Internet 2010

Chapter 389: hammer, hammer

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"Hello. Who is that?"

Seeing that it was an unfamiliar phone call, Lu Zhou was as polite as usual. Especially since the number belongs to Hangzhou, who knows if it is the big boss of Ma.

It's better to be low-key and polite.

"Hello, it's Lu Zhou. I'm Ma Yun."

Lu Zhou was embarrassed, but he really wanted what he wanted, but he didn't know what the boss Ma was looking for him for.

However, as long as it is not like Ma Huateng, who comes up and says what he wants to acquire, Luzhou can still speak politely.

"Mr. Ma is good, look forward to it for a long time."

Ma Yun laughed out loud on the phone, "This is old-fashioned. I thought you young people are not the same as us now."

This is unacceptable...

Lu Zhou, Fang Qiang, Cheng Xuyuan, etc., then they must get along casually. It's not a big deal to discuss in private and move hands and feet.

But you gang of Internet 1.0 bigwigs, if you just pick one out, you will be in your teens or twenties, so Lu Zhou must be polite.

Lu Zhou could have a casual conversation with Lin Xinhe, Rebs or Zhang Xiaolong. But like Ma Huateng, the contact was a few times, but the aura was inexplicably different, and it was really boring to chat. To be honest, Ma Huateng directly threw out the price and said that he wanted to buy it for the first time. Is this tm a person can bear? Anyway, Lu Zhou felt that he couldn't get anywhere.

As for He Ma Yun? It was the first time, and it was really unfamiliar. To say it for a long time, that's what happened. The godfather of this chicken soup, which countryman hasn't heard him blow a few words of brilliance in the future.

That's what's in the heart.

Lu Zhou coughed slightly, "Mr. Ma. What's the matter with your call?"

Ma Yun is also easy-going, he smiled, "I wonder if you have heard of Yunfeng?"

Lu Zhou had some ideas when he heard this, and the old horse seemed to be running by himself. He thought about it and said, "I know a thing or two. It's an investment fund initiated and founded by you."

The old horse, Yun Feng, really has a lot to say about it. He will not mention it himself. What other giants, Shi Yuzhu, Focus Jiang Nanchun, New Hope Boss, and Seven Wolf Bosses are the founders...

As for investment, although there are definitely many Ali companies, this fund is not directly related to Ali Group. Needless to say, Mengguang just started two years ago, when group buying was hot, Yunfeng invested in Gaopeng.

This Gaopeng is not the originator of group buying in the United States, but was established by a joint venture between Penguin and Gaopeng.

The sentence is not good, this tm is financing the enemy? !

Of course, the thought must have passed. A group of entrepreneurs are financially free and have money in their hands. It’s okay to co-author a fund and make some investments.

After all, it is not Ma Yun who has the final say in Yunfeng, and it is estimated that the managers are also making decisions.

Ma Yun said with a smile on the phone, "Mr. Lu. Ming people don't speak secretly, I'll tell the truth. I'm just here to be a matchmaker and lead a line for the two families. It's up to you to decide what to do. "

Hearing this, Lu Zhou remembered the first time he cooperated with Bao Bufan. At that time, Menggu Cloud was looking for financing, and Ali also handed over an offer at that time. The veto was a sure thing, but he remembered it now that Yun Feng should have been in contact with him at the time, and it was clearly done by Ma Yun, and Lu Zhou directly pressed it down without much thought.

Lu Zhou said, "Okay, Mr. Ma. I will inform the manager of Mengguyun about this, and arrange for someone to communicate in advance."

You're welcome, Lu Zhou thought to himself.

But when Lu Zhou thought about it again, it was a strange thing to say. The manager of Yunfeng, if he wants to cast a dream in the cloud, his heart is so itchy that he has to pull a line, so how much does he want to come in?

In particular, Alibaba is also working on Alibaba Cloud, so there must be a shortage of money inside. So blatantly to "fund the enemy", it's really a loss for the old horse to really come to be a lobbyist.

However, if we change our minds again, it can probably also explain that Yun Feng's independence is just that. If you think about it, the rich just take some money to invest. If they just invest in Ali’s own ecosystem, the rich are happy, and fund managers are probably in trouble.

Lu Zhou continued, "However, President Ma, let me say something more."

Ma Yun laughed and said, "You said."

Lu Zhou, "Everyone knows that cloud computing has a head start, but if you really want to invest, then you should also understand that Menggu Cloud will be in a loss state for the next few years."

After Ma Yun listened to it, she was a joy. Is there a reason for picking faults with herself and pushing money out?

If he loses money in cloud computing, he still has a bottom line in his heart.

Dream Valley Cloud made 150 million revenue in 10 years and 1.7 billion in 11 years. In 2011, Alibaba Cloud was 1.2 billion less than Menggu Cloud.

You must know that AWS, which was the first to start cloud computing, only generated $500 million in revenue last year.

If this company has chased half of others in two years, will it still be worth it after two years?

It doesn't matter if you lose now, there is hope in the future! How about a little bit of private money invested in it.

The gap is here, and it is certain that Ali wants to chase, but it is also because of the gap, so when Yunfeng's management told him to connect Mengguyun, Ma Yun himself was not disgusted.

