New Shun 1730
Chapter 833: Sino-Dutch Friendship (Part 2)
Anthony's keen political sense allowed him to seize the opportunity.
He certainly had no political future, and the Dutch would not accept him in power: this was a matter of face. If Anthony came to power, all those who opposed him would feel as if they were fools; but if it was not Anthony who came to power, but the rest of the parliamentary party, everyone would accept it on the surface - we were not against the parliamentary party's policy towards France, we were only against the speaker at the beginning, so we were right.
If the regent party could come to power, the Anthony family would still have a chance.
His teacher, the former speaker, was the nephew of the speaker who was skinned alive.
He was a politician, a pure politician, without so much hatred caused by emotions. Regarding the matter of Dashun going to Southeast Asia, he would show anger or indifference as needed, and say one thing to one person and another to another. This is the basic quality of politicians in the United Provinces Parliament.
Obviously, the Chinese must have some purpose.
As for what the purpose is, the choice is in your hands anyway. If it is really feasible, of course you can try it.
If not, then refuse.
Anyway, the Regents have been tricked by the Dashun group once. Now that the Regents are not in power, they can't come up with the means to incite public opinion to get the Regents out of power.
Just like the attitude of the Netherlands towards the Nanyang issue at this time, the mentality of the Regent leader Anthony at this time is very relaxed: those who are barefoot are not afraid of those who wear shoes.
The mentality is completely different from the last time Liu Yu came. Last time, Anthony really didn't dare to offend Liu Yu, and could only say good words and diplomatic rhetoric, because the Netherlands has huge interests in East Asia; now that he has nothing, he is afraid of nothing, and he stands up straight, which is very different from the last mentality.
Seeing Anthony so "sensible", Kang Budai threw the papers on the table that recorded the whole process of the Hague Massacre aside casually.
This thing is useful and useless.
When there is no political force in the Netherlands trying to use it, it is just a piece of waste paper.
The war was launched for all sorts of bizarre reasons, and 70,000 to 80,000 people died in Europe in a year, but no one questioned it. Only a dozen people died now. If there were no internal factions fanning the flames, it would not have caused much trouble.
"Mr. Speaker, you are actually a smart man. I agree with your view on the future of the Netherlands."
"The colonies of the Netherlands... well, of course, they are gone now. There is no need to consider this."
"The Netherlands has a small territory, developed commerce, expensive labor, high prices, and no pasture land in France, let alone materials provided by North America in the United Kingdom. The handicraft industry in the Netherlands cannot develop. This point was mentioned to me by Jing Hou a long time ago, and you have the same view as him."
"So, if the Netherlands has a future, it must rely on the financial industry and business. Let's talk about the financial industry first. If the Netherlands wants to lend money, with an annual interest rate of 8%, are they willing to lend money to Dashun?"
Anthony did not think Dashun needed to borrow money.
He felt that Kang Budai was just testing the attitude of the Netherlands towards Dashun and whether it would remember the hatred of going to Southeast Asia.
"Sir, for businessmen, they will lend money to whoever pays interest. Even if you have a grudge against me and you shot me, but I didn't die and got up again. As long as you give me enough interest and guarantee to repay, I can still lend you money."
"This is the business thinking of the Netherlands."
"Do you think that the hatred of France, which forced the Republic to dig up the levee and use water instead of soldiers, is better than your country's robbing of colonies? But now, France still owes us a debt of 30 million guilders and pays interest on time during the war, even though we are now at war."
"With an interest rate of 8%, a large amount and sufficient credibility of the country, it can certainly be borrowed. With your credibility, no one will think that your government will go bankrupt and cannot pay back the money."
"Especially after your country took over Southeast Asia, with huge real estate, no one will doubt your country's ability to repay."
"Moreover, Dutch law does not prohibit the export of gold and silver."
