rebirth of change
Chapter 2152 For National Rejuvenation
"It's true that I didn't invest in natural gas before, but I can now. Why, don't you welcome it?" Chen Kangjie said indifferently.
"Welcome is welcome, but I can't let you hand over all the industries related to national economic security and energy security. In that case, I can't appease and balance internally. If nothing else, the National Gas Company will let me Headache." Ivan didn't shy away from it, and said directly in a declining tone.
At present and for a long period of time to come, Russia's main source of income is energy exports, which they can afford.On the contrary, in terms of civilian industry, Russia is relatively backward, and many daily necessities cannot be completely self-supplied.Of course, there are also military products that Russia can exchange with foreign countries, but military products cannot be exported indiscriminately, which involves too much, especially some things with relatively high technological content.
Take the diesel-electric submarine that China needs this time as an example. Russia’s export must not only regard this submarine as a bargaining chip for cooperation between the two countries, but also take into account the feelings of its partners in South Asia and Southeast Asia, as well as the US side. rebound and so on.It requires comprehensive measurement, comprehensive consideration and coordination.
However, with Chen Kangjie's intervention, the procurement of diesel-electric submarines should go much smoother. At least with Ivan, he can no longer hinder him.
"Aren't you introducing a market economy now? Aren't you welcoming foreign investment to develop the economy? What? You don't welcome me instead? You know, my investment is at least better than investment from Western countries." Chen Kangjie declined Ivan's expression He didn't care about it, and continued talking.
"If it is possible, I certainly hope that you will come. However, there are quite a lot of opposition to continue to open up energy projects to foreign investment. It is difficult for me to forcefully implement it. Let's let it go." Ivan was quite determined.
"If you can't invest directly, then just buy it. It shouldn't be a problem, right? We can sign a long-term purchase contract, and the construction of the pipeline can be funded in half. If your construction lacks funds, I can also help you contact the loan , Don’t worry, it must be a low-interest or even interest-free loan. Isn’t this kind of condition generous enough?” Chen Kangjie did not hold on to direct investment anymore, but changed his approach.
The reason why Chen Kangjie no longer insisted on direct investment was because he didn't want to cause Ivan's backlash.This guy has a strong character in his bones, and if he is pushed hard, it will not do him any good.
Moreover, Chen Kangjie also knows that what Ivan said is true to a certain extent. He wants to attack the oligarchs now because he wants to bring some key strategic economies under the control of the government. However, the government does not have sufficient funds to realize Ivan's political ambitions.
Since you know you can't do it, why bother to make things difficult for others.As long as Ivan is willing to open such a natural gas pipeline, as long as he is willing to borrow money, then this matter can be done.It would be a win-win situation.
Sure enough, after listening to Chen Kangjie's favorable conditions, Ivan held his wine glass and pondered deeply.
In a word, Ivan needs money now, he needs the economy to improve.Only when the economy improves, and only when he has a large amount of money in his hands, will his position be consolidated, and he will be able to settle the opinions and oppositions of various strata in the country.
If there is a new leader, the living conditions of the common people still do not improve, and they still live in the environment of poverty and lack of commodities, it would be strange to support him.If the leader is changed, the income of civil servants remains the same, and the army is still bleak and slack, then the support of these people for him will still be weak.If one's own position cannot be stabilized, how can one talk about ideals and ambitions?
Chen Kangjie was sure of this point. He knew that if Western countries offered support to him, there would definitely be many additional conditions that he could not accept.This time, Chen Kangjie not only did not have any conditions, but also provided very generous help.Of course, as for the purchase price of natural gas, Chen Kangjie didn't plan to negotiate it himself, and those professionals would be responsible for it.
As a national leader, Ivan is mainly responsible for strategic control.And Chen Kangjie is actually the same, he is not a political leader, but a strong economic leader.In economic cooperation, he is also only responsible for the strategic direction.
"Can you really coordinate the provision of interest-free loans?" After a while, Ivan asked.
Ivan directly omitted the low-interest loan and went straight to the interest-free loan.
Don't underestimate such a small difference, there is a huge gap between interest and non-interest.The key is that the amount of funds will be very large. Even if it is only [-]% of the annual interest, the sum will be billions of dollars.
"There is no problem with this, but low-interest loans are different from interest-free loans. If you need an interest-free loan, then the loan is RMB. If you want a low-interest loan, it is US dollars. It's up to you to choose."
"RMB? Why is there such a difference?" Ivan was surprised.
"It's very simple, because if you borrow RMB, it will be an aid loan from an intergovernmental bank. Of course, there is no interest. If you borrow US dollars, since it is a commercial loan, you will naturally have interest." Chen Kangjie explained casually.
