Xinshun 1730
Chapter 454
Chapter 454
Matsudaira Teruzhen was still thinking about the traps in the more than [-] conditions, which was the wrong direction.
It is not an exaggeration to say that the real trap is hidden in the benefits, but found in the conditions that are forced to be met.
So after thinking about it for a long time, except for obvious bad things like gold and silver outflows, I couldn't think of any more.
The defeat is a foregone conclusion, and the treaty must be signed. Liu Yu talked for a long time, and Songping Huizhen also heard the words "there are many people in the court who yearn for military exploits", and knew that this kind of battle loss ratio would make Dashun even more Passionate about war.
Thinking about the many conditions among them, the only thing that could bring Dashun into an unfavorable situation seemed to be the prohibition of trade with countries other than Dashun.
Except for a few countries such as North Korea and Annan, there is only one Netherlands left.
Thinking of several entrustments made by Tokugawa Yoshimune before his arrival, he asked: "Since Mr. Liu said that the southern barbarians were ambitious and locked up the country in Japan, what do you think?"
"I support the lock-up issue. Not only do I support it, but if you are a vassal, I can guarantee that if there is another Portuguese attack on Hirado, the Celestial Dynasty will not ignore it." Hearing the word lock-up, Liu Yu Immediately came the spirit.
It's like the British Navigation Act, which doesn't allow foreign ships to go to their colonies for trade.Japan is not a colony of Dashun at this time, and it has a large population and many ports, so it is not as easy to manage as the North American colonies.
This is the same thing as a trading company that must cooperate with Japan in order to have a monopoly.
Without the cooperation of Japan, Dashun's long coastline and smuggling channels would not allow it to create a monopoly trading company, nor could it create a "colony" to lock the country and support the "Navigation Regulations".
That's why Liu Yu absolutely supports the shogunate and supports the shogunate to maintain control over Japan, and the shogunate will inevitably continue to lock the country for its own rule.
"As far as I know, after Miura's death, the British business house was closed shortly after. The only thing left was the Dutch trade in Nagasaki. I also know the Dutch trade goods. The bulk is still raw silk , the remaining spices, sucrose, etc., can be replaced by the Celestial Dynasty."
"If any Western countries approach trade, the Celestial Dynasty will uphold justice. Japan has its own system here, and I know it."
"What the Celestial Empire seeks is nothing more than the fear that Japan will go astray, and even forget its ancestors in several classics, or that the Qiezhi alchemy religion will run rampant; or that it will link up with Western countries."
"Think about it, everyone, if the battle is like this, isn't the condition of the Celestial Dynasty not good enough? Isn't it enough to show the benevolence and righteousness of the Celestial Dynasty?"
"The Ezo land is desolate and uninhabited. The Raksha country is approaching in the north. How can we defend it only by Japan?"
"As for Tsushima and Yinqi, they are both small islands. The height of the Yinqi Stone is 5000, and Tsushima is only 15000 if you don't count the trade stones."
"I have already discounted the price in the compensation. If not, the emperor will be angry, and really want to occupy Kyushu Island and Changzhou Fan, wouldn't it be very difficult?"
"To tell you the truth, don't I know that there is a golden mountain in Sado? I am lonely overseas, on the island, but I don't take it. Isn't that considered sincerity?"
After threatening again, Matsudaira Huizhen remained silent.
Sado's gold mine is still several hundred catties a year, and it is indeed on the island. Japan does not have a navy, so it cannot be defended at all.Liu Yu knew it, but he didn't want to cut it off. He was really sincere.
Then he asked again: "How about opening a port?"
"It can be used as Tangjin Town in Nagasaki. It is only leased, calculated by the height of the land and stones, and the shogunate lease fee is paid every year. The merchants of the Celestial Dynasty can build warehouses, houses, etc. in various Tangjin Towns. Outside Tangjin Town, they can also be traded. The merchants of the Celestial Dynasty will also abide by the laws of Japan and will not go anywhere else at will. As for those who believe in the Qiezhidan religion, the religion is also banned in this dynasty and in Japan, and they can be disposed of together. All kinds of goods can be designated as prohibited items. And not allowed to go ashore."