"It's just that, considering the first cooperation, some collateral may be needed. But... your country may not have collateral. ”
At this point, Anthony waved his hands and said, "I am not doubting your country's wealth. Rather, the collateral itself needs to be within our control. For example, if your country mortgages Southeast Asia to us, theoretically, we can borrow 200 million guilders."
"But this is a meaningless collateral. If your country does not pay back the money, can we take back Southeast Asia?"
Kang Budai said hurriedly, "Yes. That's the truth. Liu Bei borrowed Jingzhou, but he didn't return it. If he couldn't take it back, even if it was a promissory note, it would be useless."
After telling this story with a smile and easing the atmosphere, Kang Budai said, "I think the most suitable collateral is still trade and customs."
"Now the whole of Europe is tightening import trade. Only the Netherlands is likely to open trade. If the Netherlands opens trade, this itself is an excellent collateral."
"If we don't pay back the money, you will close the trade, and we will have to pay back the money, right?"
Anthony saw that Kang Budai finally revealed his original purpose, and thought to himself that it was indeed trade! He talked about this issue in Amsterdam that year, and now he is raising it again.
Moreover, this statement is also very shameless.
Thinking of this, Anthony immediately interrupted Kang Budai's words.
"Sir, what you mean is: your country wants to borrow money, and in order to facilitate your country to borrow money, we should open up trade?"
"Is this the logic? Is the Netherlands opening up trade to make it easier for China to borrow money?"
Kang Busha nodded sincerely.
"That's right. Large-scale lending is a business in itself. I think the financiers in your country must be looking forward to it very much. After all, the annual interest rate is 8%, and it is a loan from a powerful country with absolute solvency."
"Think about it, you have so much capital that within a few years, you created the Mississippi Bubble and the South Sea Bubble. It shows that your money is all being held back and has nowhere to spend it. Either go to war or lend it to the king, but the interest is not Very high?"
"The interest rate on the bonds of the East India Company is only average, about 6%, right? It may not be less. Aren't there a group of people rushing to buy it?"
"Since it is said that the future of the Netherlands only lies in the financial industry and business, then am I not going to help you find a way out? For the two industries, find a way out for the financial industry first. And this way can also save the Netherlands. business. Killing two birds with one stone is related to the future of the Netherlands, isn’t it?
Although Kang Buluo doesn't fully understand the logic of business, he more or less understands that the so-called financial industry is supposed to beg others to lend money.
Otherwise, how can money make money?
Therefore, taking the initiative to borrow money itself is helping the Dutch financial industry. There seems to be nothing wrong with that.
Anthony thought for a while. Although it was still unknown whether Dashun would lend money, the annual interest rate of 8% was indeed not low, enough to make Dutch financiers quite excited.
The interest rate in the Netherlands is the lowest in the world because the Netherlands has accumulated too much wealth and there is no investment direction in the country. Good investment directions are all monopoly companies, and those who get on board first have already welded the door shut.
The statutory interest rate in the UK is currently 5%.
Britain and Dashun are different.
The legal interest rate set by the British is based on a purely commercial perspective: the legal interest rate should be higher than the average social interest rate. Only in this way can social funds be effectively absorbed. Otherwise, who will buy national debt? After doing sufficient research and inspection, of course it was not 5% at the beginning, but it dropped from 10% over a hundred years.
As for Dashun or Daming, the statutory maximum interest rate introduced here was not for the purpose of buying national debt from the beginning, but to curb the interest on private loans and prevent it from being too high, so it is lower than the social average interest rate.
The starting points are fundamentally different, which leads to the fact that one is higher than the average and the other is lower than the average when they all know the social average interest rate.
But in essence, the material basis of society is different, which leads to a 5% interest rate, which is still higher than the social average interest rate; a 36% rate, and various folk policies such as "nine out and thirteen returns" Such tricks.
In other words, if Dashun introduces the highest interest rate for the purpose of raising national debt, then this interest rate should be higher than the social average interest rate after conducting a social survey, which is about 50%. Only in this way can the idle funds of the society be raised, but in fact, the 50% interest rate cannot be repaid anyway, unless the Li family can raise money and money. Not to mention the current Dashun, even the prosperous United States in the future cannot afford to borrow national debt with 50% interest.
