As a mage, I just want to pursue the truth
Chapter 349 Questions and Answers
As a top domestic writer, Da Liu is also a first-class science fiction writer in the world. He often attends official meetings of Huaguo.
This meeting with such a high degree of confidentiality is the second time we have met.
Before appearing around magic, he went to the government for a meeting, and the level of secrecy this time was comparable to that time.
Sitting in a pitch-black car without any communication equipment except clothes, the sound insulation effect of the car is really good.
Da Liu felt a little uneasy. He guessed that he was looking for him to talk about the impact of virtual reality on society, and at most to imagine the future.
"Mr. Liu, you don't need to be nervous. This time is the same as last time. I hope to use your rich experience in the field of science fiction to guide our work."
Da Liuhan smiled and said, "I'm not panicking, I'm just afraid that I won't be able to meet your expectations of me."
"It's okay, I just hoped that you could serve as an inspiration for us.
It's best to be helpful, and it's okay to have no help.
Don't put too much pressure on yourself. "
Da Liu: "The questions I answered in this car last time were not so casual.
I feel that each of those questions makes me think for a long time before I can give a superficial answer.
It is harder than writing a graduation thesis when I graduated from college. "
"This time it will not be the same as last time, this time we will have a dialogue.
When you arrive at the location, someone will come and have a conversation with you.
Please understand that the content of the conversation will be recorded. "
The person responsible for the reception went silent after saying this.
Da Liu also remained silent.
He was not a person who liked to talk.
Generally speaking, the author's desire to talk is finished in the works. In front of the camera, he may be trapped by his own desire to express and talk more, but there are very few writers who talk a lot in private.
Rather than speaking with his mouth, Liu He likes to speak with his hands on the forum.
Da Liu's thoughts have been scattered in the car, and he has not formed a complete logic.
After arriving at the place and entering a poorly furnished room, a middle-aged man with a sad face sat across from Da Liu.
Seeing his face, one would feel that this person must have suffered a lot in the first half of his life, a typical middle-aged man at the bottom of Huaguo.
Da Liu naturally doesn't judge people by their appearance, and it is impossible for ordinary people to sit here and talk to him.
"Mr. Liu, I have admired you for a long time. I have always liked your works. I have read the Three-Body Problem series more than once. You can call me Mr. Chen."
Da Liu guessed that this surname was not the real surname of the other party, but it didn't matter.
Because he knew that the chance to meet the other party would only be here. After leaving this door, he probably would never see this man surnamed Chen again in his life.
"Thank you for your appreciation, I am where I am today with readers."
"I won't say more to be polite, Mr. Liu, the various awards you have won, as well as the publication of works around the world, are enough to prove your strength.
I would like to ask a question, what do you think of the law of the dark forest you mentioned in Three-Body? "
Da Liu was a little surprised, but not that surprised: "This is just a setting for the novel service.
Although it seems reasonable, this is just my personal guess.
It cannot escape the limitations of my own cognition of the real situation of the universe. "
Da Liu is very humble, and he really thinks so.
"I have repeatedly said in some external interviews that I personally do not believe that the universe under the law of the dark forest is the real universe.
The reason why it is built in this way in Three-Body Problem is because of the needs of the plot.
The plot needs to be set up in this way, so that the behavior of the Trisolarans has a logical support.
Regarding the real situation of the universe, I think the possibilities can be roughly divided into three categories: one is the best possibility, the other is neither good nor bad, and the third is the worst.
In the first category, the life of the universe is fully respected, and the universe has a unified and high moral law. My "Chaowendao" and "Country Teacher" talk about this kind of universe.
The second category is similar to the earth. Between people and civilizations, there is hatred and friendship, mutual help and mutual conflict.
And the worst kind of universe is a zero-morality, zero-sum game universe, where the struggle for survival rules everything.
In addition, there is another very simple reason why the law of the dark forest was created, that is, it is easier to tell wonderful stories in the dark future. "
The middle-aged man sitting opposite continued to ask: "Now there is such a logic.
That is, for alien civilizations whose technological level has reached a certain level, the only valuable thing for them on a planet with intelligent life is knowledge.
