Rebirth: It’s Like Flowing Water

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This topic came to an abrupt end amid Tang Xiaoyi's indignant cursing.

After that, everyone knew that it was a bit too heavy, so they chatted some light life gossip in a tacit understanding to ease the atmosphere.

Master Tuo stayed here all afternoon, and called Qi Lei out before leaving. The two murmured for a while, not knowing what they said.

Tang Xiaoyi vaguely listened to a few words, as if it was because of the topic he talked about before.

When it was time to get off work, Master Tuo went back to the get off work unit and met Lao Qin at the door of the work unit.

There is still a little tail left in the matter of clothing. The last step is to let down jackets bring more surface, pull the added value of the clothing industry across the country, and use Chinese color matching and Chinese aesthetics to empower the industry.

But if you don't need Qi Lei, you don't need Tuo Ye. The idiots in the back will do it. Tuo Ye has already paved the way.

To talk about Tuoye's chicken thieves and insidiousness, it is far more than what he has seen. The reason why we have to use the form of joint money is to introduce the concept of foundry later. When Lagerfeld's fall conference begins, the next step of publicity can be launched.

As soon as China catches a large number of garment enterprises that do OEM for foreign trade, it depends on whether they can seize the opportunity and drive on the fast lane.

At that time, there will be another wave of overwhelming communication offensives, taking the opportunity to create opportunities for domestic clothing brands.

The only regret is that, no matter how well Qi Lei and Tuo Ye did, they could not complete the upgrading of the garment industry and bring too many benefits to ordinary garment workers.

In 2003, China still lacked confidence, relying on cheap labor to play a good role in international trade. When the labor cost of workers goes up, the foreign capital will also go away, and the loss will be even greater.

Thinking of this, Master Tuo couldn't help thinking of Qi Lei's current predicament. In fact, it was the same problem at the root.

Insufficient confidence!

The semiconductor industry is not clothing, you can borrow a point to achieve breakthroughs, but not in this industry.

Without a good foundation, everything is empty talk.

Taking back his thoughts, he greeted Lao Qin with a smile.

Master Tuo is not like Qi Lei, Qi Lei is thoughtful, but he has a good temperament, and his emotions and anger towards his own people are written on his face, so it is easy to give people the illusion that he is a good boy.

But Mr. Tuo's temperament is stable, no matter who he is, he doesn't show his heart very much.

Although I feel a little panic in my heart, it will not be brought into the communication with others, and it will always be indifferent.

"Brother Li."

Lao Qin locked the car, saw Ma Tuo, and took the initiative to care: "How is it? Are you still getting used to it?"

Since Master Tuo came to Lao Qin, Lao Qin has not arranged specific work for him, for fear that he will not adapt to it.

It's hard to pull in a "dirty" one, this is the future brain of the department, and it must be provided well.

Master Tuo smiled and replied, "It's all good."

As soon as Lao Qin heard this, "it's fine!"

Glancing at his watch, "it's almost time, go home after get off work! Young people don't learn from us, you need some personal space."

Then he added, "It's okay, when we are not busy, there is still some flexibility in time, and there is not so much emphasis."

After speaking, he went into the building by himself, which meant that Ma Tuo could leave.

But Master Tuo still smiled, "Brother Li, are you free?"

Old Qin walked slowly, "What? Is there something wrong?"

Master Tuo, "I have something to discuss with you."

Lao Qin waved his hand, "Then come to my office!"

When he arrived at Lao Qin's office, he asked Ma Tuo to sit casually. Lao Qin poured two glasses of water and handed him a glass, "What's the matter? Tell me!"

Suddenly, the sheep's dress was serious and half-joking: "But the ugly words are ahead. If you want to run now, I don't agree!"

Although it was a joke, it also reflected Lao Qin's true state of mind.

As for Ma Tuo, Lao Qin has not been in contact with him for a day or two. With his ability, he can't spend a lifetime of money. But let him flicker, and he is not at ease, for fear that Ma Tuo will regret it one day.

I have to say, Lao Qin is also quite screwed. When I didn't fudge, I was scratching my head and trying to pull in. Come on flickering, still scratching your head.

It's not solid anyway.

In response, Ma Tuo just smiled and didn't explain, "Brother Li, I want to talk to you about Teacher Xiao Qi."

When Lao Qin raised his brows, he felt a lot of peace of mind. As long as he couldn't stay, everything was easy to say.

"Stone? What happened to the stone?"

At the moment, Ma Tuo told Lao Qin about the things he talked about with Qi Lei and the problems that Qi Lei was struggling with now.