That's what Chen Kangjie said, but in fact his reason was not at all.What he considers is the appreciation of RMB in the future. If the loan is in RMB, then of course the repayment should also be in RMB, and the RMB will appreciate in the future. If the repayment is based on that amount, considering the room for appreciation, it is equivalent to interest. Not low anymore.
"This...... Let me think about it carefully, I can't agree to you now." Ivan seemed a little hesitant.
Ivan is not an economic expert. Even if he was involved in such a big project, he would not be able to make a hasty decision. He needs to have a full communication with the think tank to make a decision.
"There is no problem with this. Anyway, this is just my suggestion. If you think it's a good deal, you can find me. Of course, if you think there are other people with better conditions, you can consider other people. I respect your decision. However, just now The oil pipeline to the east must be completed as soon as possible, and there must be no pipeline leading to the Sea of Japan." Chen Kangjie said softly and then firmly.
"Hehe, why do I think you are more like a politician than your country's politicians, but you are not like a so-called celebrity entertainer. Whether it is your diplomats or senior government officials, you are not as tough as you." Yi Wan smiled with mixed emotions.
"Because I'm not a diplomat or a government official, I can say what I think, because we have a personal relationship. Of course, I don't deny that I don't want Japan to obtain a stable oil supply. As for the reason, As I said just now, this country is strong, and there is friction with us, and your disputes on the four northern islands will not be peaceful. You may think that I am thinking from the perspective of the government, but in fact, I am only It’s just from the perspective of the nation. I hope our cooperation can continue closely and not end for some unnecessary reasons.” Chen Kangjie saw his state of mind from Ivan’s eyes and guessed part of his thoughts. That's why I said it so bluntly.
There's no need to beat around the bush when talking to smart people, that's self-deception.Rather than that, it is better to go straight.
"Well, I will temporarily suspend the discussion on the construction of the oil pipeline to Nakhodka. However, although I cannot allow you to directly invest in natural gas, I still welcome and need investment in other areas."
Next, Chen Kangjie chatted with Ivan for another 10 minutes on some issues of concern before he left the Kremlin.During the period, Chen Kangjie also met with Ivan's wife and two daughters, and took a photo with them.Because Ivan's two daughters are also fans of Chen Kangjie.
After leaving the Kremlin, Chen Kangjie immediately relayed the content of his communication with Ivan to Zhao Zhibang.
Zhao Zhibang knew about Chen Kangjie's meeting with Ivan, and it was originally arranged through the embassy.However, Zhao Zhibang was really surprised when he heard that Chen Kangjie and Yiwan were talking about such sensitive topics.
I know that Chen Kangjie is capable, and I know that he can make troubles.But they really didn't expect Chen Kangjie to have such abilities and have such influence over Ivan.
Negotiations for the procurement of diesel-electric submarines have been stalemate for months, but now there is a turning point.If this can accelerate success, it will have a great effect on improving the defense capabilities of the Republic Navy.The border demarcation negotiations between the two countries have also been going on for several years, and now they are just at the stage of gnawing hard bones.
If the two countries can solve the border territorial issue well, then a good foundation will be laid for the next comprehensive cooperation between the two countries.After all, if two countries still have territorial disputes, it is impossible to truly cooperate thoroughly.
As for the discussion and construction of the oil pipeline, Zhao Zhibang knew that it was Chen Kangjie who played a role in it.However, after Little Japan got involved, the country clearly felt that Russia's attitude had undergone some subtle changes.They were having a headache on how to resolve the crisis, but they didn't know that in the blink of an eye, the huge trouble was resolved by Chen Kangjie.This had to surprise Zhao Zhibang.
"Is what you said true?"
"Do you think I'll make a joke about this? I'll leave the reports on other leaders to you, and I won't participate." Chen Kangjie said proudly.
"You must have paid a considerable price, right?" Zhao Zhibang asked solemnly.
"Well, there is no such thing as a free lunch in the world. If you gain something, you must lose it. This is in line with the principle of energy conversion. However, Uncle Zhao, Ivan has agreed to the general goal. However, the specific negotiation still depends on the relevant government departments It’s up to you how to do it. I just did what a citizen should do. Tomorrow I will leave for the United States.”
"Okay, thank you. I will report to Comrade Zhonghua right away. You have made great contributions again. Unfortunately, there is no way to commend you." Zhao Zhibang said with emotion.
"Hehe, does it mean that if I become an official, I should be promoted? I actually don't need any commendation. The great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation is your ideal, why not my wish? Let us work together. "Chen Kangjie said with a leap of faith.
