Xinshun 1730
Chapter 629 Going west and going south, trust each other
Chapter 629 Going west and going south, trust each other
Hannibal agreed.
Although he has been in China for a long time, he does not have any pro-China sentiments.
However, there is fear.
He has been living in the capital, and he only sees the bright side of Dashun, but completely ignores the huge contradictions within Dashun.
In the capital, Dashun is really scary when he is high above and only looks at the data.
World-leading annual revenue, efficient civil service system, absolute monarchy centralization, nobles who honestly have no resistance at all, one-third of the world's population, terrifying logistical capabilities, the supremacy of imperial power...
Only look at the data in the capital, the world's number one.Just don't look at the real villages, Huanghuai, famine, land annexation and other issues.
Regardless of manpower, material resources, financial resources and tactical system, Hannibal did not think that Russia had the possibility of defeating Dashun.And it's meaningless, those bad lands at this time are not very attractive to Russia.
He has both the experience of studying in France and the grassroots experience of squatting on the north bank of Heilongjiang to build fortresses. In addition, he is afraid of China and only looks at the bright side in the capital, which makes him greatly agree with Elizabeth's words.
Bestuyev, on the other hand, considered it a little deeper.
"Your Majesty, if my guess just now is correct, then the influence of Dashun must be considered in the war situation in Europe."
"Once Dashun really declares war on the Netherlands, and the fact that the French army has captured Prague, we must consider the possibility of the coalition forces failing in the State Edict...or even the possibility of Austria being dismembered."
"France, Prussia, Dashun, Spain, Bavaria, Sicily, Naples, Sardinia...they are all allies. If nothing else happens, if the alliance continues, there is a great possibility that Austria will be dismembered."
"We should use this opportunity to choose our foreign policy carefully and not choose our allies too early."
"We should do everything we can to deal with the Swedish war at this time, to realize Peter the Great's dream, to seize Finland, and to make the Gulf of Finland an inland sea of Russia."
"If the war in Central Europe continues, we'd better remain neutral. When necessary, some mercenaries can be sent to support the UK, but they need high gold and silver subsidies from the UK. But if someone pulls us to declare war on China, it is Absolutely unacceptable."
Bestuyev was keenly aware of the impact that Dashun would have if he declared war on the Netherlands, which would mean that Austria would have no available allies.
Especially when the United Kingdom is still in a war with Spain's Jenkins Ears, the Dutch gold coin support is almost Austria's last hope for a comeback.
He also agrees with Elizabeth very much, don't start a war against Dashun.If the Netherlands can offer 1000 million pounds, that is, 3000 million taels of silver, it can be considered. The question is, can the Netherlands afford this price?
Before Osterman signed the Northwest Boundary Treaty with the Chinese side, and the Russian side also went to the Western Regions for inspection. Basically, one thing has been confirmed, that is, the Junggar tribe in the Western Regions is temporarily unable to have the ability to rebel.
On the one hand, with Dashun's march into the Western Regions, World War I disintegrated Junggar's military power, and brought another terrible thing to Junggar people.
smallpox.
A large number of retired soldiers who migrated to the Yili area to cultivate and build cities; large-scale population movements during several battles; businessmen who fled back and forth...
All of these caused this terrible disease to break out uncontrollably in the Western Regions.
People in the Central Plains already have a strong immunity to smallpox, after all, they have been tortured for too many years.The Junggar tribe, who have always been nomadic, did not often follow Tsarist Russia to fight in Europe like the Torghut tribe, and their resistance to smallpox was extremely poor.
Over the past few years, the tribes have suffered heavy casualties, and Dingkou has dropped sharply.
On the other hand, Dashun adopted a similar policy to Monan Mongolia and Khalkha Mongolia, restricting migration and dividing it into small pieces.
At the same time, a dreadful lock was added.
Bastion.
The fortification of several important places has been completed, relying on the migration of the population of Seoul, equipped with a bastion system, cannons and flintlock bayonets, even without this smallpox, the Junggar tribe would not have the ability to resist.
And after being divided into small tribes, whoever resists will die, and the Caochang tribe will belong to others.
Encourage reports and expose.
Disintegration and disintegration, if you do a good job, go to Beijing to live a good life, but if you don't do a good job, you will suffer here to herd sheep haha.