Finally, he concluded, "The problem that Mr. Qi is facing now is that there are top technologies, but these technologies are isolated islands and cannot be connected in series."

"Then the investment is very huge, and he has to consider the overall strategy of the country, and he can't let go of solving problems with business thinking."

Lao Qin listened carefully and waited for Master Tuo to finish speaking, "Then what do you mean?"

Ma Tuo, "I mean, can we think of a way to help?"

"Well..." I saw Lao Qin hesitated, drank slowly, and then nodded happily, "Help! Help for sure!"

He smiled and said, "We've been around him for a few years now, and we've come this far. How can there be any reason to stand by?"

"But the problem is..." The conversation changed, "How can I help?"

Master Tuo, "??"

Lao Qin, "To put it bluntly, it's not that we don't want to help, but we can't help for the time being!"

Master Tuo, "Why?"

Lao Qin smiled bitterly, "You think we haven't thought about these things he thought about? But it's just..."

A little twisted, "How do you say it? If he asks us to help him with tricks and steal any foreign technology, then his Uncle Bei has a duty to do whatever he wants with over a hundred pounds."

"But this matter in front of you is different from the previous one, so it's not easy to deal with!"

The issues that Qi Lei was worried about, Lao Qin and the people in his department, including the senior leaders, have long thought of it. Even one or two years in advance, the current situation is rehearsed, looking for a solution to the problem.

Nuo is a big Chinese. Qi Lei is not the only one who is capable, nor is he the only one fighting for this country. Lao Qin already wants to be ahead of Qi Lei in many things.

Including, how to use advanced technology and how to play a role.

However, as Qi Lei is now distressed, this matter is too complicated and not easy to handle.

"Xiao Ma!" Old Qin Chang sighed, "Do you know? Not only did he Qi Shishio alone in Beiguang looking for answers, but in fact, many ministries and commissions have been organizing expert discussions, and hundreds of people are trying to find a solution. Eucalyptus."

"But the problem is that we have no experience to learn from, we are walking in the dark, and we haven't found the right path yet."

This is the crux of the problem. What Qi Lei is doing has been completely divorced from the word "experience" since a long time ago.

Probably starting from the "insight model", his behavior trajectory has no experience to learn from.

So that he got back the arm like a white wolf with empty gloves, and established the North American Three Stones with Paulson, and now Asmar and tokki are completely unexpected, and it is completely unclear how he got it back.

He really caught himself off guard.

So far, there are still upper-level people who feel unreal, how can arm become ours?

Outsiders, or from the perspective of twenty years later, is it not normal for him to be able to do this step after being reborn?

However, from the perspective of people of this era, it is not normal at all.

This is as absurd as a naughty son from an ordinary family suddenly swindling a tank from an overseas arms dealer for no money, and it is the most advanced kind.

You ask dad how to do this thing? Dad has never driven, he has never seen it, what's going on?

Therefore, Lao Qin also wants to know what to do now after holding these technological peaks and technological islands, and how to maximize the benefits.

But the problem is that, after searching carefully at home and abroad, no reference can be found.

Without experience, you have to be cautious. If you can't take a shot at your own house, you will not take advantage of it, but will suffer a big loss.

"Many people are discussing it now, and there is no result yet."

When Tuoye heard this, he nodded.

After pondering for a while, he suddenly said, "Brother Li, can I try it?"

"Um?"

Lao Qin was stunned for a moment, then he was happy, "Okay! Do you have an idea?"

I saw that Master Tuo pushed his glasses in embarrassment, "Later, I communicated with Teacher Xiao Qi again. I had some ideas at the time, which just matched some of his ideas."

"How do you say it? It's more complicated, and Teacher Xiao Qi has neither the energy nor the ability to realize this idea."

"I thought about it all the way when I came back, maybe we can try."

"It just so happens that I'm free too, do you want me to try it?"

Lao Qin, "Okay!"

Tuo Ye can find something to do by himself, which is a good thing, I can't run away for the time being!

Besides, a dead horse is a living horse doctor! Anyway, so many experts are still scratching their heads. As long as it is not in the implementation stage, it will not be bad or bad.

"Tell me first, what are your thoughts?"

When Ma Tuo saw Lao Qin's support, he was also heartbroken, "I can't tell you the specific details yet. Teacher Xiao Qi is just an idea. In a nutshell..."

Lao Qin, "Don't be awkward! Just say it boldly!"

