Mohists choose a prime minister, such as Duke Zhou and Yi Yin. They are all virtuous and talented, and they can be prime ministers."
"Another example is Guan Zhong, who is extravagant and obedient, but talented. Such a person cannot become the emperor, because the emperor wants to cultivate the heavenly rank and set an example of morality in the world. This is the emperor's legal principle."
"A wise man can rule the world, but he may not be a moral example."
"Besides, the people are short-sighted and ignorant, so how can they know what is beneficial to the world and what is harmful to the world?"
"So, if the people are asked to choose the emperor, they will definitely choose the emperor who is a moral example, but not necessarily a virtuous person who governs the world."
"Since this is the case, if the Son of Heaven is still alive, why not keep the Son of Heaven and choose wise men to rule the world? The Son of Heaven only needs to set an example at four seasons, and he will rule from the top. Regardless of political affairs, he does not need to be elected, lest there are hypocritical people in the world to deceive the world. people."
"Just like in the Song Dynasty in the past, the Duke of Song was emptiness, and the great Yin was reality. In this way, wouldn't it be beautiful for the emperor to repair the sky and the virtuous to govern people?"
Having said that, it is considered to be poor.
At the beginning, I said that the Mohism's synonymous morality may lead to the split of the Mohism, and then said that the selection of the emperor may lead to the selection of some moral models.
Shi sneered, thinking that Xiu Tianjue's thoughts were too divine.
Xiu Tianjue cannot be seen or touched, but I want everyone in the world to cultivate Tianjue, that is to abide by the morality guided by these theocracy.
But what the Mohists pay attention to is that righteousness is profit. It is not beneficial for you to cultivate the virtue of heaven, so who will cultivate it?
Besides, this kind of theocracy has not solved the ultimate concern, so is it useful to cultivate the virtue of heaven?There is neither heaven nor afterlife, how many people will go to cultivate the virtue of heaven?
You can't create another religion with heaven or afterlife for this Tiande Tianjue system, right?
The highest point of cultivating tiande is to be the son of heaven, but the emperor is still hereditary, so why do ordinary people cultivate tiande?
At most, it is moral education, saying that it is most reasonable for you to cultivate Tianjue, but it turns out that you practice Tianjue for the sake of human beings, which is contrary to the essence. Therefore, we must educate people to give up the ambition of being a human being, and cultivate Tianjue for the sake of cultivating Tianjue.As for why you want to cultivate Tianjue, it is because this is the most reasonable, just like a person wants to raise his parents, there is no need for reason.
After Shi sneered, he asked back: "As you said, there is no need to choose the emperor, just let the emperor of Zhou be hereditary?"
"How can He De, the emperor of Zhou, dare to be called Tianjue? If he really cultivated Tianjue, or if this Tianjue is really the eternal truth, then why can't he even gather a teacher?"
The scholar said: "Since the Mohists say that righteousness and interests are unified, then I will talk about the benefits of this matter from the interests of the world."
"Nowadays the world is undecided, with Han and Qi defeated, there are still states like Zhao, Wei, Zhongshan, Qin, and Yan."
"In the past, King Huan of Qi fought against barbarians, and the world was safe. Although today's people are not as good as they used to be, and the princes are rude, there are still many people in the world who believe in the laws of the emperor."
"If the Mohists force the emperor to reform through labor, or expel the emperor, they will be opposed by some people in the world, and they will not be at odds with the Mohism."
"At that time, the world will still fight, and the people will be killed and injured. Isn't this harmful to the world? So we still have to compromise and don't be too radical. This is beneficial to the world."
"If the Mohist regards the Son of Heaven as a chancellor, then the Mohism has the principle of the Son of Heaven, so it can determine Zhao and Qin, so that the scholars will be convinced, and the rebellion will not be too violent."
Shi Fangyan laughed and said, "What is Ji Xi? He can't even gather a division of troops, but he thinks that the princes really respect him as the emperor? He said that if Qin Zhao tied his hands, Qin Zhao would hang his hands?"
He laughed wildly, spoke disrespect to the emperor of Zhou, and called him by his first name, but that scholar was not the kind of upright person who humiliated his ministers to death, but wanted to truly consider the long-term for the emperor, so he said: "Princes But they have not recognized the Son of Heaven for more than a hundred years. But the Mohists can subdue the princes."
"With the righteousness of the Son of Heaven in hand and the strength of the Mohist army in hand, why worry about the princes' disobedience? Moreover, the most important thing is that those loyal people will not resist under the Mohist rule because of the Son of Heaven."
Shi shook his fingers and said: "First of all, there are not many people in the world who are loyal to the emperor and who hear that the emperor is humiliated and will be at odds with each other. Back then, the Sishang Theater played the emperor's ritual music to entertain the people. Sishang sent guns and money, and asked them to kill the Tian family who insulted the etiquette, and kill the whole family of Han, Zhao and Wei. It took a long time, but there were only seven or eight people."
"Secondly, you have your own education, morality, enlightenment, and knowledge. Those scholars who refuse to accept new things are useless in governing the country and fighting. If they resist, they will be sentenced to various prison terms or shot according to the law. That’s it. The world is in a mighty state, and those who obey will prosper and those who oppose will perish. Scholars who can clearly see the general situation have already devoted themselves to Sishang. The worst thing is to let the concubine come to Sishang and the legitimate son inherit the title for speculation. Why should I care? What about those praying mantises that stand in the way thinking they can block cars?"
"If the so-called Son of Heaven went out to fight this time, so that tens of thousands of scholars gathered from Qin to Qi and from Yan to respond, prepared their own dry food, and did not hesitate to fight to the death, then perhaps it could be said that it was a compromise for the benefit of the world. Now it seems that the so-called Son of Heaven The division has no more than three thousand soldiers, no more than two hundred soldiers, and the mere heart of two hundred soldiers is not enough to say anything about benefiting the world."
"It's just that if you call for two hundred men, you're only the hero of a village. Isn't it ridiculous that a village hero pretends to be the emperor and talks about the pros and cons of the world?"
(End of this chapter)
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