Knowledge that their native civilization does not have, or does not know. "
Scientists within the Huaguo government have also carried out countless discussions around Zheng Li's remarks.
Everyone is not foolish enough to believe what Zheng Li said.
There are not a few people who think that Zheng Li is an alien with ulterior motives.
The reason why I went to Liu was to get some inspiration from another angle.
After considering it for a while, Da Liu said:
"My personal opinion is that we need to see how advanced the technological level of this civilization is?
From a general point of view, I think it is true.
But it is so absolute that it still needs to be analyzed on a case-by-case basis.
For example, countries in Africa do not have any basis for industrialization, but they can be integrated into the entire cycle of the Blue Star global economic system.
For them, resources that can be realized immediately are more valuable than knowledge.
Knowledge takes time.
For our country, knowledge is more valuable than resources, and the knowledge here must be actual technical knowledge, not some theory.
The more technologically advanced a country is, the stronger their demand for knowledge will be.
Even if it's just the direction in which the technical route should develop.
But the only thing of value here is knowledge.
There may also be bias.
Because I personally think that, taking Blue Star as an example, Blue Star has millions of species resources, and the genes and samples of these species should also be valuable, right?
For example, the cats and dogs bred by Blue Star, these pets should be valuable in the universe.
In addition, if it is some brutal civilizations, for them, intelligent life itself may be regarded as a pet.
So only knowledge is valuable, I think it's a bit extreme. "
The middle-aged man continued to ask: "If the other party came from hundreds of thousands of light years away, can't he take these resources away?"
Da Liu replied directly: "That depends on the communication technology and cosmic transportation tools he has mastered.
For example, if the other party can contact the headquarters hundreds of thousands of light years away, then they can build a wormhole to come to Blue Star.
It may be hundreds of thousands of light years, and it will arrive in only a dozen or so blue star days. "
Liu's idea was also raised by scientists in Huaguo.
But it was quickly rejected.
The cost of building a wormhole to Blue Star alone is enough to transform dozens of planets like Mars into Blue Star.
Not worth it here at all.
Unless the soul has a special role.
Artificially constructed planets cannot give birth to souls.
In fact, the experiment that Huaguo wants to do the most is to see whether human beings can conceive and give birth successfully in outer space, and whether the baby after delivery can grow up smoothly.
There are speculations in Huaguo that the planets with intelligent life are special.
Otherwise, the magic coin system will not only be associated with the coordinates of the universe where intelligent life planets exist.
And intelligent life will only be born on these planets.
Even if you transform the planet into a livable planet, and then immigrate intelligent life there, the intelligent life that immigrated to the past will not be able to give birth to normal offspring.
If this conjecture is confirmed, then the importance of Blue Star will be greatly increased.
However, Huaguo has never found a suitable opportunity to carry out this experiment.
The middle-aged man did not refute Liu, he was only responsible for asking:
"Do you think civilization must be a state of continuous expansion and growth?
There is a saying that after the developed countries of Blue Star developed to a certain level, the population began to stop growing or even decrease, and there was no continuous growth trend. "
Da Liu said without hesitation: "As a matter of fact, when I wrote about the Three-Body Problem, there were not many discussions about negative population growth in society as a whole.
Later, when I looked back and thought about it, I thought so.
If we regard Blue Star as a whole, a holistic civilization, then Blue Star is undoubtedly a state of continuous expansion and growth.
The radiation boundary of mankind has expanded to almost every corner of the blue star.
In these years, our exploration boundaries have also expanded to the moon and Mars.
But for specific countries, this is indeed not the case.
And what I'm talking about is just a phenomenon, not a theory.
Because the rapid development of Blue Star in the true sense is only in the last 200 years.
The development of these 200 years is faster than that of the past 2 years.
Whether it will continue to expand and grow in the future, I really don't know.
But one or two countries cannot represent an entire civilization. "
"Then what do you think of virtual reality technology, virtual reality technology in the true sense.
It's like a second world.
It is almost indistinguishable from the real world at the macro level.