British government bonds are what the Dutch like to buy most. Because the credit is good and the interest rate is not low, 5% a year is quite high.
But as the saying goes, comparing people with others will lead to death, and comparing goods with goods will lead to throwing away. If they could provide an average annual interest rate of 8%, Dutch financiers would certainly be happy.
As long as there is collateral.
It is true that the Dutch financiers were not stupid when they mortgaged Southeast Asia to the Dutch financiers: If I really don’t pay back the money, can I really go to the Forbidden City to get Southeast Asia back?
Well, since there is none, let's create a collateral.
Is it useful for Dashun to get a loan? It should be said that it is still useful. The court borrows money and then lends it. The money is borrowed at 8% interest and loaned out at 12%.
Dutch financiers shouted that Dashun is our best partner.
The people shouted that the imperial court was truly benevolent and righteous.
Once the hand is turned over, wouldn't this have achieved the real purpose of Wang Jinggong's Green Seed Law? Lending money with interest.
Or carry out currency reform, which also requires a large amount of reserves in the early stage.
Immediately afterwards, Kang Busao talked to Anthony about the most important thing.
"A few years ago, when Lord Whale came to Amsterdam, your country refused to open up trade. In fact, I can understand it."
"I really understand. After opening up trade, what will the shareholders of the East India Company do? They rely on administrative monopoly power to obtain excess profits. Of course, the Netherlands is opposed to opening up trade."
"Therefore, in order to remove the obstacles in Sino-Dutch relations, to better develop relations with the Netherlands, and for the future of the Dutch people, the King did not hesitate to use the power of his motherland to wipe out Nanyang, bankrupt the East India Company, and wipe out Sino-Dutch relations. obstacles.”
"The King of Whales is the one who truly loves the Netherlands. At least, more than most Dutch people."
"Now that the East India Company has gone bankrupt and Nanyang has been conquered by China, there is no obstacle to the friendship between China and the Netherlands, and there will be a bright future."
"You said that, right?"
Anthony was stunned.
I couldn't say a word for a long while.
So, was it for the sake of Sino-Dutch friendship that Dashun sailed to Nanyang and bankrupted the East India Company?
"Uh...this, this..."
Kang Bunuo smiled and said: "Actually, this is the truth. If you still have the ability to take back Nanyang, this will create hatred between the two countries; but if you don't have the ability to take back Nanyang, this will clear up the friendship between the two countries. Obstacle."
"Will you hate the British because New Amsterdam was renamed New York?"
"No, it is precisely because New Amsterdam was renamed New York that you can form a close alliance with the British and fight against France together."
"If New York was still called New Amsterdam, could you form an alliance with Britain?"
"Isn't it the same reason?"
"You said you occupied Southeast Asia and we have the ability to rob it. How can there be no hatred? Can the relationship between the two countries be good? Look, why don't we hate you for having a colony in Suriname? Because we don't have the ability to rob it. Right?"
"When the Celestial Empire didn't have the ability to go to Southeast Asia, wasn't the relationship between China and the Netherlands good? You even offered to help the Celestial Empire attack Macau."
"Now , you are also unable to take back Nanyang, and the two countries have a basis for cooperation. "
"Moreover, when Jing Hou came to Amsterdam a few years ago, the East India Company was still there, so you refused to open trade. Jing Hou understood you very well, and after returning, he praised you, saying that the Dutch are smart people and know where the benefits are. So, he went back and quickly removed this obstacle. "
"Now, the East India Company is bankrupt. Your Dutch textile and sugar industries have long been finished. There is no competition between the Celestial Empire and the Netherlands, so why don't you open trade? "
"As the former Speaker of the Senate, can you give me a rational reason for refusal? "
"Tell me, what are the obstacles between the two countries? As long as you tell us, we will solve them. Just like going to Nanyang. "
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