If there is a rebellion, Dashun will send out artillery and infantry, and the rest of the tribes will send out cavalry.Win the battle to carve up the pastures and population.
After a set of combined punches, those who have the heart of resistance should also weigh themselves.
In this case, Russia actually has no threat to Dashun.
Historically, after Russia confirmed its westward advance, it instigated the rebellion of Davazi Choros and others in Junggar; it received news that the Ottoman capital was suddenly burned for two days and one night, and large-scale anti-earth uprisings broke out in Egypt and Baghdad; After learning that Safi Persia was destroyed, the Afshar dynasty fell into civil strife, and the towns fought endlessly.
Make sure there are no worries, and this finally strengthens the determination to go west.
But now, Dashun's rule over the Western Regions has gradually stabilized.
In recent years, the emperor of Dashun was still quite rich. On the one hand, he had income from Mongolian trade, and on the other hand, he also had income from Japanese trade. These internal funds could be spent hard.
The 20 immigrants, the seven cities of the Western Regions, and more than 20 bastion chains that were spent by spending money were all important bargaining chips for the final signing of the Northwest Boundary Treaty.
Forging iron still needs to be hard on oneself. Even with the advantages of the external environment and the European war situation, without the stability of internal governance, this boundary contract is not so easy to sign.
At the same time, Bestuyev is quite afraid of Dashun's consistent practice of "being good at seizing opportunities" over the years.
It is meaningless to start a war against Dashun, on the contrary, it may even destroy the fur trade and the rhubarb trade.These are all important treasury revenues of Russia.
In addition, Bestuyev seriously doubted that Liu Yu, who could even carry out a coup d'état, could not have used the Turghut Ministry.
Since all three agreed that declaring war against China was unacceptable, the overall tone was set.
The starting points of the three people are different, but the conclusion is the same.
After summing up, Bestuyev made a point of view.
"Your Majesty, there is no trust between us and Dashun, and our westward march and their southward march are the basis of trust between us."
"We trust each other so we can go west and they can go south."
"And in turn, they go south and we go west to foster that trust."
"But now, the initiative of this kind of trust is in the hands of Dashun. We should make every effort to make them show sincerity to us first."
"They can form an alliance with Turkey, Sweden, France, and China at any time. They can also instigate the rebellion of the Turghut Ministry at any time. But we have no way to take corresponding countermeasures."
"Since he wants us to go west, they should first show sincerity. Of course I support going west, but now I have to consider the attitude of that powerful empire in the east."
Hannibal and Elizabeth also agreed with this, mainly because Liu Yu had done too much diplomatic deceit to Russia before.
The first Sino-French alliance, and then sending Swedish prisoners back, it can be said that Dashun is really insincere in the eyes of the Russians.
As Bestuyev said, Dashun controls the initiative.The so-called sincerity means that Dashun should take the move to go south and take the lead in expressing his trust in Russia.
Or... During the talks, from the Russian side, click on Liu Yu, mention the matter of going south, and see Liu Yu's attitude towards it.
Queen Elizabeth thought for a while and said, "I will invite him to go hunting at the summer palace before the enthronement ceremony. In private, talk to him about the trust between the two parties."
"He wants to sign the Sino-Russian non-aggression treaty and urges us to move westward. He always needs to let us know what the basis of trust in this treaty is. If we don't invade each other and let Russia move westward, don't they just stay still , won’t take advantage of this era of expansion to seize territory?”
Hannibal thought about what Dashun had done in the past few years, nodded and said, "Yes, it is impossible for Dashun to remain still. In a short period of time, they have fought three wars."
"To us, to Junggar, to Japan."
"These three wars were all small-scale wars for them, and they reaped great benefits. Not only did their war potential not decrease, but they also greatly increased."
"They can't stay still."
Bestuyev sighed, thinking to himself, the future situation in Europe and Russia's diplomatic strategy will all have to consider Dashun's attitude.
The current situation in Europe is almost doomed, and Austria will end, especially after it is speculated that Dashun may go south to declare war on the Netherlands.
Still, almost is almost after all.
The world is chaotic, and things are universally connected.
