Internet 2010
Chapter 143: midway
When the food was served on the table, Rebs greeted him.
He said, "I'm in charge today, so I'll have a casual chat first.
Today, first of all, everyone is having a good time. It is not easy to make reservations for this private kitchen. It took me a year to make an appointment, so the main thing is to eat.
At this table, everyone in Lao Lin knows the old man DCM. And this Lao Li was forced by me, and Lao Zhou came here uninvited. Lao Zhang and Lao Cao always wanted to get a table, but he missed the chance, so he just settled with one.
If I talk about this table, I won't brag, everyone is here today for this kid. Road boat.
Come, everyone applaud.
Why I called this guy, but everyone is also interested.
very good! First, I know, the guy is very good.
Second, the mobile Internet has said that it has been more than a year, and I can't say that I have really made a move. But as far as I know, this kid has done the best and the most "professional".
Today, everyone will be more casual, eat first, chat casually, pay attention to atmosphere, and pay attention to face. Old Zhou, you can pay attention.
Come on, raise a glass and go first. "
Lu Zhou toasted with several bigwigs, and sat down after drinking, only to find that Li Yanhong only took a small sip.
He noticed Lu Zhou's gaze and said modestly, "I have to go back to the company later, so I won't drink anymore."
Lu Zhou also responded and said, "Understand."
As soon as he caught a lion's head in his hand, Li Yan started talking to him.
"Recently, Qiandu is seeking cooperation with 91, and I have also noticed some situations in your Dream Valley."
As soon as Lu Zhou heard it, what Li Yanhong said was not a secret. As a competitor of bananas, 91 is indispensable for daily analysis.
In the middle, Fang Qiang reported the distribution of some traffic in the middle of 91, and Lu Zhou also felt that this was very consistent with the development trajectory of his previous life.
"In my opinion, this business is not very high. But your newly used ground push method has indeed brought a lot of inspiration to your peers.
Mobile phones are more convenient than PCs. In terms of application promotion, it is easier to combine with reality than PCs.
It's not that I think the technology is too low to look down on, but I think that you are too early.
Based on one point, 91 is mainly ios, which is more oriented than bananas, and users are more oriented and high-end.
Of course, I am an engineer, so talking about the market may not be right. How, tell me. "
Lu Zhou was stunned for a moment. He didn't expect Li Yanhong to think like this. No wonder Qiandu has become the slowest mobile Internet process among the Big Three.
"Do you overestimate your grasp of the status quo and underestimate the speed of future development?"
Li Yanhong was taking a mouthful of beef and put it in his mouth, suddenly he put it down again, and laughed after a second or two.
"It really lives up to its reputation. I changed the manager of the company, but I dare not talk to me like this. I forgot that you are a madman who fights with Lao Zhou. You go on."
Lu Zhou looked a little embarrassed. His words were just straight because he knew the ending.
"Qiyi, Mr. Li is preparing to release the mobile terminal of ios recently. Youku Tudou has not yet responded to this move. The mobile terminal is the first move, which is really a good move. If you are interested, you can come to Banana and try it.
Whether it's true or not, you'll know after a try. I believe Li will always be satisfied. Banana's coverage on Android and iOS is much higher than 91. "
Li Yanhong thought about it for a while and then asked, "What is the form of cooperation between Banana and Taobao?"
Lu Zhouxin said that it was a great luck to pick up the "big Taobao strategy" of the old horse, and it would become a successful case at present. And Li Yanhong, naturally there are some channels to get some news.
"Multi-channel in-depth cooperation."
Before Li Yanhong could speak, Zhang Chaoyang joined the topic, and Li Yanhong didn't care, as if he was thinking about something.
"Boy."
"Hello, Mr. Zhang."
Zhang Chaoyang touched the cup with Luzhou, "Sogou just got on the mobile phone assistant a few days ago, but they mentioned that they can't talk with bananas on the shelf. You can be sure of this."
After listening to it, Lu Zhou felt amused for a while, and he was here to "pick peaches" again, "Mr. Zhang. We don't talk secretly about this. The facade of real estate should be posted "Do not enter with your peers, and face reprimands".
Since Sogou is also a mobile assistant, it is naturally a peer. Everyone should understand this.
Even if the system is open, it is only cooperation in breadth, and openness in depth is limited.