Dashun has no need for preaching, or the "teaching" that can be passed on has already begun as early as the time when the Tang Dynasty envoys were sent, and now it is basically finished.
Liu Yu's request is relatively low.Anyway, the coastline maps of several sensitive areas have been drawn almost. In the future, we can find an opportunity to send someone to "help" Japan draw a map with latitude and longitude for the whole of Japan.
The treaty port is said to be similar to Tangjincho in Nagasaki, but it is different.In Tangren Town, it is closely monitored; now, in Tangren Town, Chinese businessmen can build warehouses and houses, come in and out at will, and sell goods outside.
Since Matsudaira Huizhen was the representative of the shogunate, Liu Yu simply spoke more clearly.
"The shogunate can take over the places where I have opened ports, and the occupied land can be transferred to other places. The West Kaido can be in Nagasaki; the Nankaido can be in Tosa; the Sanyin Road can be in Tosa. Yonago or Matsue Castle; Sanyo Road, you can choose Kobe west of Osaka. If you feel inappropriate, you can also choose Wakayama. These are the four places."
"The shogunate can set up customs, and collect tariffs in accordance with the agreed tariffs as the shogunate's finances."
"For one thing, the Celestial Dynasty hopes that Japan will be stable, rather than disintegrating and causing frequent wars. Therefore, the shogunate is directly under the jurisdiction and can also control the sale of goods, so as to prevent the vassals from buying guns privately."
"Secondly, governing the country is impossible without money. These tariffs belong to the shogunate, and they can also promote the words of the sages and spread the way of benevolence and righteousness. Or say: the way to build a country is to respect propriety and righteousness rather than political strategy; the fundamental plan lies in the hearts of the people. It's not about skills. Why respect etiquette and righteousness? Build temples and learn Confucianism."
"As for the last place, it's in Sendai. Why you choose this place is also for the sake of Japan."
"There are many famines in Japan. If there is another famine year, the food from the sea of whales can also enter Sendai. There is a saying that 'the rice from Edo is half out of Sendai'. Sendai is a place far away from the south of the dynasty. There is nothing to sell. It’s just food. If Japan’s national rice is cheap, it’s not profitable to sell it, and with tariffs added, there’s really no need to worry about opening this port, which will make the rice cheap and hurt the samurai’s interests; Mai, can also alleviate the famine in Japan. Here, the shogunate does not need to be directly under the jurisdiction, otherwise where will the Sendai domain be transferred?"
Although I always feel that Liu Yu's conditions are full of evil intentions.After hearing these conditions, Matsudaira Huizhen felt that what Liu Yu said seemed to be true, that Dashun was really only out of benevolence and righteousness, and also supported the stability of the shogunate.
For a moment, Songping Huizhen even wondered whether Liu Yu's attack on Japan was due to the emperor's order; and during the negotiation, there was still a trace of friendship with the general in it?
In Matsudaira Teruzhen's view, the conditions for opening the port were excellent.
Nagasaki was originally an external port, directly under the jurisdiction of the shogunate; Tosa has been completely messed up, and the shogunate's influence can also penetrate; Wakayama or Kobe are only close to Osaka, but not close to Edo.Kobe is directly under the shogunate, and Wakayama is the birthplace of Tokugawa Yoshimune.Yonago is not big, and it is only a small place now, so there is no problem in transferring the seal.
Anyway, the port must be opened, and the gold and silver must be lost. Dashun can choose these places, which can be said to be quite considerate of the mood of the shogunate.
As for Sendai, normal businessmen would not look far away.It seems to be true as Liu Yu said, there is nothing that can be sold, that is, the food of Ezo, the grain of Jinghai, etc.
However, he didn't know Dashun's plan.
The first four places are only for the convenience of trading companies to ship goods and extract the last bit of gold and silver from Japan.But the opening of Sendai is actually preparing to collude with the Sendai Fan, and it is really preparing to sell food.
Liu Yu has considered the various situations around Dashun. Immigration from Southeast Asia can only "force the people to go to sea to make a living". With Dashun's organizational skills, official immigration, corruption and forced immigration are all very important. It is impossible to cause coastal shocks and uprisings again and again.
