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Chapter 328 Talking about Cooperation under the Excuse of Starry Sky Instruction Set

Chapter 328 Talking about Cooperation under the Excuse of Starry Sky Instruction Set
"What is the minimum standard of the cooperation framework?"

The gentle voice interrupted the contemplation of everyone present.

Lixia quickly replied: "Invest in research resources at the most necessary core key nodes."

This is a process with Bolang Lab's R&D benchmark execution plan in fields such as 4G communications, but there is obviously a difference between the two at the moment.

Lixia then added: "However, we still need to invest in our own resources for commercialization. Other key node technologies that are slightly less core are mature commercial solutions for the global supply chain system."

Wen Liang asked again: "Which specific direction are the resources that have been invested so far mainly concentrated?"

Lixia answered one by one: "Based on the in-depth optimization research of some modules of existing domestic wafer manufacturing equipment such as lithography machines, and the research of several key materials."

"Before implementing the plan, there have been in-depth analyzes by relevant experts from various aspects."

Li Ze, who was sitting on the other side, also raised a question: "If we invest in R&D resources for all weak links, what is the probability that the first phase of investment will produce laboratory-grade products? After all, the data shows that ASML invested a lot of resources in the early stage to complete the After the prototype of the EUV lithography machine is produced, it is believed that at least 50 billion euros, or about 410 billion yuan, will be needed.”

Lixia explained: "ASML's 50 billion euro investment is the commercial mass production of EUV lithography machines. We are now solving the experimental level output based on DUV ArF immersion lithography industry chain, and we have a variety of successful solutions for reference. The success rate of the first phase of resources is about 98%.”

In fact, Li Ze was a little bit euphemistic to persuade him to quit. He used ASML as an example to illustrate that there is a gap between experimental products and commercial use.

The first-phase investment of 692 billion was just an experimental product.

Then it will cost tens of billions to build a fab to continuously improve experimental products, and finally to stable commercial use, and two 700 billion yuan may not be enough.

Lixia's focus is to seek truth from facts, which is equivalent to guaranteeing that the first phase of investment in experimental products will be paid out.

This kind of simple words, everyone here can understand the meaning.

When the office fell into a slight silence, Lin Tong opened his mouth, and finally said tentatively, "Now is the era of global trade, division of labor and cooperation to solve problems, mastering the core is already very powerful... I guess."

While talking, he saw Wen Liang's eyes looking over gently.

Lin Tong didn't understand what Wen Liang meant, but he had finished speaking anyway, so he shut up quickly.

After all, his current research direction is only the GPU design in the midstream design of the semiconductor industry, which is "insignificant" in the large industry chain of semiconductors.

Moreover, he actually came to report work.

"Worker Lin, don't be cautious." Wen Liang smiled and waved his hand, "Everyone talk about your opinions. You are the main personnel in the company who are most closely related to semiconductors."

"From the existing information, the investment at this stage is actually not enough to call it mastering the core key node technology."

"The current stage is not up or down."

"Funding is a big problem."

Even Li Bowen mentioned the funding issue.

But Qin Zheng, who finally spoke out, expressed his opinion: "I think, if possible, we should choose to invest in polishing a stable and reliable high-precision process."

"When I was in Silicon Valley, I visited Apple by chance and learned a few public stories. One year before the release of the first generation of the iPhone, Intel refused to provide Apple with mobile phone CPUs and sold its own ARM division XScale. Apple Selected Samsung;
This year, in order to de-Samsung, Apple is looking for a next-generation iPhone processing chip foundry. The rumored best candidate, Intel, is still not accepted. It is said that TSMC is not ready to accept Apple’s order. After all, TSMC still has an order for us. Some capacity pressure. "

"The target we choose for the development of mobile phone business is Apple, and only Apple is worthy of our current challenge. As far as I know, Apple in the post-Jobs era still maintains a totem-like pursuit of core chip performance;

Xinghai 1 is only ahead of the released iPhone 5, not Apple's iPhone series. "

After Qin Zheng finished speaking like a tongue twister, he turned to say: "We have our longer-term pursuits, as well as our more immediate actual needs. Instead of repeating it over and over again, we finally have to spend huge sums of money to force the current lithography TSMC, which is nearly 1.5 to 2 generations behind Intel in terms of manufacturing process, is growing wildly, so it is better to spend huge sums of money to cultivate a semiconductor industry chain that we have full control over."

"TSMC is willing to cooperate with ASML on the adjustment of EUV lithography experimental models, simply because it has fallen behind Intel in DUV;

And choosing Apple, a player who pursues performance, as the goal, we must force the evolution of the cooperative unit's process. "

Speaking of this, Qin Zheng's mouth twitched, and he smiled: "I guess Intel, which has rejected Apple, has begun to regret it, because Apple's pursuit has made Samsung grow into its opponent, isn't it?"

Wen Liang briefly concluded: "Because Apple is our own chosen opponent, we will inevitably have the pursuit of advanced manufacturing processes for core chips, and this pursuit will force the evolution of related processes, right."