The situation of the European war and the subsequent diplomatic issues were far more complicated than Bestuyev thought at this time.Bestuyev has not yet considered the biggest variable, Prussia's midway rebound.
Because he still doesn't know what kind of person this monarch who just wrote "Anti-Machiavelli" last year, against unjust wars, and against treachery is.
In the already chaotic system, once the weird variable of Dashun is added, no one can predict the future direction of the world pattern.
While Elizabeth and others were discussing what Liu Yu wanted, Liu Yu was also thinking about how to lay the foundation for the follow-up diplomacy to promote the China-France-Russia Triple Alliance.
This time, through the Russian coup, Dashun made a good appearance in Europe, and finally had the opportunity to intervene in European affairs, and what he said would not be regarded as fart by Europeans.
But the appearance is only to obtain the admission qualification for the "diplomacy" exam.
What really needs to be done is to promote the final big goal in the follow-up complicated diplomatic revolution.
Especially around Russia's attitude, how can we get involved in the "palace battle" between British, Prussian, French, and Austrian diplomats and spies staged at the Petersburg court to achieve the interests of Dashun.
Liu Yu is sure that before the enthronement ceremony of Queen Elizabeth, Elizabeth will choose to meet with him and discuss some things in secret.
This is obvious.
And this meeting will lay a solid foundation for future diplomacy.
Liu Yu's overall goal has not changed, that is to fight against the British, win India, open up the European and American markets, and get a way to smuggle or ship goods.
Letting Russia go west has nothing to do with the Netherlands.
This little piece of trash in the Netherlands doesn't need the Russian West to come in and help, and it can't help much.
Although the Russian monarch often produces idiots and idiots, idiots must also have a material basis for doing things.
Peter III could do some silly moves and withdraw the army in Prussia, but he was not capable of ordering [-] Russian troops to cross the Siberian wasteland to fight Dashun.
Dashun fought Junggar, and the logistics consumption was on the order of tens of millions.Russia is so poor, how can it support an army that can threaten Dashun?
If he knew what Bestuyev said that "Russia's westward advance and smooth southward movement are the basis of mutual trust between the two sides", he would definitely laugh at Bestuyev for "taking himself too seriously".
(End of this chapter)
Hannibal agreed.
Although he has been in China for a long time, he does not have any pro-China sentiments.
However, there is fear.
He has been living in the capital, and he only sees the bright side of Dashun, but completely ignores the huge contradictions within Dashun.
In the capital, Dashun is really scary when he is high above and only looks at the data.
World-leading annual revenue, efficient civil service system, absolute monarchy centralization, nobles who honestly have no resistance at all, one-third of the world's population, terrifying logistical capabilities, the supremacy of imperial power...
Only look at the data in the capital, the world's number one.Just don't look at the real villages, Huanghuai, famine, land annexation and other issues.
Regardless of manpower, material resources, financial resources and tactical system, Hannibal did not think that Russia had the possibility of defeating Dashun.And it's meaningless, those bad lands at this time are not very attractive to Russia.
He has both the experience of studying in France and the grassroots experience of squatting on the north bank of Heilongjiang to build fortresses. In addition, he is afraid of China and only looks at the bright side in the capital, which makes him greatly agree with Elizabeth's words.
Bestuyev, on the other hand, considered it a little deeper.
"Your Majesty, if my guess just now is correct, then the influence of Dashun must be considered in the war situation in Europe."
"Once Dashun really declares war on the Netherlands, and the fact that the French army has captured Prague, we must consider the possibility of the coalition forces failing in the State Edict...or even the possibility of Austria being dismembered."
"France, Prussia, Dashun, Spain, Bavaria, Sicily, Naples, Sardinia...they are all allies. If nothing else happens, if the alliance continues, there is a great possibility that Austria will be dismembered."
"We should use this opportunity to choose our foreign policy carefully and not choose our allies too early."
"We should do everything we can to deal with the Swedish war at this time, to realize Peter the Great's dream, to seize Finland, and to make the Gulf of Finland an inland sea of Russia."
"If the war in Central Europe continues, we'd better remain neutral. When necessary, some mercenaries can be sent to support the UK, but they need high gold and silver subsidies from the UK. But if someone pulls us to declare war on China, it is Absolutely unacceptable."