The immigration around Jinghai can only be a semi-official and semi-civilian model, using the power of private capital as much as possible.
There is a North Korean sticking out of the wretched place around Jinghai, and the sea transportation is inconvenient, and the food grown cannot be sold.
It's like the fact that after the immigrants from the Western Regions gradually succeeded, the price of food in the Western Regions was the lowest in the country.Whale Sea is even more remote than the Western Regions. It is no problem to build a large number of self-sufficient and wealthy farmers, but if you want to implement the model of "big households contribute, poor households contribute", and use private money as much as possible for immigration and reclamation, you have to Thinking about the commercialization of grain in Whale Sea.
This is not Liaodong, but the Whale Sea, which is blocked by the Korean Peninsula for convenient shipping.The direction of the commercialization market can only focus on North Korea and Japan.
Profitable, food is not just stored at home to feed pigs and brew wine, so as to promote the emergence of the first batch of agricultural capitalists, instead of landlords who sit on the ground and collect rent and split the land into small leases.
Because of the Tsushima Warm Current, Hokkaido's climate conditions are higher than those of Vladivostok and Xingkai Lake at the same latitude.
The Koreans who have been fleeing north can already grow cold-resistant rice, and Hokkaido can also grow wheat, and the land is sparsely populated and the climate is suitable.
Unlike the current Heilongjiang coast where the grass roots are more than one meter deep and the swamps are everywhere, it is the most suitable place for the development of large-scale agriculture and breeding around the Jinghai Sea.
Japan's population will continue to grow due to the introduction of sweet potatoes. With the gradual disintegration of the feudal economy caused by the opening of the port, food prices will continue to rise.
Sendai has its own copper mines and can make money, and there are a large number of merchants operating the grain industry. Every year, half of the rice eaten by the non-samurai population in Edo comes from Sendai.
Only when profits can be made can gold and silver be invested in Hokkaido, and then non-governmental organizations can recruit immigrants for population reclamation.
This can be regarded as a century-old plan. There can be a population of one million and 10 people around Whale Sea. It is like a rope to enclose the outside first. In the future, no one will be able to take away the Northeast.
In conjunction with this, North Korea opened the land passage from Pyongyang to Wonsan, so as to ensure that a large number of people in the Huanghuai area can travel northward by sea to make a living.
Taking the Huaihe River as the line, the excess population north of the Huaihe River will either go to the Western Regions, or to Kenmeng, or to the Whale Sea.
A large number of people south of the Yangtze River were either forced to go bankrupt and go to Nanyang to reclaim Taiwan, or they went to the cities to work, weave, and transport.
Japan is not the Americas, there is no spare land for immigration, farms, and plantations; Japan is not India, the climate is not suitable for growing cotton, jute, and indigo, and it is not suitable for raw material production; Japan is not the Western Regions, there is no mature feudal social organization, Instead, there are warriors who have fiefdoms. If you really want to occupy it, it is equivalent to fighting to the death with hundreds of thousands of warriors.
The so-called those who win the hearts of the people win the world. At this time, the people of Japan are not those who eat carrots all day long, but hundreds of thousands of samurai of the ruling class.
They are not only the inextricable chains of Japan, but also lovely consumers that Dashun merchants can sell.
Considering the consumption power of the class in Japan, Liu Yu did not squeeze Japan too hard on the issue of compensation.
The existing colonial system of the Westerners is not suitable for Japan. Even if the poor are squeezed into oil, they will not be able to produce the hundreds of millions of taels of silver accumulated through hundreds of years of raw silk and tea trade; to help Japan To complete the land reform, exterminate the samurai class, increase the purchasing power of the Japanese people, and build a big market, Dashun didn't have the ability, and he still didn't understand the affairs of his own family.
Thin water flows.
Whether it is a mountain of gold or a mountain of silver, sooner or later it will be spent.The court of Dashun took too much, and the merchants would earn less in the future.Leave some gold and silver to the shogunate, and return it to the samurai. In the end, it is the industry and commerce on the Dashun side that will grow stronger.