"Welcome is welcome, but I can't let you hand over all the industries related to national economic security and energy security. In that case, I can't appease and balance internally. If nothing else, the National Gas Company will let me Headache." Ivan didn't shy away from it, and said directly in a declining tone.
At present and for a long period of time to come, Russia's main source of income is energy exports, which they can afford.On the contrary, in terms of civilian industry, Russia is relatively backward, and many daily necessities cannot be completely self-supplied.Of course, there are also military products that Russia can exchange with foreign countries, but military products cannot be exported indiscriminately, which involves too much, especially some things with relatively high technological content.
Take the diesel-electric submarine that China needs this time as an example. Russia’s export must not only regard this submarine as a bargaining chip for cooperation between the two countries, but also take into account the feelings of its partners in South Asia and Southeast Asia, as well as the US side. rebound and so on.It requires comprehensive measurement, comprehensive consideration and coordination.
However, with Chen Kangjie's intervention, the procurement of diesel-electric submarines should go much smoother. At least with Ivan, he can no longer hinder him.
"Aren't you introducing a market economy now? Aren't you welcoming foreign investment to develop the economy? What? You don't welcome me instead? You know, my investment is at least better than investment from Western countries." Chen Kangjie declined Ivan's expression He didn't care about it, and continued talking.
"If it is possible, I certainly hope that you will come. However, there are quite a lot of opposition to continue to open up energy projects to foreign investment. It is difficult for me to forcefully implement it. Let's let it go." Ivan was quite determined.
"If you can't invest directly, then just buy it. It shouldn't be a problem, right? We can sign a long-term purchase contract, and the construction of the pipeline can be funded in half. If your construction lacks funds, I can also help you contact the loan , Don’t worry, it must be a low-interest or even interest-free loan. Isn’t this kind of condition generous enough?” Chen Kangjie did not hold on to direct investment anymore, but changed his approach.
The reason why Chen Kangjie no longer insisted on direct investment was because he didn't want to cause Ivan's backlash.This guy has a strong character in his bones, and if he is pushed hard, it will not do him any good.
Moreover, Chen Kangjie also knows that what Ivan said is true to a certain extent. He wants to attack the oligarchs now because he wants to bring some key strategic economies under the control of the government. However, the government does not have sufficient funds to realize Ivan's political ambitions.
Since you know you can't do it, why bother to make things difficult for others.As long as Ivan is willing to open such a natural gas pipeline, as long as he is willing to borrow money, then this matter can be done.It would be a win-win situation.
Sure enough, after listening to Chen Kangjie's favorable conditions, Ivan held his wine glass and pondered deeply.
In a word, Ivan needs money now, he needs the economy to improve.Only when the economy improves, and only when he has a large amount of money in his hands, will his position be consolidated, and he will be able to settle the opinions and oppositions of various strata in the country.
If there is a new leader, the living conditions of the common people still do not improve, and they still live in the environment of poverty and lack of commodities, it would be strange to support him.If the leader is changed, the income of civil servants remains the same, and the army is still bleak and slack, then the support of these people for him will still be weak.If one's own position cannot be stabilized, how can one talk about ideals and ambitions?
Chen Kangjie was sure of this point. He knew that if Western countries offered support to him, there would definitely be many additional conditions that he could not accept.This time, Chen Kangjie not only did not have any conditions, but also provided very generous help.Of course, as for the purchase price of natural gas, Chen Kangjie didn't plan to negotiate it himself, and those professionals would be responsible for it.
As a national leader, Ivan is mainly responsible for strategic control.And Chen Kangjie is actually the same, he is not a political leader, but a strong economic leader.In economic cooperation, he is also only responsible for the strategic direction.
"Can you really coordinate the provision of interest-free loans?" After a while, Ivan asked.
Ivan directly omitted the low-interest loan and went straight to the interest-free loan.
Don't underestimate such a small difference, there is a huge gap between interest and non-interest.The key is that the amount of funds will be very large. Even if it is only [-]% of the annual interest, the sum will be billions of dollars.
"There is no problem with this, but low-interest loans are different from interest-free loans. If you need an interest-free loan, then the loan is RMB. If you want a low-interest loan, it is US dollars. It's up to you to choose."
"RMB? Why is there such a difference?" Ivan was surprised.
"It's very simple, because if you borrow RMB, it will be an aid loan from an intergovernmental bank. Of course, there is no interest. If you borrow US dollars, since it is a commercial loan, you will naturally have interest." Chen Kangjie explained casually.