Whether it is smell, touch, hearing or vision, they are all close to reality, only the sense of taste may have some deviations.
An alien life brings such technology to the blue star. Will the civilization and technology behind him have a need for colonization of the blue star? "
“First, a few things need to be clarified.
The first is that the extraterrestrial life made it by himself, or he brought the production equipment of Blue Star to make it.
There is an essential difference between the two.
For example, I took a CNC machine tool to ancient times, and I went back to ancient times and rubbed a CNC machine tool by hand. The difficulty of the two is very different.
Secondly, is the opponent's status in the alien civilization an ordinary person or a scientist, or is it a top scientist, comparable to Blue Star's Nobel Prize winner?
Finally, what is the social form of the other party's civilization?
It is generally necessary to understand these three points in order to know whether the other party will have a colonization demand for Blue Star.
And it is possible that the other party's civilization will not colonize the blue star, but the individual will want to colonize the blue star?
Even if the alien civilization is more developed, a prosperous and livable planet is still of great value to an individual, right?
In addition, virtual reality technology is only one aspect of technology.
Of course, if this can be done, the overall technical strength will definitely not be weak.
There is no doubt that it is many years ahead of Blue Star.
It's just the opponent's technology, and it doesn't mean anything.
It is entirely possible that due to the lack of resources of the other party, virtual reality is needed to allow the people under its banner to survive in the virtual world. "
The middle-aged man nodded and said, "What you said makes sense.
If it is really as you said, then how do we deal with such an enemy. "
"In short, the information I know is too limited to give a reliable answer.
And the answers I just gave were all based on one-sided information, and the one-sided and less objective answers I gave. "
After the middle-aged man asked some more questions, he finally asked at the end:
"Mr. Liu, your answer is very valuable to us.
I will apply to disclose more information to you in the future, and look forward to your more specific answer then.
Only at that time you may lose your personal freedom for a short time.
When are you ready and when will you give me an answer.
In addition, you are clear about the confidentiality policy. The content of this chat cannot be passed on from your side to the ears of any third party. "
For the Huaguo government, Liu is a talent, but not to the point where he is absolutely necessary.
If he is willing, it will give him the opportunity to join Zheng Li's research team.
If he says no, just pretend it never happened.
"Star technology stocks fell across the board, Netflix (NFLX.O) fell more than 13%, and Netflix's market value is less than 500 billion yuan."
"Chinese concept stocks rose collectively, and bilibili rose the most, exceeding 20.00%."
In the Internet industry, many domestic companies are doing better than foreign companies.
Taking streaming media as an example, the user experience of station B is undoubtedly much better than that of YouTube.
Ever since I learned to post ads, YouTube has been flooded with pre-roll ads, and if you don’t become a member, you have to watch the ads.
And I will give you a paragraph at the beginning, and a paragraph in the middle.
This advertising model seems to have returned to China in the early 21st century.
Huaguo's film and television apps no longer play this game, and YouTube has picked it up again.
Instead, Bilibili has learned the YouTube model.
Even if the user experience of station B is better and there are no advertisements, the problem is that it does not make money.
It is losing money every year, and there is no hope of turning losses into profits until 2030.
The emergence of real idols gave investors hope for Station B.
The important reason why the number of paying users of Station B is not increasing is that the paid content is not rich enough.
Free content is converted into paid content, and the pressure of user public opinion is too great, and there are various competitors behind it.
I really dare not play like this.
Well now, after having a real idol, the most important thing is the content.
In fact, both Douyin and Bilibili are building their own content platforms.
Not just video content, but text content as well.
Byte has always pushed its novel app.Station B has also created its own novel platform.
Although they are not as good as reading articles, as a video material library, there is absolutely no shortage of content.
This meeting with such a high degree of confidentiality is the second time we have met.
Before appearing around magic, he went to the government for a meeting, and the level of secrecy this time was comparable to that time.
Sitting in a pitch-black car without any communication equipment except clothes, the sound insulation effect of the car is really good.
Da Liu felt a little uneasy. He guessed that he was looking for him to talk about the impact of virtual reality on society, and at most to imagine the future.