(End of this chapter)
Matsudaira Teruzhen was still thinking about the traps in the more than [-] conditions, which was the wrong direction.
It is not an exaggeration to say that the real trap is hidden in the benefits, but found in the conditions that are forced to be met.
So after thinking about it for a long time, except for obvious bad things like gold and silver outflows, I couldn't think of any more.
The defeat is a foregone conclusion, and the treaty must be signed. Liu Yu talked for a long time, and Songping Huizhen also heard the words "there are many people in the court who yearn for military exploits", and knew that this kind of battle loss ratio would make Dashun even more Passionate about war.
Thinking about the many conditions among them, the only thing that could bring Dashun into an unfavorable situation seemed to be the prohibition of trade with countries other than Dashun.
Except for a few countries such as North Korea and Annan, there is only one Netherlands left.
Thinking of several entrustments made by Tokugawa Yoshimune before his arrival, he asked: "Since Mr. Liu said that the southern barbarians were ambitious and locked up the country in Japan, what do you think?"
"I support the lock-up issue. Not only do I support it, but if you are a vassal, I can guarantee that if there is another Portuguese attack on Hirado, the Celestial Dynasty will not ignore it." Hearing the word lock-up, Liu Yu Immediately came the spirit.
It's like the British Navigation Act, which doesn't allow foreign ships to go to their colonies for trade.Japan is not a colony of Dashun at this time, and it has a large population and many ports, so it is not as easy to manage as the North American colonies.
This is the same thing as a trading company that must cooperate with Japan in order to have a monopoly.
Without the cooperation of Japan, Dashun's long coastline and smuggling channels would not allow it to create a monopoly trading company, nor could it create a "colony" to lock the country and support the "Navigation Regulations".
That's why Liu Yu absolutely supports the shogunate and supports the shogunate to maintain control over Japan, and the shogunate will inevitably continue to lock the country for its own rule.
"As far as I know, after Miura's death, the British business house was closed shortly after. The only thing left was the Dutch trade in Nagasaki. I also know the Dutch trade goods. The bulk is still raw silk , the remaining spices, sucrose, etc., can be replaced by the Celestial Dynasty."
"If any Western countries approach trade, the Celestial Dynasty will uphold justice. Japan has its own system here, and I know it."
"What the Celestial Empire seeks is nothing more than the fear that Japan will go astray, and even forget its ancestors in several classics, or that the Qiezhi alchemy religion will run rampant; or that it will link up with Western countries."
"Think about it, everyone, if the battle is like this, isn't the condition of the Celestial Dynasty not good enough? Isn't it enough to show the benevolence and righteousness of the Celestial Dynasty?"
"The Ezo land is desolate and uninhabited. The Raksha country is approaching in the north. How can we defend it only by Japan?"
"As for Tsushima and Yinqi, they are both small islands. The height of the Yinqi Stone is 5000, and Tsushima is only 15000 if you don't count the trade stones."
"I have already discounted the price in the compensation. If not, the emperor will be angry, and really want to occupy Kyushu Island and Changzhou Fan, wouldn't it be very difficult?"
"To tell you the truth, don't I know that there is a golden mountain in Sado? I am lonely overseas, on the island, but I don't take it. Isn't that considered sincerity?"
After threatening again, Matsudaira Huizhen remained silent.
Sado's gold mine is still several hundred catties a year, and it is indeed on the island. Japan does not have a navy, so it cannot be defended at all.Liu Yu knew it, but he didn't want to cut it off. He was really sincere.
Then he asked again: "How about opening a port?"
"It can be used as Tangjin Town in Nagasaki. It is only leased, calculated by the height of the land and stones, and the shogunate lease fee is paid every year. The merchants of the Celestial Dynasty can build warehouses, houses, etc. in various Tangjin Towns. Outside Tangjin Town, they can also be traded. The merchants of the Celestial Dynasty will also abide by the laws of Japan and will not go anywhere else at will. As for those who believe in the Qiezhidan religion, the religion is also banned in this dynasty and in Japan, and they can be disposed of together. All kinds of goods can be designated as prohibited items. And not allowed to go ashore."
