Traveled through Daming, but was punished by the old Zhu Shizu

Is the end of all things really theology?

Liu Xiu couldn't help thinking deeply.

Lao Zhu looked at Song Zan with both eyes. Liu Xiu felt something strange and moved slightly. Was he angry seeing Lao Zhu like this?

If Lao Zhu blamed Song Zan, would he be able to save him?

Liu Xiu just wanted to open his mouth to ease the atmosphere, only to hear Lao Zhu also sighed and agreed,

"Mr. Song's words are very true. It suddenly occurred to us that the demise of various dynasties was caused by natural disasters and man-made disasters. If it weren't for a severe drought that has not happened in decades at the end of the Yuan Dynasty, our parents would not starve to death..."

Liu Xiu breathed a sigh of relief, and after thinking about it, it is really impossible for Lao Zhu to be so narrow-minded.

Just because Song Zan said something he didn't like to hear, Song Zan was going to be killed,

Anyway, during the Hongwu period, Lao Zhu didn't mind everyone talking and expressing opinions. Even if the people had any dissatisfaction with officials, they could go directly to Datian to listen.

This is something that many emperors failed to do.

Seeing Lao Zhu agreeing, Liu Xiu didn't quite agree with what Song Zan said.

From the point of view, it is true that natural and man-made disasters often occur in the last years of a dynasty, but this is the result, not the cause.

But Song Zan took this as the cause, and thus deduced that the dynasty's demise was the result.

In fact, prosperity is not vigorous, and death is not sudden.

There are historical laws in it.

"Sir, I disagree with your statement," Xu Da said in a deep voice.

Song Zan bowed slightly with a humble look of asking for advice, "I also ask Master Xu for advice."

Old Zhu raised his eyebrows and laughed loudly, "Come on, Tiande, let us hear what you think."

Xu Da scratched his head and said, "Your Majesty, I haven't read so many books, so maybe I'm thinking wrong..."

Lao Zhu waved his hand, "Okay, just speak up if you have something to say!"

Liu Xiu chuckled. I didn't expect that the atmosphere of Lao Zhu's small meeting was pretty good.

Only such a relaxed atmosphere can collide with more inspirations,

However, Liu Xiu would not directly intervene in this way. All the people present were his elders. It would be too much for a junior to be so impolite.

Of course, the uproar during the empty printing case does not count,

At that time, your life will be gone, and you are rude, isn't that a fool?

Xu Da nodded and said, "I think that the prosperity of the dynasty lies in the soldiers."

"Oh?" Old Zhu stroked his beard, his voice undulating slightly, "Tell me carefully."

Xu Da continued, "The important affairs of the country are sacrifices and military affairs. Take Daming as an example, there are tigers and wolves around. Although the problem of the Japanese Island has been solved, the Tatars are still watching Daming's bedside, ready to take advantage of it. "

"In the northeastern region, the Jurchen tribe is not very stable. The chieftains in Yunnan are also ready to move..."

"External aggression is like this, Guo Hengan? Looking at the end of the dynasty, there are no more than two kinds, one is the invasion of foreign enemies, and the other is internal chaos, and no matter which one, if there are soldiers, it can be suppressed."

"These soldiers are not ordinary people, but people who are skilled in many battles. As long as the Siyi is pacified, why not worry about the fate of the Ming Dynasty?"

Old Zhu nodded when he heard the words, "What you said makes sense."

Song Zan shook his head with a smile, "Master Xu, I don't agree with what you said."

Old Zhu sat cross-legged on the couch, with his hands on his lap, looking like a big horse with a golden knife. Seeing Song Zan and Xu Da choking, Lao Zhu turned his head to look at Song Zan again,

Seeing Lao Zhu's appearance, Liu Xiu couldn't help thinking,

Old Zhu, you really don't think it's a big deal to watch the excitement!

Chapter 283 History Cycle Theory

Song Zan looked confident, and compared to him, Xu Da was simply an illiterate old man.

Song Zan asked, "May I ask Mr. Xu, if the number of troops can determine everything, then why did King Wen of Zhou conquer Shang, Sun Liu defeated Cao Cao in Chibi, Fu Jian hated the Eastern Jin Dynasty, and His Majesty defeated Poyang Lake?"

Xu Da's expression froze, and he said, "I'm not saying that the number of troops determines everything, and I didn't say that the more soldiers the better, I think that Daming needs elite soldiers, and the government soldiers are not elite enough. , the world will be settled in all directions!"

Liu Xiu heard the words and secretly said in her heart,

My father-in-law has not yet understood the key to the Fubing system. It can be said that the fundamental starting point of the Fubing system is not to raise soldiers, but a system of combining soldiers and farmers.

To put it plainly, the biggest purpose of the Fubing system is to solve the problem of employment.