Bestuyev was keenly aware of the impact that Dashun would have if he declared war on the Netherlands, which would mean that Austria would have no available allies.
Especially when the United Kingdom is still in a war with Spain's Jenkins Ears, the Dutch gold coin support is almost Austria's last hope for a comeback.
He also agrees with Elizabeth very much, don't start a war against Dashun.If the Netherlands can offer 1000 million pounds, that is, 3000 million taels of silver, it can be considered. The question is, can the Netherlands afford this price?
Before Osterman signed the Northwest Boundary Treaty with the Chinese side, and the Russian side also went to the Western Regions for inspection. Basically, one thing has been confirmed, that is, the Junggar tribe in the Western Regions is temporarily unable to have the ability to rebel.
On the one hand, with Dashun's march into the Western Regions, World War I disintegrated Junggar's military power, and brought another terrible thing to Junggar people.
smallpox.
A large number of retired soldiers who migrated to the Yili area to cultivate and build cities; large-scale population movements during several battles; businessmen who fled back and forth...
All of these caused this terrible disease to break out uncontrollably in the Western Regions.
People in the Central Plains already have a strong immunity to smallpox, after all, they have been tortured for too many years.The Junggar tribe, who have always been nomadic, did not often follow Tsarist Russia to fight in Europe like the Torghut tribe, and their resistance to smallpox was extremely poor.
Over the past few years, the tribes have suffered heavy casualties, and Dingkou has dropped sharply.
On the other hand, Dashun adopted a similar policy to Monan Mongolia and Khalkha Mongolia, restricting migration and dividing it into small pieces.
At the same time, a dreadful lock was added.
Bastion.
The fortification of several important places has been completed, relying on the migration of the population of Seoul, equipped with a bastion system, cannons and flintlock bayonets, even without this smallpox, the Junggar tribe would not have the ability to resist.
And after being divided into small tribes, whoever resists will die, and the Caochang tribe will belong to others.
Encourage reports and expose.
Disintegration and disintegration, if you do a good job, go to Beijing to live a good life, but if you don't do a good job, you will suffer here to herd sheep haha.
If there is a rebellion, Dashun will send out artillery and infantry, and the rest of the tribes will send out cavalry.Win the battle to carve up the pastures and population.
After a set of combined punches, those who have the heart of resistance should also weigh themselves.
In this case, Russia actually has no threat to Dashun.
Historically, after Russia confirmed its westward advance, it instigated the rebellion of Davazi Choros and others in Junggar; it received news that the Ottoman capital was suddenly burned for two days and one night, and large-scale anti-earth uprisings broke out in Egypt and Baghdad; After learning that Safi Persia was destroyed, the Afshar dynasty fell into civil strife, and the towns fought endlessly.
Make sure there are no worries, and this finally strengthens the determination to go west.
But now, Dashun's rule over the Western Regions has gradually stabilized.
In recent years, the emperor of Dashun was still quite rich. On the one hand, he had income from Mongolian trade, and on the other hand, he also had income from Japanese trade. These internal funds could be spent hard.
The 20 immigrants, the seven cities of the Western Regions, and more than 20 bastion chains that were spent by spending money were all important bargaining chips for the final signing of the Northwest Boundary Treaty.
Forging iron still needs to be hard on oneself. Even with the advantages of the external environment and the European war situation, without the stability of internal governance, this boundary contract is not so easy to sign.
At the same time, Bestuyev is quite afraid of Dashun's consistent practice of "being good at seizing opportunities" over the years.
It is meaningless to start a war against Dashun, on the contrary, it may even destroy the fur trade and the rhubarb trade.These are all important treasury revenues of Russia.
In addition, Bestuyev seriously doubted that Liu Yu, who could even carry out a coup d'état, could not have used the Turghut Ministry.
Since all three agreed that declaring war against China was unacceptable, the overall tone was set.
The starting points of the three people are different, but the conclusion is the same.
After summing up, Bestuyev made a point of view.
"Your Majesty, there is no trust between us and Dashun, and our westward march and their southward march are the basis of trust between us."
"We trust each other so we can go west and they can go south."
"And in turn, they go south and we go west to foster that trust."
