New Shun 1730
Chapter 120: Don’t stop until you say something shocking
The words Qingzhou Soldier are too scary.
Liu Yu didn't know what to say for a while.
Neither does kowtow. If you kowtow, doesn’t that mean there is something wrong in your heart?
It doesn't matter if you don't kowtow. What did the boss of the Qingzhou soldiers do? "The Romance of the Three Kingdoms" is everywhere now. These three words are really a bit heavy.
Li Gan seemed to want this effect. After waiting for a long time of silence, he smiled and said: "Don't be afraid, sir. Cao Meng is a capable minister in governing the world, and a traitor in troubled times. If his king is not the Young Emperor Ling, but the Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, , Tang Zong, isn’t it possible for him to be a noble minister?”
"Ai Qing knows how to train troops, how to attack cities, and how to recruit soldiers. If in troubled times, when a man with strong soldiers and horses becomes the emperor, can he be a loyal minister? Don't you think that I am not the one who governs the world?"
Liu Yu hurriedly said: "Your Majesty is ambitious, and I only know it. If we take the theory of the three generations of "Gongyang", now the Mongols have surrendered and entered the jue, and the barbarians in the West have civilized. In fact, 'the barbarians and the Di have advanced to the jue, and the world is as big and small as one.' This is a sign of peace. Isn’t it just about governing the world?”
According to the classification method of Gongyang School, history can be divided into three types: "the age of decline and chaos", "the age of prosperity" and "the age of peace".
The era of decline and chaos refers specifically to the time when the Xia were not yet unified. At that time, there was no distinction between internal and external Yi and Di.
Once unified, the Era of Peace began.
Zhu Xia and Yi Di have been divided, so we must protect the world, respect the king and repel the barbarians, and strictly prevent the division between Yi and Xia.
When the time of peace comes, when the Yi and Di are civilized, they will also have etiquette, justice and civilization, and the world will be as big and small as one, far and near.
Since the subtle words are of great significance, then the last "peaceful era" can be interpreted in many ways.
It can be said that the Western countries are now civilized, have systems, and have etiquette and justice. We can also say that the world is as big and small as one, far and near.
This etiquette can be said to be practiced by all countries in Confucian etiquette, or there can be another explanation.
For example, the emperor asked Liu Yu to read the original words in "The Biography of Zhang Qian and Li Guangli": Dawan, Daxia, and Parthia are all large countries with many strange things and indigenous people, [quite similar to China].
Liu Yu is not sure about this, but Daxia and Dawan should be Hellenistic countries. Since such a country is said to be [quite similar to China], it is obviously not Confucianism used in Daxia.
But from a purely institutional and civilized perspective, this can be considered civilized and polite.
Using this explanation, it can be said that today’s Western countries are also [quite similar to China].
In addition, the concept of the earth has been spread, and it is already known how big the world is. This can obviously be called a peaceful era in which "the barbarians and the Di are advancing to the lords, and the world is as big and small as one".
It's just that there is no real "Emperor" in the world, but China can fully serve as the defender of "propriety and justice" and civilize barbarians in the name of civilization.
Who is savage?
Of course they are uncivilized and weak-fighting natives.
The theory of the three generations of Gongyang's theory can be changed by later generations into the basis for reform, or it can be changed into the crooked theory that "colonialism is civilized and civilized barbarism."
Of course, the premise is that Dashun is qualified to colonize others, rather than being colonized by others.
Dashun will definitely not be able to pacify the great powers at this time, so it is better to take the initiative to join and formulate the laws of the new era as a polite and righteous prince.
At worst, the Five Hegemons will make rituals and return to the Spring and Autumn Period.
As for etiquette and righteousness in the future, who defines it still depends on strength.
Liu Yu used the emperor's words to say that this was the beginning of the peaceful era, and also used this to give the emperor a direction for future debates: How should the definition of barbarian be defined in the future?
Based on the description in "The Biography of Zhang Qian", are those countries such as Parthia, Daxia, and even Daqin and Rome, which are quite similar to China, considered barbarians?
In other words, are France, Britain and other countries today considered barbarians?
Liu Yu didn't want to get involved in this matter of debating scriptures for the time being, he just wanted to take the opportunity to get a clue.
The emperor also did not expect that Liu Yu would find an explanation from this, and secretly praised the choice of this topic.
Hearing what Liu Yu said again, he smiled and said: "It seems that you have really read the book between me and you. The biography of Zhang Bowang has a lot to say. According to what you said, today is a time of great strife, with various countries fighting, and the barbarians and the Di. As for Jue, the world is as big and small as one. If it is really a peaceful world, I am afraid it will not be peaceful. In your opinion, is it a peaceful world when the seven heroes are fighting?"