To save these vigorous young people from having nothing to do, so that they cause trouble every day, and under the government, they can still contribute some strength to Daming,

The elite soldiers of the Ming Dynasty are only in the central capital and the border areas, and the rest of the inland government soldiers may have never held a weapon in their entire lives, so how can we talk about their combat effectiveness?

My father-in-law is going in the wrong direction from the beginning!

Song Zan continued to retort, "Then Master Xu wants to raise soldiers?"

Xu Da paused, unable to think of how to express his thoughts for a while, so he could only say, "It's raising soldiers."

In the end, I still don't forget to emphasize, "It is to raise elite soldiers!"

Song Zan said, "Then Master Xu, do you know the consequences of the Song Dynasty's raising soldiers? The soldiers can neither fight nor cut, and they dragged down the Song Dynasty alive."

Xu Da was stunned. In terms of knowledge reserve and eloquence, he was far behind Song Zan, and besides, he couldn't understand his point of view.

He could only look down and shut up.

Lao Zhu patted Xu Da on the shoulder and laughed loudly, "Oh Tiande, you are so stupid with your mouth!"

Three black lines appeared on Xu Da's forehead, looking speechless.

In fact, Liu Xiu understood what Xu Da wanted to express.

In modern terms,

What Xu Da agrees with is that truth only exists within the range of the cannon.

However, there is a problem,

Xu Da's ideas are too advanced,

Famous and famous super armies in history, such as Huben Army, Siege Camp, Saturday Division, etc.,

They all have one thing in common!

That is, these super armies are all armies controlled by princes in troubled times.

But under the rule of the world, all elite soldiers have only one destination,

Forbidden army in the palace.

As an emperor, how could it be possible for elite soldiers to be in the hands of generals?

So Xu Da's idea is completely impossible to realize, at least, it is impossible in the feudal dynasty!

Moreover, the military system of the feudal dynasty was not designed to train elite soldiers.

The lesson of the separatist regime in the Tang Dynasty is enough to come once.

Liu Xiu secretly observed Lao Zhu's expression. Anyway, he didn't see anything unusual. What the old man said was out of a fair heart, but it's hard to guarantee that Lao Zhu would think too much.

To achieve the position of the emperor is to be alone, and Lao Zhu has no choice but to think about it.

However, Lao Zhu has never touched Xu Da, giving the goose is too artistic, Liu Xiu prefers that Xu Da died of a normal illness.

Song Zan also felt that he was a little too aggressive and did not conform to the style of a gentleman, so he looked at Xu Da and said embarrassedly,

"Master Xu, please forgive me."

Xu Da waved his hand to indicate that it's okay, he's used to being bullied by Xu Miaoyun at home, Xu Da wouldn't be so anxious if someone else said a few words,

Besides, what Song Zan said was also very reasonable. Raising soldiers is really expensive.

However, among the few present, Xu Da and Song Zan couldn't see Liu Xiu's level at all. Daming didn't have elite soldiers, but the elite soldiers were all in the capital, and Lao Zhu would not allow locals to raise elite soldiers.

That's the point.

This height, in the world, probably only Lao Zhu and Liu Xiu can see it clearly.

Lao Zhu can see through because he is in the highest position in the world in space,

And Liu Xiu can see through because he is in the farthest position of Ming Dynasty in terms of time,

Liu Xiu's thoughts are just thinking, if there is.To directly publicize Lao Zhu's little thoughts here is purely courting death!

Also, Liu Xiu suddenly understood why Lao Zhu attached great importance to these Confucian scholars...

Because of…

"Shi'er."

Liu Xiu's thoughts were abruptly interrupted by Zhu Yuanzhang. Liu Xiu came back to his senses and replied,

"His Majesty."

All three eyes focused on Liu Xiu for a moment, Lao Zhu smiled and said,

"We see that your butt can't sit still for a long time. Come, tell us what you think."

Xu Da and Song Zan immediately turned their expressions subconsciously back, it was really because Liu Xiu had said too many amazing words,

They are also looking forward to what Liu Xiu will say next,

And Lao Zhu's real intention is also here, Lao Zhu and Xu Da Song Zan have been in contact for a long time, and their views have long been guessed by Lao Zhu.

It can be said that there is nothing new.

Xu Da and Song Zan were just the ones that Lao Zhu brought out to attract others. In fact, what he wanted to know more was Liu Xiu's thoughts.

Liu Xiu said in a deep voice, "Your Majesty, I don't think that his prosperity is not booming, and his death is not sudden."

Liu Xiu's opening words shook everyone's spirits, and even the slightest sleepiness was swept away.

He directly negated Lao Zhu from the proposition, and he also negated the sages,

You must know that this sentence was not made up by Lao Zhu, but actually came from the Confucian classics of the Spring and Autumn Period.

The Liu family said that this sentence is wrong, what is it if it does not humiliate the sages?

Fortunately, the three people in the house are all elders who admire Liu Xiu very much. If Liu Sanwu was here, I'm afraid they would have to jump right away.