Because of this, I have been in a quarrel with President Zhou, please understand more. "
In just these two sentences, he remembered the "darkest day of China's social networking applications" that Luo Zuizi called.
"Toilet" is Andy Lau's song, but with the word "horse" and social interaction, it's hard to avoid making people think that this is a joke to the little brother.
When Luzhou proposed "ecology", everyone realized that the ecology must form a closed loop to be complete. For commercial companies, the transfer can only be done in the internal system.
All flows must be the flow of user traffic in the self-system, or there is a major external form of cooperation.
Does the mobile assistant go to the application market for promotion? What is the difference between the Sogou mobile assistant and the "toilet", it's just wishful thinking.
When Cao Guowei heard it, he said, "I'll talk about this.
For example, you say Lao Zhou is a hooligan in your scarf, and you make choices for users, so you don't look down on Lao Zhou's methods of making Jinshan. That's right, I support it.
But you have the same problem here when it comes to dealing with bananas.
Can't users choose market apps by themselves? No, users can.
But you chose a certain "rejection" in order to consolidate your own ecological closed loop.
Or let me ask from another angle.
If, I mean, if WeChat becomes bigger and successful, will one day you also want to block some peer resources in the system, just like buckling.
Sounds like a philosophical series, but that's the question. "
Lu Zhou was smacking his tongue. He was indeed the head of the "largest media organization" in China. His words were really vicious.
And Zhou Hongyi is not afraid of big things, so he opened his mouth and said, "This matter, Lu Zhou is a small matter. Let's discuss this topic, and we don't talk about the specific right or wrong of a certain example, just refer to the problem shown by the example as a model.
I'm also not afraid of Lao Li's hatred. I'm directly talking about a question that was raised at the beginning of the year. Putian Hospital problem.
"Free is the most expensive", this is what we often say.
We abstract from the thousand-degree matter, and the question is very simple: through user data and privacy, whether Internet companies have the right to use it to make profits. "
Lu Zhou noticed Li Yanhong's expression beside him, and was unusually calm.
Li Yanhong eloquently said, "This is not a question of power. Enjoying convenience means dataization, which means that the word 'privacy' needs to be redefined.
Here, you must be doing the same thing. Free is the way it should be.
The first thing I uphold is the innocence of technology, and the unpredictability of human nature. In this case, it is up to the machine to judge. "
Zhou Hongyi laughed, "So, Putian pays the money, and the data is raised, so your machine can judge that it can harm people?"
Li Yanhong watched coldly, "In a sense, yes. You do it, too. As long as Qihoo is profit-seeking, that's it. Of course, it can be more optimized technically."
"I'll say a few more words." Cao Guowei interjected.
"I think that even if the company's purpose is to make a profit. But as a tool maker, there should still be enough self-control.
A product, like a scarf, is first and foremost something that belongs to everyone, and it can even be said to be an 'infrastructure'.
Some people can come to preach, and some people can come and play hooligans. I want to make money, yes, but I need a degree of freedom.
So I can't turn someone away just because some preacher is talking about bananas or rice.
Xinlang started as a media company, and we are sensitive and full of mission in doing one thing.
Whether it's public opinion or power, it can't be you to control what users can only watch or what they can't watch.
Dataization and privacy can be a very 'moral' thing. This, I think you should think about it carefully. "
After listening to Cao Guowei's words, Lu Zhou called out "good guy", which was really quite "level", and he "pointed" the three people in the room openly and secretly.
Speaking of preaching, it is not Luzhou and Rebs who play tricks with scarves, and if they say that they are hooligans, they are not referring to Zhou Hongyi, who is "in trouble in Jinshan".
And at the end of Cao Guowei's words, he even praised the scarf without a trace.
As soon as Cao Guowei finished speaking, Zhang Chaoyang, who had finished eating the chicken leg, also opened his mouth.
"Old Cao. Your words make sense.
But I personally think that this is the result of the product form of the scarf itself. It's not that you don't want to close the ecology, it's that you can't.
If you think about commercialization, you can't get around this problem.
I shared it with another person, but the resource was blocked, and the spread was between two people.
Even if you include the button group, it is still limited in scope.
But as for the scarf, it's too open, and if your heart waves interfere a little, it will have a huge impact on it.
Of course, Sohu Bib also has the same problem.