Liu Yu cautiously said: "Forget it. Because the world at that time did not know the Western Regions were poisonous in the west, and Japan was unknown in the east. Therefore, when the seven heroes competed, each had his own title, and the great and the small, far and near, were one, and finally they were one, and the world was peaceful."
"Since the Han Dynasty, the world has become larger, and there are even Xiongnu, Western Regions, Xianbei and Donghu. As the world has become larger, it has regressed back to the era of peace. To protect the country of propriety and righteousness, attack the barbarian customs of Yi, Di and Di."
"When our dynasty arose at the end of the Ming Dynasty, missionaries came to the west, and the world became even bigger. This time it was impossible to get bigger. Our dynasty was not a barbarian, and the Western countries also had etiquette and customs similar to those of China. This The other ones are Yi Di.”
“Countries should be like the feudal colonizers of Zhou Dynasty, fighting barbarism with civilization, occupying land and civilizing it.”
"When the world is divided and cannot be taken back, there will be another rebellion among the Seven Heroes. The winner will be Qin, and the four seas will share the same cultural path. This will be the end of the peaceful age."
"In the age of great strife, there is no retreat. The earth is so big, and the world is destined to be no more than tens of thousands of miles away. If defeated... the cloth coins of the Three Jin Dynasties will eventually become Qin's half liang; the birds and insects of Chu will eventually become Qin's small seal script; Qi Zhiji's palace was finally destroyed by Qin's method."
"I am therefore always worried and sighing. Some people may think that this is 'worrying about nothing'. However, it is not worth talking about if I don't laugh. I have seen that many Western countries have been destroyed. The land of America was called Yindian by the remnants of the Shang Dynasty, but now the writing has been destroyed and the customs have changed. Many countries in Southeast Asia also use Japanese and Spanish."
"For these stories, I have to compare them with the story of Duke Zhou enfeoffing the world and colonizing it. Once the surrounding areas are all destroyed, how can our dynasty be spared? Moreover, Westerners now have the advantage of armor and ships, and if our dynasty does not rise up, I am afraid that there will be great disasters in the future."
This is the first time that Li Gan has heard such a terrifying statement. Compared with what Liu Yu said in the Gongyang Commentary, it seems to make a lot of sense.
Only then did Li Gan seem to understand why Liu Yu kept thinking about some things, as if it was the end of the Ming Dynasty, and there was a sense of urgency.
If it is alarmist, it is not to the point.
The chaos at the end of the Ming Dynasty was a great lesson. The Later Jin had only 200,000 people, but it almost made China sink. If we talk about Westerners, they are indeed stronger than the Later Jin in terms of firearms and ships.
With such a lesson, Li Gan was really worried. He didn't want to play ostrich, because playing ostrich is useless. Liu Yu's words were almost like saying that in another hundred years, I'm afraid that Westerners will learn from the Later Jin to make Dashun defeated.
Nonsense such as the king's virtue is naturally not within the system of royal education.
Li Gan also knew that there was no empire that lasted for thousands of years in the world, and there was no magic pill that could prolong life. Otherwise, which of the Qin Emperor, Han Wu, Tang Zong, and Ming Zu was not a hero? But which one of them was a dynasty for thousands of years?
Now the court said that the Ming Dynasty was actually destroyed by Shenzong.
Li Gan's mind was full of pacifying Mongolia and recovering the Western Regions, and he was quite ambitious. He was really afraid that a hundred years later, he would also be evaluated as: the demise of Shun was actually destroyed by Taixing.
Liu Yu's words suddenly made him feel depressed again after he said that.
He sighed deeply and said, "Looking at all the ministers, you are the first one to have such worries. Are you worrying too much? Or is it because your opinion is too high? In your opinion, is it so hopeless? I want to hear the truth. You can just say it."
Liu Yu also took a deep breath, thinking that he would risk it, and said, "I dare to ask Your Majesty, how do you think our navy compares to the Westerners?"
"It can't be compared. Westerners have strong ships and powerful guns. Duke Qi has seen them in Fujian in the past. Moreover, Westerners can travel thousands of miles to here, so we can get a glimpse of them."