"Mr. Liu, you don't need to be nervous. This time is the same as last time. I hope to use your rich experience in the field of science fiction to guide our work."
Da Liuhan smiled and said, "I'm not panicking, I'm just afraid that I won't be able to meet your expectations of me."
"It's okay, I just hoped that you could serve as an inspiration for us.
It's best to be helpful, and it's okay to have no help.
Don't put too much pressure on yourself. "
Da Liu: "The questions I answered in this car last time were not so casual.
I feel that each of those questions makes me think for a long time before I can give a superficial answer.
It is harder than writing a graduation thesis when I graduated from college. "
"This time it will not be the same as last time, this time we will have a dialogue.
When you arrive at the location, someone will come and have a conversation with you.
Please understand that the content of the conversation will be recorded. "
The person responsible for the reception went silent after saying this.
Da Liu also remained silent.
He was not a person who liked to talk.
Generally speaking, the author's desire to talk is finished in the works. In front of the camera, he may be trapped by his own desire to express and talk more, but there are very few writers who talk a lot in private.
Rather than speaking with his mouth, Liu He likes to speak with his hands on the forum.
Da Liu's thoughts have been scattered in the car, and he has not formed a complete logic.
After arriving at the place and entering a poorly furnished room, a middle-aged man with a sad face sat across from Da Liu.
Seeing his face, one would feel that this person must have suffered a lot in the first half of his life, a typical middle-aged man at the bottom of Huaguo.
Da Liu naturally doesn't judge people by their appearance, and it is impossible for ordinary people to sit here and talk to him.
"Mr. Liu, I have admired you for a long time. I have always liked your works. I have read the Three-Body Problem series more than once. You can call me Mr. Chen."
Da Liu guessed that this surname was not the real surname of the other party, but it didn't matter.
Because he knew that the chance to meet the other party would only be here. After leaving this door, he probably would never see this man surnamed Chen again in his life.
"Thank you for your appreciation, I am where I am today with readers."
"I won't say more to be polite, Mr. Liu, the various awards you have won, as well as the publication of works around the world, are enough to prove your strength.
I would like to ask a question, what do you think of the law of the dark forest you mentioned in Three-Body? "
Da Liu was a little surprised, but not that surprised: "This is just a setting for the novel service.
Although it seems reasonable, this is just my personal guess.
It cannot escape the limitations of my own cognition of the real situation of the universe. "
Da Liu is very humble, and he really thinks so.
"I have repeatedly said in some external interviews that I personally do not believe that the universe under the law of the dark forest is the real universe.
The reason why it is built in this way in Three-Body Problem is because of the needs of the plot.
The plot needs to be set up in this way, so that the behavior of the Trisolarans has a logical support.
Regarding the real situation of the universe, I think the possibilities can be roughly divided into three categories: one is the best possibility, the other is neither good nor bad, and the third is the worst.
In the first category, the life of the universe is fully respected, and the universe has a unified and high moral law. My "Chaowendao" and "Country Teacher" talk about this kind of universe.
The second category is similar to the earth. Between people and civilizations, there is hatred and friendship, mutual help and mutual conflict.
And the worst kind of universe is a zero-morality, zero-sum game universe, where the struggle for survival rules everything.
In addition, there is another very simple reason why the law of the dark forest was created, that is, it is easier to tell wonderful stories in the dark future. "
The middle-aged man sitting opposite continued to ask: "Now there is such a logic.
That is, for alien civilizations whose technological level has reached a certain level, the only valuable thing for them on a planet with intelligent life is knowledge.
Knowledge that their native civilization does not have, or does not know. "
Scientists within the Huaguo government have also carried out countless discussions around Zheng Li's remarks.
Everyone is not foolish enough to believe what Zheng Li said.
There are not a few people who think that Zheng Li is an alien with ulterior motives.
The reason why I went to Liu was to get some inspiration from another angle.
After considering it for a while, Da Liu said:
"My personal opinion is that we need to see how advanced the technological level of this civilization is?
From a general point of view, I think it is true.