Dashun has no need for preaching, or the "teaching" that can be passed on has already begun as early as the time when the Tang Dynasty envoys were sent, and now it is basically finished.
Liu Yu's request is relatively low.Anyway, the coastline maps of several sensitive areas have been drawn almost. In the future, we can find an opportunity to send someone to "help" Japan draw a map with latitude and longitude for the whole of Japan.
The treaty port is said to be similar to Tangjincho in Nagasaki, but it is different.In Tangren Town, it is closely monitored; now, in Tangren Town, Chinese businessmen can build warehouses and houses, come in and out at will, and sell goods outside.
Since Matsudaira Huizhen was the representative of the shogunate, Liu Yu simply spoke more clearly.
"The shogunate can take over the places where I have opened ports, and the occupied land can be transferred to other places. The West Kaido can be in Nagasaki; the Nankaido can be in Tosa; the Sanyin Road can be in Tosa. Yonago or Matsue Castle; Sanyo Road, you can choose Kobe west of Osaka. If you feel inappropriate, you can also choose Wakayama. These are the four places."
"The shogunate can set up customs, and collect tariffs in accordance with the agreed tariffs as the shogunate's finances."
"For one thing, the Celestial Dynasty hopes that Japan will be stable, rather than disintegrating and causing frequent wars. Therefore, the shogunate is directly under the jurisdiction and can also control the sale of goods, so as to prevent the vassals from buying guns privately."
"Secondly, governing the country is impossible without money. These tariffs belong to the shogunate, and they can also promote the words of the sages and spread the way of benevolence and righteousness. Or say: the way to build a country is to respect propriety and righteousness rather than political strategy; the fundamental plan lies in the hearts of the people. It's not about skills. Why respect etiquette and righteousness? Build temples and learn Confucianism."
"As for the last place, it's in Sendai. Why you choose this place is also for the sake of Japan."
"There are many famines in Japan. If there is another famine year, the food from the sea of whales can also enter Sendai. There is a saying that 'the rice from Edo is half out of Sendai'. Sendai is a place far away from the south of the dynasty. There is nothing to sell. It’s just food. If Japan’s national rice is cheap, it’s not profitable to sell it, and with tariffs added, there’s really no need to worry about opening this port, which will make the rice cheap and hurt the samurai’s interests; Mai, can also alleviate the famine in Japan. Here, the shogunate does not need to be directly under the jurisdiction, otherwise where will the Sendai domain be transferred?"
Although I always feel that Liu Yu's conditions are full of evil intentions.After hearing these conditions, Matsudaira Huizhen felt that what Liu Yu said seemed to be true, that Dashun was really only out of benevolence and righteousness, and also supported the stability of the shogunate.
For a moment, Songping Huizhen even wondered whether Liu Yu's attack on Japan was due to the emperor's order; and during the negotiation, there was still a trace of friendship with the general in it?
In Matsudaira Teruzhen's view, the conditions for opening the port were excellent.
Nagasaki was originally an external port, directly under the jurisdiction of the shogunate; Tosa has been completely messed up, and the shogunate's influence can also penetrate; Wakayama or Kobe are only close to Osaka, but not close to Edo.Kobe is directly under the shogunate, and Wakayama is the birthplace of Tokugawa Yoshimune.Yonago is not big, and it is only a small place now, so there is no problem in transferring the seal.
Anyway, the port must be opened, and the gold and silver must be lost. Dashun can choose these places, which can be said to be quite considerate of the mood of the shogunate.
As for Sendai, normal businessmen would not look far away.It seems to be true as Liu Yu said, there is nothing that can be sold, that is, the food of Ezo, the grain of Jinghai, etc.
However, he didn't know Dashun's plan.
The first four places are only for the convenience of trading companies to ship goods and extract the last bit of gold and silver from Japan.But the opening of Sendai is actually preparing to collude with the Sendai Fan, and it is really preparing to sell food.
Liu Yu has considered the various situations around Dashun. Immigration from Southeast Asia can only "force the people to go to sea to make a living". With Dashun's organizational skills, official immigration, corruption and forced immigration are all very important. It is impossible to cause coastal shocks and uprisings again and again.