'Gene' determines its natural 'character'.
The scarf, according to Luzhou's "ecological" statement, is destined to be difficult to close.
Energy and matter will continue to overflow. So, that's not your reason to condemn them. "
After listening to Zhang Chaoyang's words, Cao Guowei did not refute it. After all, he would be too boastful of himself as a "moral gentleman".
Li Yanhong took advantage of the fact that several people were chatting happily, and he had already swept a lot of food into his stomach, so he started talking.
"From front to back, restraint has never been a solution.
Like the scarf, I believe you are also plagued by a problem, 'rumours'.
In an open commons, there are problems with overindulgence. Just like where there are no cameras, crime is more likely to happen.
And to eliminate the evil of human nature from technology, you might as well ask the government to legislate to eliminate it.
Of course we were too fast. Whether laws, morals or values are constantly being shaped in a short period of time. "
"Brother Li is still Brother Li in the end, and I have already sensed the threat of the scarf 'rumour' to the platform itself. It is inevitable that it will be boring at this point." After listening to Li Yanhong's words, Lu Zhou thought to himself.
And he also calculated Cheng Xuyuan's development progress at hand, and what progress has this official account reached.
Zhou Hongyi heard this "too fast", and at the right time, she even put on the appearance of a pistol, "It's still your old Li Kuai. I searched the engine, but I'm still on the way. If you're like that, something will happen sooner or later. It's too rational. , ideally naive."
This made everyone laugh awkwardly.
"Mr. Zhou is bright. But it depends on what your 360 looks like, haha."
Lu Zhou picked up the conversation.
"To put it bluntly. We have been searching for an ideal country.
One day, a fully digitalized human may really not be far away. Maybe ten, twenty or thirty years.
It's really getting to the point where it can't be added. Think about the Internet world created by the big guys in the past ten years, fast, really fast.
What about after that?
With the advancement of biology, materials, and medicine, perhaps the secret of longevity is being created step by step in our hands.
Data and people themselves should be an individual, not separate.
Of course, it also means a change in interaction.
Maybe today everyone regards the mobile phone as an important interaction method and is used to it, but it is still not the end of interaction.
And the revolution in the middle, I think it will only be crazier than the millennium Internet, today's mobile Internet.
Today, what we do as a company is actually just pushed by the times to make various choices. And that's just a decision made by our entire community.
Will there be gods in this world?
Perhaps, after really breaking through the bottom line of traditional ethics and privacy, the system we make is moving closer to such a thing. "
Li Yanhong's eyes were bright, and he took a long breath, as if Lu Zhou's description was too "sci-fi".
"Hopefully, thousands of degrees will still exist on that day."
Zhou Hongyi laughed, "I have to see this reality even if I live on my knees."
......
From power, morality, and even the future, perhaps because the topic here is too stray, Rebs only started talking after he was full of food and drink.
"Come on. It's good for everyone to have fun and talk about it. I look at you like taking medicine~www.readwn.com~ Talking about ideals and morals, how unreal.
You are a puppy, Apple and Android just came out today, you have to predict that the mobile phone will disappear in the future, are you crazy? I also make cell phones.
Let's, why don't we chat about WeChat, what do you think? "
Lu Zhou raised his head and looked at Rebs. He was looking at himself with the goblet, and when he looked at the people around him, his eyes were completely different from just now.
Who in the world does not know, Duke Lu wants to Wang Guanzhong?
Gathering a group of "creating dreams" and gathering in the Dream Valley, there is quite a ghost plan of "sprinkling beans into soldiers", and it has become a country without a sound.
One-handed open source, slightly exposed, killed a few families and discarded their armor, so others can't help but be afraid.
WeChat is now on hold, but here, probably because he was afraid of Lu Zhou's sudden upheaval, he directly "called the king".
"It really means Hongmen Banquet." Lu Zhou thought to himself.
When he looked at the appearance of Rebs again, he really looked like Fan Zeng who instructed Xiang Zhuang to dance the sword.
The first question is whether there is cooperation with bananas, the second is whether there is still a bottom line for bananas, the third is the ecological closed loop, and one or two breakthroughs are found, or whether it is possible to cooperate in the future.
It was like a murder scene with no rehearsal but extremely accurate, and the last sword was danced in the tacit cooperation of everyone.
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