New Shun 1730

Dashun has huge internal market potential.

But one prerequisite is to disintegrate the small peasant economy or complete land reform, even if it is a variant of the well-field system envisioned by ancient Confucianists such as Yan Xizhai and Li Gangzhu.

Otherwise, most people either have no consumption power and are lucky to be alive; or they are self-sufficient and can spin and use basic cloth and clothes for themselves.

Otherwise, Dashun has nearly a quarter of the world's population, and Liu Yu doesn't have to go to great lengths to find European and American markets.

Who will be fattened by Niu Er's approach?

Coffee and spices are all for the European market. With such a big pie, the emperor can eat a big bite, and the nobles can also eat a little, and the rest are the big businessmen.

If they are fattened, they can make money without lying down, but I'm afraid it will become like the Netherlands.

Commercial capital should be subordinate to industrial capital, otherwise it will not promote change.

Just like the merchants in the capital region of Shaanxi and Shanxi who have made a fortune by facing Mongolia in recent years, they have strong capital, but they do not want to mine coal or engage in wool textile, but lend money at high interest rates and hoard land.

Moreover, the bulk of the commercial profits in Nanyang must be taken by the emperor and nobles.

In fact, in Liu Yu's view, it is enough to take a little, and it is better to make Nanyang a huge consumer market.

Carry out a violent and rapid land reform based on the Java land reform that the British envisioned but did not do in history.

First, as an outsider, Dashun does not need to consider the attitude of the local big families and feudal aristocrats, just kill them. They would never dare to do so in Dashun.

Second, in fact, directly linking the labor of farmers with their income can greatly promote production efficiency. They can earn less and suppress prices less, so that farmers can make money, and they will naturally plant coffee, rice, indigo, etc. for the market.

Third, it is to disintegrate the local primitive economy and village land system, so that Nanyang has millions of people with certain consumption power. Selling cotton cloth, glass, ironware, etc. can fully promote the development of Dashun industry.

Everyone talks about primitive accumulation. Take the Netherlands for example. They have accumulated enough, but the result of excessive accumulation is that commercial capital squeezes out industrial capital.

And does Dashun lack silver? Since the Ming Dynasty, silver black holes have flowed into Dashun from silver mines in America, Japan, and Austria. Do the wealthy merchants of Dashun lack start-up funds for industry? Do they lack a large number of landless farmers flowing into the city?

What they lack is not these, but the market.

Primitive accumulation has been completed since the middle of the Ming Dynasty, sitting at home; Dashun does not need to engage in enclosure movement at all, so will Dashun lack cheap labor? Britain has carried out enclosure movement for a hundred years, forcing the absolute number of landless farmers to buy land. Is it comparable to the landlords after a Yellow River flood?

No matter how rich a village head in Java is, he can only wear clothes, set a table of porcelain, and use an iron pot. They have consumption power, but their number is too small to support a huge market.

One of the so-called dual missions of the colonists is to transform the colonies according to the needs of the mother country. Break down everything old and replace it with new,

Put it in Nanyang, that is, what is Dashun's demand? Or further, what does Dashun want to become?

The Dutch are commercial capital that completely killed industrial capital, so the Dutch hope to transform Java into a simple commodity production area.

But how many people are there in the Netherlands? An Amsterdam Stock Exchange, an East India Company, and a West India Company are enough to make the Netherlands rich.

The biggest possibility of Dashun doing this is that the money earned from business has nowhere to go, either buying land or lending.

Investing in plantations, the market for spices and sugar has become saturated; the premise of large-scale cotton planting is the development of the textile industry. In fact, after taking Nanyang, Dashun will not be able to use up the cotton produced by the old Indian system for the time being.

Capital must be guided to flow to industry. The profit-seeking nature of capital means that a major premise is that investment in industry must make money; the special national conditions of Dashun make it possible for industry to make money, but before capital grows up, it cannot cause a huge impact on Dashun's internal small peasant economy.

Then we can only look for external markets.

Liu Yu did not directly deny Niu Er's statement. He also knew that his idea was difficult to implement, much more difficult than Niu Er's idea.

So he asked as calmly as possible: "Isn't the policy you implemented in the Burangan area good? Before, you couldn't trade with the Dutch, and the Dutch monopolized trade, so the people were self-sufficient in growing food and the like."

"Now the court has replaced the Dutch. The land policy you implemented in the volcano area allows farmers to plant whatever they want. Plant whatever makes money. Basically, it doesn't affect our selling goods to Europe to make money."

Niu Er nodded, then shook his head.

"Marquis Jing, you should know better than me. How many people are there in the Burangan area? How many officers did the Privy Council throw to the Guiyi Army? These officers from the Jinghai Palace and Wude Palace are both civil and military, and the ratio is too high. It is not difficult to deal with such a high ratio of officials with those few birdmen in the Burangan area."