That's what Chen Kangjie said, but in fact his reason was not at all.What he considers is the appreciation of RMB in the future. If the loan is in RMB, then of course the repayment should also be in RMB, and the RMB will appreciate in the future. If the repayment is based on that amount, considering the room for appreciation, it is equivalent to interest. Not low anymore.
"This...... Let me think about it carefully, I can't agree to you now." Ivan seemed a little hesitant.
Ivan is not an economic expert. Even if he was involved in such a big project, he would not be able to make a hasty decision. He needs to have a full communication with the think tank to make a decision.
"There is no problem with this. Anyway, this is just my suggestion. If you think it's a good deal, you can find me. Of course, if you think there are other people with better conditions, you can consider other people. I respect your decision. However, just now The oil pipeline to the east must be completed as soon as possible, and there must be no pipeline leading to the Sea of Japan." Chen Kangjie said softly and then firmly.
"Hehe, why do I think you are more like a politician than your country's politicians, but you are not like a so-called celebrity entertainer. Whether it is your diplomats or senior government officials, you are not as tough as you." Yi Wan smiled with mixed emotions.
"Because I'm not a diplomat or a government official, I can say what I think, because we have a personal relationship. Of course, I don't deny that I don't want Japan to obtain a stable oil supply. As for the reason, As I said just now, this country is strong, and there is friction with us, and your disputes on the four northern islands will not be peaceful. You may think that I am thinking from the perspective of the government, but in fact, I am only It’s just from the perspective of the nation. I hope our cooperation can continue closely and not end for some unnecessary reasons.” Chen Kangjie saw his state of mind from Ivan’s eyes and guessed part of his thoughts. That's why I said it so bluntly.
There's no need to beat around the bush when talking to smart people, that's self-deception.Rather than that, it is better to go straight.
"Well, I will temporarily suspend the discussion on the construction of the oil pipeline to Nakhodka. However, although I cannot allow you to directly invest in natural gas, I still welcome and need investment in other areas."
Next, Chen Kangjie chatted with Ivan for another 10 minutes on some issues of concern before he left the Kremlin.During the period, Chen Kangjie also met with Ivan's wife and two daughters, and took a photo with them.Because Ivan's two daughters are also fans of Chen Kangjie.
After leaving the Kremlin, Chen Kangjie immediately relayed the content of his communication with Ivan to Zhao Zhibang.
Zhao Zhibang knew about Chen Kangjie's meeting with Ivan, and it was originally arranged through the embassy.However, Zhao Zhibang was really surprised when he heard that Chen Kangjie and Yiwan were talking about such sensitive topics.
I know that Chen Kangjie is capable, and I know that he can make troubles.But they really didn't expect Chen Kangjie to have such abilities and have such influence over Ivan.
Negotiations for the procurement of diesel-electric submarines have been stalemate for months, but now there is a turning point.If this can accelerate success, it will have a great effect on improving the defense capabilities of the Republic Navy.The border demarcation negotiations between the two countries have also been going on for several years, and now they are just at the stage of gnawing hard bones.
If the two countries can solve the border territorial issue well, then a good foundation will be laid for the next comprehensive cooperation between the two countries.After all, if two countries still have territorial disputes, it is impossible to truly cooperate thoroughly.
As for the discussion and construction of the oil pipeline, Zhao Zhibang knew that it was Chen Kangjie who played a role in it.However, after Little Japan got involved, the country clearly felt that Russia's attitude had undergone some subtle changes.They were having a headache on how to resolve the crisis, but they didn't know that in the blink of an eye, the huge trouble was resolved by Chen Kangjie.This had to surprise Zhao Zhibang.
"Is what you said true?"
"Do you think I'll make a joke about this? I'll leave the reports on other leaders to you, and I won't participate." Chen Kangjie said proudly.
"You must have paid a considerable price, right?" Zhao Zhibang asked solemnly.
"Well, there is no such thing as a free lunch in the world. If you gain something, you must lose it. This is in line with the principle of energy conversion. However, Uncle Zhao, Ivan has agreed to the general goal. However, the specific negotiation still depends on the relevant government departments It’s up to you how to do it. I just did what a citizen should do. Tomorrow I will leave for the United States.”
"Okay, thank you. I will report to Comrade Zhonghua right away. You have made great contributions again. Unfortunately, there is no way to commend you." Zhao Zhibang said with emotion.
"Hehe, does it mean that if I become an official, I should be promoted? I actually don't need any commendation. The great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation is your ideal, why not my wish? Let us work together. "Chen Kangjie said with a leap of faith.
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