Ma Tuo, "Okay! In my opinion, the problem is not as serious as imagined. Since we can't find experience from the West, we might as well start from the national conditions and use our own resources and advantages to fight a tough battle."

Lao Qin Yizhi said, "You mean, don't ask for help, do it yourself? Localization of the entire industry chain?"

Ma Tuo's eyes were firm, "Yes! Don't ask for help, do it yourself!"

"This..." Lao Qin hesitated.

As I said before, things like lithography machines and evaporation machines belong to the category of "small and refined".

In other words, the scale is not large, but the technical foundation and investment required are not much at all.

Hundreds of billions of dollars are thrown into it, and it will become the number one in the world. The business will be done by you, and it will be a return of several billions of dollars a year.

In fact, this is the reason why Qi Lei, including Lao Qin and the experts behind him hesitated, the money invested would never be returned.

Moreover, the national conditions do not allow you to spend so much.

It's a bit like the very popular ballpoint pen roller ball in later generations. Everyone is scolding, "Even a nib roller ball has to be imported, what is the technological development?" But that thing is not so logical!

The world uses so many tons a year, what are you doing with it?

It's a money-losing business.

Now if the national production of lithography machines and evaporation machines, there is actually a little bit of that flavor. (2003 and 2019 are two different things)

Ma Tuo said at this time, "This matter may not be as pessimistic as we thought."

Lao Qin, "How do you say it?"

Tuo Ye, "Maybe we can use structural optimization to offset part of the cost. Maybe the final realization of localization is not necessarily a loss-making business, but it can also help us complete part of the infrastructure and talent pool."

When Lao Qin heard this, he became more interested, "Come on, talk about it!"

Master Tuo organized the language, "My thoughts are like this, you help me check."

"Take the lithography machine as an example, the final assembly, which is the key link, still has to be completed by Asmar, and let Mr. Qi find a way to realize it. Whether it is a loss or a profit is a business issue. No matter what, It won't have a big impact."

Lao Qin nodded, "What about upstream and downstream industries and raw materials?"

Many special materials and high-tech components required by lithography machines are basically "0", and they all depend on imports.

If you engage in self-research and invest a lot, it can be said that this is the big boss.

Ma Tuo, "My suggestion is to split the upstream and downstream industries of the lithography machine and material technology into several projects."

"Then, it's a matter of overall planning."

"Classify and grade these projects, and roughly divide them into high commercial value-added, low commercial value-added and no commercial added value. At the same time, high-risk projects and low-risk projects are distinguished, and then the above distinction is divided into one level, high-sensitivity projects. and low-sensitivity items.”

"Allocate projects with little commercial value to universities, research institutes, government labs, and use educational and research funding to offset costs."

"In this way, not only can the risk be greatly reduced, but also a group of targeted talents can be cultivated to complete the talent pool and infrastructure construction."

Lao Qin nodded, that's the truth.

Tuo Ye, "Low commercial value-added projects are undertaken by state-owned enterprises, and the mechanism of state-owned enterprises is used to allocate costs and optimize the structure."

As for projects with high commercial value, it is simple, "Social bidding, handed over to private enterprises. Using commercial profits to attract private capital to join the battle, the benefits are also obvious."

Old Qin listened with interest, but his expression was still serious, "Go ahead, aren't there high risks and low risks?"

Ma Tuo, "This requires the full intervention of the government. For low-risk projects, we can let it go and let it play."

"For high-risk projects, corresponding support policies can be introduced to offset some of the risks and increase the anti-risk capabilities and enthusiasm of enterprises and institutions."

Lao Qin, "What about high sensitivity and low sensitivity?"

Ma Tuo~www.readwn.com~ is highly sensitive, which means that it may trigger sensitive responses from external forces. Whether it is at the technical level or at the trade level, it is necessary to prevent upstream and downstream supporting facilities, equipment embargoes and blockades. There is nothing to say. Only on our own! "

"Low-sensitivity is another matter. Even if there is a trade conflict between the East and the West, it is unlikely to be affected by the project, then there is absolutely no need for us to do it ourselves."

"You can use projects with low commercial value and no commercial value as a condition for attracting investment and seek international cooperation."

"This is like the auto industry, which can be obtained from the outside in the form of wholly-owned capital, or in the form of market-for-technology."

After explaining his thoughts, Ma Tuo was a little embarrassed, "I haven't counted it, after all, it's just an idea. But I think this can greatly reduce the risk and cost of research and development, and it should be within the range we can afford."

"It's not impossible to do it yourself!"

Lao Qin, "..."

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