Qin Zheng's eyelids jumped suddenly, but he still nodded honestly.

He said so much, the core meaning is this.

One thing Qin Zheng sees very well is that Xinghai 1 is indeed ahead of the released iPhone 5 to a certain extent, not Apple's iPhone series.

Squeezing toothpaste is something that every manufacturer is good at in this era.

So does Bolang.

For example: Is fingerprint recognition not available on products now?No, it's for squeezing toothpaste.

Was there no need for the 'raise to wake' algorithm that took a lot of work to figure out?No, it's for storage.

In short, under such a competitive situation, Bolang terminal not only cannot stop, but also needs to carry out more technical reserves.

TSMC's overall solution is indeed not top-notch now.

Otherwise, guess why the processing chip of Xinghai 1 uses a 28nm process, and both the CPU and GPU have to have 4 cores?

The A5 chip on the iPhone 6 is only a dual-core CPU and a triple-core GPU, and it only uses a 32nm process.

Li Ze looked around and put forward his opinion directly: "We don't need to invest in research on a stable high-tech process, just build a fab with existing solutions."

"You can eat the word reliable." Qin Zheng told a cold joke.

Seeing this, Wen Liang said calmly: "Mr. Ze, don't worry about the funding issue. This matter actually gave me a very good excuse...to get in."

"The fab will definitely be built, and it will definitely be fully invested in research."

After a short pause, he explained in a gentle tone: "I am an insecure person. After all, all my confidence comes from my contacts, backers, and resources in various fields in China. These things are not very useful overseas, so I can't believe the so-called global supply chain.”

"This is the first, and the second is that I have always insisted that it is better to have one's own than to have one's own. The technology of the semiconductor industry can be regarded as the field of basic science. I don't think there is any disadvantage in domestically mastering it."

"Thirdly, this is conducive to the development of the domestic industrial chain. In the end, it is convenient for us, because we have done a good job in the downstream, at least there is a mobile phone supply chain."

"Fourth, I think Bolang is still valuable now, so I always feel that there will be troublemakers trying to harm me, such as the realDT on Twitter, who is clamoring there every day. I am worried that someday this thing will say that it contains Nima Ami’s technology is not allowed.”

The last reason made Li Ze and the others in the know couldn't help but smile knowingly.

Ever since they knew Wen Liang's ID on the overseas network, they have been secretly watching realGM playing with realDT. DT may be a bit old, and sometimes he is accidentally made to jump.

However, Li Ze thought about it and said, "Can we also get it done through overseas investment and acquisitions?"

"Is the basic science industry a matter of technical data?" Wen Liang scolded, "It's talents, and it needs to be cultivated from generation to generation to promote the downward evolution of technology!!"

Can Wen Liang not know such a simple matter as acquisition?
There's a hammer for that.

Even if the company's engineers are packaged to China when the acquisition is made, it is just a moment and a corner without root, without discussing whether they are happy or not.

Corporate engineers are not going to train the next generation of talent.

There is one and only one way to cultivate talents, the output of colleges and universities!

With the current training system and the size of China's population, one generation is actually only one year, not 30 to [-] years.

Just like that quip: No girl will be 18 forever, but there will always be 18-year-old girls.

This is why Bolang has always insisted on commercial isolation in the direction of basic science and put it in colleges and universities.

For example, Qin Zheng and Zhang Yulin, don't they need help from others to research experimental products in Huagong Laboratory?
Aren't the students, professors, and academicians of Huagong who accounted for the highest proportion of those who helped?
Can these people help without brains?

Could it be that they can't even learn a little bit with their brains?
Isn't learning to cultivate talents?

This is a simple logic that sounds very complicated, but is actually very clear.

In a word, if buying abroad could solve the problem, China's industrial base would not be like this.

Li Ze didn't object anymore, he raised his hands to express his unconditional agreement, and he didn't need to be gentle to arrange, he took the initiative to take the job, he knew exactly what he should do.

He was actually worried about money.

After all, the first batch of funds is going to be hundreds of billions.

…………

Afterwards, Qin Zheng and Lin Tong reported the progress of related research projects respectively.

Qin Zheng has already finished the CPU instruction set, which is not considered the final version, but even if it needs to be adjusted, it is only in a small range, and there is no need to overthrow and start over like last time.

Lin Tong also basically solved the GPU instruction set that does not need to consider the adaptation problem.

Based on this, we can enter the next stage of research and development.

That is, the design and development of instruction set architecture and processing core.

The two finished their reports respectively. At the end, Qin Zheng added: "I want to name the command set Xingkong, which is the same as Xingchen and Xinghai."

Next to him, Li Bowen couldn't help asking a question: "What about the name of the chip?"

Hearing this, Qin Zheng replied solemnly: "Before the performance cannot exceed the current chip, I dare not name it casually."