Ma Yun said with a smile, "Mr. Lu, everyone understands. This Yunfeng management will grasp it. In addition, I will take this opportunity to communicate with you again."

Lu Zhou said politely, "You said."

Ma Yun said, "Alibaba Cloud has not entered the Menggu Cloud Computing Open Alliance. However, in many open source projects of Menggu Cloud, Alibaba Cloud has been continuously participating in them. I think, in the middle, Menggu Cloud and Alibaba Cloud should be able to reach some substantial cooperation to jointly promote the evolution and development of some cloud computing technologies."

After listening to Lu Zhou, he didn't think too much. He said directly, "Mr. Ma. This is a win-win cooperation. Mengguyun is very willing to do such a thing. Later, I will instruct Mengguyun's technical department to let them Communicate directly with Alibaba Cloud."

There's nothing wrong with this.

When it comes to open source things, Mengguyun has made projects that clearly cannot take out key parts, which is not like Qixing Open Source Longan AI. Second, open source does not mean free. Alibaba Cloud really takes some things to use, and if there is any money, it still has to be paid. As for the last thing, cooperative research can speed up the pace, and both sides can also save some R&D costs.

That being said, Lu Zhou has no reason to refuse.

Ma Yun heard a hearty laugh on the phone, "Okay! Happy cooperation, Mr. Lu."

Lu Zhou also laughed and said, "Happy cooperation."

Even if it doesn't matter?

Ma Yun continued, "It's just these two things. I won't bother you more. We will contact you later."

Lu Zhou said, "Thank you. Goodbye Mr. Ma."

"OK, bye."

After Ma Yun finished speaking, a beep came from the phone after a while, and Lu Zhou hung up the phone.

Lu Zhou smiled for no reason and said that his old horse was too idle, which was actually true. After all, the two things are really not that important.

But when the two horses came into contact before and after, the feeling was quite different.

Ma Huateng did it right away, and this Ma Yun, he chose something that was not very important.

It is no fun to live peacefully with Ma Huateng. As for Ma Yun, it really depends on what tricks he plays behind.

Not to mention, since the beginning of the year, the various actions of WeChat payment are actually very big, such as subsidy for telephone bills in the past year, red envelopes for wool during the Spring Festival, and then to the promotion of Menggu after the new year. But at this moment, Lao Ma Yun didn't mention a word. It can be regarded as a friendly communication.

Of course, Lu Zhou also knew that it was right to say that he was friendly, but it was also appropriate to say that Ma Yun was arrogant.

In cloud computing, Alibaba Cloud is really not as good as Menggu Cloud. Last year's revenue alone was several orders of magnitude worse.

But when you talk about e-commerce and payment, even Ma Huateng doesn't dare to say that he can play. Although several conflicts are not uncommon.

In 10 years, Ali's e-commerce revenue in China has reached more than 3.5 billion yuan, and in 2011, it has directly doubled to more than 7 billion yuan. If you look at Ali's growth in the first quarter of this year, this part will double again in 2012, and it should be quite easy to go directly to 15 billion.

Lu Zhou thought about it. At the Dream Valley Developer Conference last year, Ma Yun was making a fuss about Alipay, and he was also "driving tigers". And just a month ago, Ali had already made a privatization offer.

This stock price is worrying on the one hand, and Ma Yun is also afraid of losing control over the equity issue.

It's strange to think about it. Ali's business has been rising in recent years, but Xiangjiang's investors do not buy it. It's probably a "historical problem".

When Xiangjiang was listed in the market that year, Ali’s cake was big enough. According to the revenue and profit at that time, the price-earnings ratio reached an astonishing 300. Investors are crazy, but the over-premium that goes crazy has its problems. There are not so many Bezos in the world, even if it is a benchmark, that must be the case.

This has been going down and down for several years~www.readwn.com~ and then the shareholder of Yahoo!

But no matter what, Ali has turned around every year in recent years. When Lu Zhou knows that Ali will go to the United States for its next IPO, Ali will directly come up with a dazzling multi-billion dollar profit data, and then put together a more reasonable 50-60 times PE. Ali, which is valued at more than 150 billion US dollars, can be said to be in the limelight. No two.

The confidence of the old horse, this is not a piece of paper.

And look at Dream Valley, in the first two years, e-commerce was 0, and third-party payment was small. It is nothing more than that in the past six months, Menggu Payment, relying on the user base of WeChat, has pushed the transaction flow of WeChat payment to a very high volume.

But it's really a bit over the top to compare it with Ali like this. However, if you say that you are underestimating yourself, that is not enough. Whether Menggu can grab a piece of meat on e-commerce, Lu Zhou is not sure, but if you say WeChat pays, then you have to get it at any cost.

And when it comes to the Spring Festival, the old horse doesn't say it clearly, but he must be nervous about it, and it is estimated that he is also waiting for the Spring Festival to be mixed with the first-hand red envelopes. If you go to Ali's door, you can't have a fight? !

"These people, tsk tsk tsk..."

But Nima is a tiger, and he likes to hammer at every turn.

Then hammer it, there's really no other way.

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