The immigration around Jinghai can only be a semi-official and semi-civilian model, using the power of private capital as much as possible.
There is a North Korean sticking out of the wretched place around Jinghai, and the sea transportation is inconvenient, and the food grown cannot be sold.
It's like the fact that after the immigrants from the Western Regions gradually succeeded, the price of food in the Western Regions was the lowest in the country.Whale Sea is even more remote than the Western Regions. It is no problem to build a large number of self-sufficient and wealthy farmers, but if you want to implement the model of "big households contribute, poor households contribute", and use private money as much as possible for immigration and reclamation, you have to Thinking about the commercialization of grain in Whale Sea.
This is not Liaodong, but the Whale Sea, which is blocked by the Korean Peninsula for convenient shipping.The direction of the commercialization market can only focus on North Korea and Japan.
Profitable, food is not just stored at home to feed pigs and brew wine, so as to promote the emergence of the first batch of agricultural capitalists, instead of landlords who sit on the ground and collect rent and split the land into small leases.
Because of the Tsushima Warm Current, Hokkaido's climate conditions are higher than those of Vladivostok and Xingkai Lake at the same latitude.
The Koreans who have been fleeing north can already grow cold-resistant rice, and Hokkaido can also grow wheat, and the land is sparsely populated and the climate is suitable.
Unlike the current Heilongjiang coast where the grass roots are more than one meter deep and the swamps are everywhere, it is the most suitable place for the development of large-scale agriculture and breeding around the Jinghai Sea.
Japan's population will continue to grow due to the introduction of sweet potatoes. With the gradual disintegration of the feudal economy caused by the opening of the port, food prices will continue to rise.
Sendai has its own copper mines and can make money, and there are a large number of merchants operating the grain industry. Every year, half of the rice eaten by the non-samurai population in Edo comes from Sendai.
Only when profits can be made can gold and silver be invested in Hokkaido, and then non-governmental organizations can recruit immigrants for population reclamation.
This can be regarded as a century-old plan. There can be a population of one million and 10 people around Whale Sea. It is like a rope to enclose the outside first. In the future, no one will be able to take away the Northeast.
In conjunction with this, North Korea opened the land passage from Pyongyang to Wonsan, so as to ensure that a large number of people in the Huanghuai area can travel northward by sea to make a living.
Taking the Huaihe River as the line, the excess population north of the Huaihe River will either go to the Western Regions, or to Kenmeng, or to the Whale Sea.
A large number of people south of the Yangtze River were either forced to go bankrupt and go to Nanyang to reclaim Taiwan, or they went to the cities to work, weave, and transport.
Japan is not the Americas, there is no spare land for immigration, farms, and plantations; Japan is not India, the climate is not suitable for growing cotton, jute, and indigo, and it is not suitable for raw material production; Japan is not the Western Regions, there is no mature feudal social organization, Instead, there are warriors who have fiefdoms. If you really want to occupy it, it is equivalent to fighting to the death with hundreds of thousands of warriors.
The so-called those who win the hearts of the people win the world. At this time, the people of Japan are not those who eat carrots all day long, but hundreds of thousands of samurai of the ruling class.
They are not only the inextricable chains of Japan, but also lovely consumers that Dashun merchants can sell.
Considering the consumption power of the class in Japan, Liu Yu did not squeeze Japan too hard on the issue of compensation.
The existing colonial system of the Westerners is not suitable for Japan. Even if the poor are squeezed into oil, they will not be able to produce the hundreds of millions of taels of silver accumulated through hundreds of years of raw silk and tea trade; to help Japan To complete the land reform, exterminate the samurai class, increase the purchasing power of the Japanese people, and build a big market, Dashun didn't have the ability, and he still didn't understand the affairs of his own family.
Thin water flows.
Whether it is a mountain of gold or a mountain of silver, sooner or later it will be spent.The court of Dashun took too much, and the merchants would earn less in the future.Leave some gold and silver to the shogunate, and return it to the samurai. In the end, it is the industry and commerce on the Dashun side that will grow stronger.
(End of this chapter)
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