This was so gentle that he couldn't help laughing, and then said: "The names of the CPU series and GPU series will be discussed later, don't worry now."

"It's great that you all completed the development work as expected, but the next step is to start."

"My request is to produce the first generation, develop the first generation, pre-research the first generation, explore the first generation, and break through the first generation. How to implement it will be coordinated by you in the blog post."

Lin Tong wondered: "The first four requirements can be understood, what does the breakthrough of the first generation refer to?"

Li Bowen replied from the side: "For example, GPU breakthrough to GPGPU."

Lin Tong suddenly realized, his eyes lit up, which is great.

……

In the end, when only Wen Liang and Li Ze were left in the office, Wen Liang briefly mentioned two arrangements: "Allow 120 billion out of the 50 billion received to prepare for the establishment of a wholly-owned semiconductor company."

"Allocate 60 billion yuan to initially expand research investment in key core links."

Li Ze couldn't help but be speechless: "Don't leave it to the Bolang terminal at all?"

"I kept 10 billion." Wen Liang said as a matter of course.

Li Ze didn't say much, got up and walked outside, muttering as he walked: "Yesterday our terminal was still Xiaotiantian, and today we are raised by stepmother..."

Wen Liang pretended not to hear.

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In the next few days, Wen Liang was still very busy.

On Wednesday, we led a small round.

Major mobile phone manufacturers in Guangdong have sent representatives, such as Yu Dadong of Juchang and Huang Zhang of Meizu.

Just chatting.

There is no intention of joint cooperation.

More or less, there is a sense that the mobile phone circle has finally accepted the Bolang terminal.

Originally, it was enough for Li Ze to come forward in such a matter, but Wen Liang was more of a landlord.

There was no talk of joint cooperation, but the two OVs and Bolang Terminal have talked about cooperation. They are now mainly offline, with low allocation and high price, and e-waste operations.

They were not too worried before, but after Bolang Terminal took out Xinghai 1, they suddenly remembered the cooperation between Bolang Terminal and ZTE, and had to roll up.

In fact, Wen Liang never thought about developing low-end from the very beginning.

After all, there was Redmi in the past, and Honor in the future. Although Honor has not yet established a brand, it has launched some thousand-yuan models.

Anyway, Bolang integrates the supply chain, rolls it up from the source, and lets the electronic waste be eliminated.

In the end, Yu Dadong also took the initiative to find Wen Liang alone, and the chat went a little deeper.

Wen Liang had long thought about it and put forward some ideas: "If your company is interested, we can cooperate in chip design to a certain extent. After all, we are all using ARM solutions."

"Of course." Yu Dadong responded with a smile, "The K3V2 we are using now has been scolded miserably, what the hell, it's a mess."

Wen Liang laughed: "It's all a temporary problem."

He also said: "A cooperation on the 4G baseband?"

"Yes, Mr. Wen is too polite." Yu Dadong also laughed, "Our 4G LTE baseband solution is still very strong. We have built 170 SingleRAN commercial networks around the world, which are capable of supporting LTE evolution. 139 operators have commercially released or will soon release their LTE services."

"..."

The in-depth conversation with Yu Dadong can be described as a happy one.

Bolang does not have the ability to intervene in the business of operators now and in the future. This cannot be done by investing in research on 4G and 5G standards.

It needs to invest a lot of manpower and material resources. In the end, it is the business of Chrysanthemum Factory and ZTE that can really be robbed.

On the contrary, although the world is gradually commercializing 4G, it is still at the Cat4 level. Therefore, Bolang Lab is directly conducting research on Cat6. It is expected to develop core technologies and have a little say in cooperation.

Chrysanthemum’s advantages in the carrier business can greatly help Xinghai 1 to go overseas.

Juchang also hopes to accelerate the mature evolution of their K3V2 through cooperation.

Seeing off Yu Dadong, Wen Liang didn't go back to the company, but wandered casually on the street.

Then I overheard interesting conversations from passers-by.

"Xinghai 1 sold out very quickly again today. It must be Li Ze who is more than usual and only knows how to play games, so the supply is not available. Look at how he played Monkey King so slipperily at the press conference!"

"Indeed, but soon I can fast-forward to watch Li Ze's live broadcast screwing the screw! Haha..."
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PS1: This chapter is a bit long. I have to admit that in the first half of this chapter, I have expressed a lot of personal opinions. I don’t like light spraying. These personal opinions are the source of my writing this book, because writing a book is the process of outputting personal ideas. I also know that it is difficult for these contents to be more widely recognized. After all, the word ideal has become a hypocritical meaning in the entertainment world, but writing a book is to express something, at least I am like this, if you don’t want to express anything, Then there will be no desire to create, anyway... novels are fictitious, and ideals are now a hypocritical word, which is also considered correct. If I write it this way, readers and grandpas will take a look at it this way.

PS2: The basic 2 update was not updated yesterday, and today there is still 2 update in the basic 1 update, so 3 chapters are still owed, and it will be added later.

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