"But now, the initiative of this kind of trust is in the hands of Dashun. We should make every effort to make them show sincerity to us first."
"They can form an alliance with Turkey, Sweden, France, and China at any time. They can also instigate the rebellion of the Turghut Ministry at any time. But we have no way to take corresponding countermeasures."
"Since he wants us to go west, they should first show sincerity. Of course I support going west, but now I have to consider the attitude of that powerful empire in the east."
Hannibal and Elizabeth also agreed with this, mainly because Liu Yu had done too much diplomatic deceit to Russia before.
The first Sino-French alliance, and then sending Swedish prisoners back, it can be said that Dashun is really insincere in the eyes of the Russians.
As Bestuyev said, Dashun controls the initiative.The so-called sincerity means that Dashun should take the move to go south and take the lead in expressing his trust in Russia.
Or... During the talks, from the Russian side, click on Liu Yu, mention the matter of going south, and see Liu Yu's attitude towards it.
Queen Elizabeth thought for a while and said, "I will invite him to go hunting at the summer palace before the enthronement ceremony. In private, talk to him about the trust between the two parties."
"He wants to sign the Sino-Russian non-aggression treaty and urges us to move westward. He always needs to let us know what the basis of trust in this treaty is. If we don't invade each other and let Russia move westward, don't they just stay still , won’t take advantage of this era of expansion to seize territory?”
Hannibal thought about what Dashun had done in the past few years, nodded and said, "Yes, it is impossible for Dashun to remain still. In a short period of time, they have fought three wars."
"To us, to Junggar, to Japan."
"These three wars were all small-scale wars for them, and they reaped great benefits. Not only did their war potential not decrease, but they also greatly increased."
"They can't stay still."
Bestuyev sighed, thinking to himself, the future situation in Europe and Russia's diplomatic strategy will all have to consider Dashun's attitude.
The current situation in Europe is almost doomed, and Austria will end, especially after it is speculated that Dashun may go south to declare war on the Netherlands.
Still, almost is almost after all.
The world is chaotic, and things are universally connected.
The situation of the European war and the subsequent diplomatic issues were far more complicated than Bestuyev thought at this time.Bestuyev has not yet considered the biggest variable, Prussia's midway rebound.
Because he still doesn't know what kind of person this monarch who just wrote "Anti-Machiavelli" last year, against unjust wars, and against treachery is.
In the already chaotic system, once the weird variable of Dashun is added, no one can predict the future direction of the world pattern.
While Elizabeth and others were discussing what Liu Yu wanted, Liu Yu was also thinking about how to lay the foundation for the follow-up diplomacy to promote the China-France-Russia Triple Alliance.
This time, through the Russian coup, Dashun made a good appearance in Europe, and finally had the opportunity to intervene in European affairs, and what he said would not be regarded as fart by Europeans.
But the appearance is only to obtain the admission qualification for the "diplomacy" exam.
What really needs to be done is to promote the final big goal in the follow-up complicated diplomatic revolution.
Especially around Russia's attitude, how can we get involved in the "palace battle" between British, Prussian, French, and Austrian diplomats and spies staged at the Petersburg court to achieve the interests of Dashun.
Liu Yu is sure that before the enthronement ceremony of Queen Elizabeth, Elizabeth will choose to meet with him and discuss some things in secret.
This is obvious.
And this meeting will lay a solid foundation for future diplomacy.
Liu Yu's overall goal has not changed, that is to fight against the British, win India, open up the European and American markets, and get a way to smuggle or ship goods.
Letting Russia go west has nothing to do with the Netherlands.
This little piece of trash in the Netherlands doesn't need the Russian West to come in and help, and it can't help much.
Although the Russian monarch often produces idiots and idiots, idiots must also have a material basis for doing things.
Peter III could do some silly moves and withdraw the army in Prussia, but he was not capable of ordering [-] Russian troops to cross the Siberian wasteland to fight Dashun.
Dashun fought Junggar, and the logistics consumption was on the order of tens of millions.Russia is so poor, how can it support an army that can threaten Dashun?
If he knew what Bestuyev said that "Russia's westward advance and smooth southward movement are the basis of mutual trust between the two sides", he would definitely laugh at Bestuyev for "taking himself too seriously".
(End of this chapter)
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