"But if we really want to do this in the whole Java, how many people will be needed? Secondly, I am afraid that there will be huge conflicts with the local middle and upper classes."

Liu Yu nodded and said, "Of course I understand this. But what I mean is that if you take too big a step, it is easy to get into trouble. But you can't think about not taking a step."

"Is it possible to carry out two models? Carry out land reform in Batavia, Cirebon, Semarang, Perangan and other places where we are powerful and have complete control."

"And in some remote areas, let's do what you said first. Wait ten or eight years to deepen the control there, and then push them down?"

"I'm not saying that I'm against you doing this, I'm saying that it's okay to do it, but it definitely shouldn't be regarded as the end. It can be used as a transition, but the transition policy should pave the way for the follow-up, rather than find ways to make it perfect and fixed. "

"As you said, granting those village heads the power to completely dominate the villagers. I think this is completely intended to make the system fixed and cannot be changed."

"In my opinion, it is not very necessary. As a transition, you can temporarily use local middlemen to control areas where the rule is weak; however, you cannot think of it once and for all, thinking that this is good, and try every means to perfect this variant of serfdom. You Do you understand what I mean?"

Niu Er frowned, thought for a moment, and didn't nod immediately.

"Marquis Jing, since the question is what is the purpose of going to Nanyang? I think it is for money in the short term; in the long term it is to increase the number of Tang people in Nanyang and alleviate the contradiction between man and land."

"The key here is that the Javanese policy is only related to money, because the Javanese are not Tang people. I think, if I understand correctly, since it is only related to money, there seems to be no need to make such trouble."

Liu Yudao: "Yes, it is related to money. But money also has different meanings."

"Exhausting the lake to catch fish is different from planting trees and breaking off branches."

"What the Dutch do is just to catch all the money they can get."

"With such a good foundation, the Netherlands' wool textile industry used to be unstoppable. Ever since the previous dynasty drove the British away from Nanyang during the Tianqi Period, he had the final say in the entire Nanyang. As a result, the country's wool textile industry was ruined. It’s basically closed down. Isn’t this nonsense?”

"As long as the Dutch can make the people in Southeast Asia afford fabrics, can the Dutch woolen factories close down? You said that in Europe, there are the British "Navigation Regulations", France's high tariff policy, and Spanish colonies prohibiting other countries. Trade Bill…”

"In Nanyang, there is nothing and no one can care about it!"

"The Swedes were forcibly detained by the Dutch even if they sold any goods, the British had no temper at all and could only stab them in the back, the French were driven away by the locals in Siam, and the Spanish cowered in Luzon and did not dare to show their faces. With such good conditions, there is no competition from others in selling goods, and it can wipe out the country’s industry, don’t you think it’s ridiculous?”

"At the end of the day, I mean, money, of course, has to be earned."

"But how to make money?"

"The best way is to let the people of Java grow coffee, indigo, cotton, and rice. Then, sell these things for money. Then, use the money to buy our cotton cloth, tea, sugar, rice wine, glass, Ironware."

"You understand, there is absolutely no problem. In the short term, it is for money, and in the long term, it is for the Tang people to travel to Southeast Asia."

"But you are wrong about your understanding of money. For the country, the purpose is to mobilize money and give people something to do."

"The Holy Emperor loves money, who doesn't love money? Lovely money is not about guarding mountains of gold and silver. It's like looking at beautiful women every day, and is satisfied with her beauty and delicious food."

"Use the money to fight wars, build water conservancy projects, and build river embankments; or, let the money move so that more landless people can do something to earn a living."

"For example, if one million pieces of cloth can be sold every year in Java in the future, will at least tens of thousands of people in the country have work to do and will not starve to death?"

"For example, in the future, people in Java will be able to buy some sugar during festivals. Then in the sugar factory in Batavia, will the Black Shirt Party be rampant and cause unemployment?"

Niu Er suddenly realized that it was not difficult for him to understand this problem due to the influence of previous subtle indoctrination.

But after thinking about it, he patted his head and said: "Jinghou, although the population of Java is large, it can't be compared with that of China. Isn't it far behind? If the people of China can buy sweets during the holidays, let alone Batavia. One hundred sugarcane departments, even if there are twice as many, that won’t be a problem.”

Liu Yu laughed and said: "Nonsense, if I have this ability, why should I always think about things overseas? I don't have the ability, so I have to think about things outside. Do you have this ability? Can you think of how to solve it? What's wrong with the country? Tell me."

Niu Er twitched his mouth and consciously made a mistake. He lowered his head and said, "I don't know where we can go, Marquis Jing. Then I understand. I probably know everything about Java."