Liu Yu asked again, "If a hundred years later, I were a Westerner. I would attack with the navy. I only need 20,000 elite soldiers. Sea transportation is fast and cannot be compared with land transportation. Today, I will attack Guangdong and wait for the army to come to encircle and suppress it, and then take a ship to Ningbo. How can the army go by land and sea transportation be comparable? Compared to that? The sea ships reach Ningbo, and I'm afraid the army has just left Guangzhou. "
"If they keep going like this, they will break through Zhenjiang and cut off the grain transport, which will split the Celestial Empire into two, with the north and the south separated. What can Your Majesty do?"
"At that time, a letter will be sent with a request for surrender, and the imperial examination will still be held. The scholars and officials can even shave their hair. If the imperial examination can be held and the grain transport is cut off, what will happen to Jiangnan? If Jiangnan rebels, and there is a strong navy, what will happen to the world?"
"The navy cannot defeat it, and the land force is not as mobile as taking a boat. Twenty thousand soldiers can contain one hundred thousand. The sea border is thousands of miles long. If you defend everywhere, you will be defenseless everywhere. Haven't you heard that the art of war says: If you double everywhere, you will be outnumbered everywhere?"
"Therefore, Xu Guangqi of the previous dynasty said: The Liaodong incident is nothing more than a scabies. The future great trouble must be in Nanyang. This minister is uneasy all day long."
Li Gan was shocked.
Especially after hearing Liu Yu say "break Zhenjiang, cut off the grain transport, and open the imperial examination", I was even more sweaty.
The combat-ready soldiers of Dashun are either in the northwest border or in the Beijing camp. Counting the light cavalry of the Songhua River and the field troops guarding Mongolia, if there is really something in the southeast, it will take a year to gather troops and march to the southeast.
Liu Yu is right. The army takes a ship, and Westerners can come to Nanyang from thousands of miles away. Isn't it easy to go from Nanyang to Guangdong and Ningbo?
The army goes to Guangdong, not to mention whether it can win, why do they want to fight a field battle?
After mobilizing the main force, they will directly take a ship to the north. Once the grain transport is cut off, what can you do to me?
Supporting puppets, once the imperial examination is opened, they will certainly welcome the elegant politics of the new dynasty and think that it is the will of heaven.
After several consecutive mobilizations, either the army would defend the capital and delegate power to the governor-general, which would be a disaster for the Tang Dynasty; or the army would not defend the capital and would maneuver back and forth on land, being led by others. Once defeated, the world would inevitably fall.
The navy was not strong, and the connection between the north and the south depended entirely on the canal.
Once the canal was broken, the north and the south were separated, and it could be said that the court had directly lost control over the south.
Whether the Westerners supported puppets or the ambitious people took the opportunity to start a rebellion, it would come to that point. It was unknown whether the world would perish, but Dashun would definitely be finished.
As for whether the navy could beat the Western fleet, Li Gan had a good idea in his mind.
When he was sweating profusely, his hands couldn't help shaking. Liu Yu's words were like a nightmare, completely surrounding Li Gan's heart.
This idea was too bold and sounded like a fairy tale. But if you think about it carefully, there is a lot that can be done.
Perhaps fearing that Li Gan's nightmare was not bad enough, Liu Yu said, "Your Majesty, England, France and France are now fighting for India. India has never had a big country since ancient times, and all of them are loose states that have always been subservient. My worry is not today, but once India surrenders in the future, the Western countries will not be thousands of miles away, but close at hand. By then, can Your Majesty ensure that there will be no smart people in the West who will think of cutting off the grain transport and opening the imperial examination?"
"Is it okay to put the safety of the country on the assumption that all Westerners are stupid?"
"Your Majesty is wise and powerful, but none of the Han, Wu and Tang sects are wise or wise. Can their descendants be guaranteed?"
The words added at the end made Li Gan's eyesight go dark, and he felt a sharp pain in his heart. He covered his heart and gasped for a while. He stopped the eunuch who was about to call the imperial doctor and said sternly: "What I said today, if there is even half of it... A side story!”
Without saying anything else, the eunuchs all knelt on the ground, not daring to breathe. After listening to Liu Yu's words, everyone was so frightened that they lost half of their souls. They were shivering all over and said repeatedly: "Your Majesty, please rest assured. If there are any rumors, everyone on duty today will be guilty of the same!"
Li Gan waved his hand and shouted: "Get out! Get out!"
The eunuch left in a hurry. As soon as the door was closed, Li Gan stood up and walked around several times, sat down, and stood up again, looking a little at a loss.
After a long time, he said: "What you said is absolutely true, what you said is absolutely true, what you said is absolutely true! In the age of great strife, in the age of great strife... If you don't rise up, let alone the dignity of the heaven, you just want to stand together and become princes. Not even that. You’re right, you can’t expect Westerners to be stupid.”
"As long as water transportation is stopped, imperial examinations are opened, and warships are transported to the coast to fight, and the southeast is eroded, the country will be destroyed soon. India... India. From what you see, how long will it take for the Westerners to fight for India?"
Thinking that the story has reached this level anyway, Liu Yu said: "The Indian soldiers are weak, the princes are splitting the soil, and each has his own agenda. The Westerners have been colonizing for two hundred years, and they are quite familiar with the art of differentiation and win-win. In my opinion, within thirty years, , there must be a solution.”
"Thirty years...thirty years..."
Li Gan muttered to himself, constantly talking about the thirty years. Thirty years later, he should be old enough to listen. If something like this happens, he will be judged as "actually dead in Taixing" in the future.
He never thought about the eternal lineage and taking history as a guide, which was just a dream; he also didn't think about extending his life for a hundred years and the Qin Emperor's lesson was really elusive.
Sooner or later he was going to die, but he neither wanted to bear the weight of history's judgment, nor did he want to die at the hands of Westerners as Liu Yu said.
Those who died in the uprising will always have a better evaluation, but at worst, they will be mediocre in later generations. But if he died at the hands of Westerners... this evaluation would be comparable to that of Zhao Jiu, and it was Zhao Jiu under the radical ideology promoted by Dashun.
What Liu Yu said is simpler and more terrifying if you really put it into practice: If there is a big disaster in the south of the Yangtze River and someone is willing to start an uprising, borrowing Western soldiers, even the Huayi debate can be ignored.
According to Liu Yu, there were only thirty years left. It was only at this moment that Li Gan seemed to truly understand why Liu Yu was so weird and why he had never been able to figure out what Liu Yu wanted to do before.
If it was because of this, everything would be easier to understand.
During the day, he had just enjoyed the pleasure of Yi Di's majesty, but in the evening he suffered such a nightmare. Li Gan's spirit was really unbearable.
After a long time, he said softly: "Get up and answer. I ask you, do you have any feasible strategy? Don't talk nonsense like water-promoting masters, but feasible strategies, not general talk about Yushan Longzhong. What I want you to do is to deal with the problem. You know what I mean about the Rakshasa negotiations and the war in Northern Xinjiang.”
Liu Yu understood what Li Gan meant. Promoting the navy was nonsense. If it wasn't nonsense, it should be about how to build it, how to make money, how to make the courtiers not object, and how not to end up like Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, where the world's household registration was halved, or how Emperor Yang of the Sui Dynasty became angry and resentful. .
"Yes. But we need to do it step by step."
"Where to break the situation?"
"North Korea, Japan, and the Qingzhou soldiers your Majesty mentioned."
"Why not Nanyang?"
"It can't be defeated. We must train troops in Japan, get money, and continue to invest. The Navy is a bottomless pit. If there is no profit, it cannot support it. The Army can still suppress popular rebellion, but what is the use of the Navy if there is no disaster from the Westerners? Who is willing to Paying more money is necessary to make a profit."
"Is it possible to see results in five years?"
"It may be somewhat effective."
Li Gan said no more, stretched out five fingers and said: "Five years. In the five-year agreement, I want to see something. No matter how much more, there is nothing I can do. Five years, not counting military pay, one million taels , If I want to be effective, I can only initiate the Wutai Poetry Case and subdue the public opinion in Shilin. Be a tyrant, and according to your crazy words, prosper the good families of the six counties, the magistrates of Wude Palace, the water masters, and the Western learning! In these five years, just do it and don't think about the rest... you. There are enough pots, no need to pollute yourself. I will see results in five years.”
Liu Yu thanked him and said, "Your Majesty, there is no need to be too alarmed."
"I understand. Now the most difficult part of the negotiation with Rakshasa is over, and the rest are all matters that the government needs to discuss. You don't have to be on duty. As I said, it's just and justified. I'm the emperor, If he is not a Yi Di chief, he cannot be used properly if his name is not correct."
"Today's matter cannot be discussed even by Duke Yi. Do you understand?" Li Gan's expression was stern than ever before. Liu Yu said yes again and again. Then Li Gan waved his hand tiredly and said, "Okay, you can go on your own. Let’s think carefully about what to do. If it doesn’t work in five years, I can only spend one million taels of money to do it.”
After thinking for a long time, Li Gan didn't know what to say.
After a long while, he actually smiled bitterly and said: "If it doesn't work... what can I do? Go, go!"
He waved his hand to drive Liu Yu away again, but Liu Yu didn't stay anymore and left to go home.
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