But it is so absolute that it still needs to be analyzed on a case-by-case basis.
For example, countries in Africa do not have any basis for industrialization, but they can be integrated into the entire cycle of the Blue Star global economic system.
For them, resources that can be realized immediately are more valuable than knowledge.
Knowledge takes time.
For our country, knowledge is more valuable than resources, and the knowledge here must be actual technical knowledge, not some theory.
The more technologically advanced a country is, the stronger their demand for knowledge will be.
Even if it's just the direction in which the technical route should develop.
But the only thing of value here is knowledge.
There may also be bias.
Because I personally think that, taking Blue Star as an example, Blue Star has millions of species resources, and the genes and samples of these species should also be valuable, right?
For example, the cats and dogs bred by Blue Star, these pets should be valuable in the universe.
In addition, if it is some brutal civilizations, for them, intelligent life itself may be regarded as a pet.
So only knowledge is valuable, I think it's a bit extreme. "
The middle-aged man continued to ask: "If the other party came from hundreds of thousands of light years away, can't he take these resources away?"
Da Liu replied directly: "That depends on the communication technology and cosmic transportation tools he has mastered.
For example, if the other party can contact the headquarters hundreds of thousands of light years away, then they can build a wormhole to come to Blue Star.
It may be hundreds of thousands of light years, and it will arrive in only a dozen or so blue star days. "
Liu's idea was also raised by scientists in Huaguo.
But it was quickly rejected.
The cost of building a wormhole to Blue Star alone is enough to transform dozens of planets like Mars into Blue Star.
Not worth it here at all.
Unless the soul has a special role.
Artificially constructed planets cannot give birth to souls.
In fact, the experiment that Huaguo wants to do the most is to see whether human beings can conceive and give birth successfully in outer space, and whether the baby after delivery can grow up smoothly.
There are speculations in Huaguo that the planets with intelligent life are special.
Otherwise, the magic coin system will not only be associated with the coordinates of the universe where intelligent life planets exist.
And intelligent life will only be born on these planets.
Even if you transform the planet into a livable planet, and then immigrate intelligent life there, the intelligent life that immigrated to the past will not be able to give birth to normal offspring.
If this conjecture is confirmed, then the importance of Blue Star will be greatly increased.
However, Huaguo has never found a suitable opportunity to carry out this experiment.
The middle-aged man did not refute Liu, he was only responsible for asking:
"Do you think civilization must be a state of continuous expansion and growth?
There is a saying that after the developed countries of Blue Star developed to a certain level, the population began to stop growing or even decrease, and there was no continuous growth trend. "
Da Liu said without hesitation: "As a matter of fact, when I wrote about the Three-Body Problem, there were not many discussions about negative population growth in society as a whole.
Later, when I looked back and thought about it, I thought so.
If we regard Blue Star as a whole, a holistic civilization, then Blue Star is undoubtedly a state of continuous expansion and growth.
The radiation boundary of mankind has expanded to almost every corner of the blue star.
In these years, our exploration boundaries have also expanded to the moon and Mars.
But for specific countries, this is indeed not the case.
And what I'm talking about is just a phenomenon, not a theory.
Because the rapid development of Blue Star in the true sense is only in the last 200 years.
The development of these 200 years is faster than that of the past 2 years.
Whether it will continue to expand and grow in the future, I really don't know.
But one or two countries cannot represent an entire civilization. "
"Then what do you think of virtual reality technology, virtual reality technology in the true sense.
It's like a second world.
It is almost indistinguishable from the real world at the macro level.
Whether it is smell, touch, hearing or vision, they are all close to reality, only the sense of taste may have some deviations.
An alien life brings such technology to the blue star. Will the civilization and technology behind him have a need for colonization of the blue star? "
“First, a few things need to be clarified.
The first is that the extraterrestrial life made it by himself, or he brought the production equipment of Blue Star to make it.
There is an essential difference between the two.
For example, I took a CNC machine tool to ancient times, and I went back to ancient times and rubbed a CNC machine tool by hand. The difficulty of the two is very different.
Secondly, is the opponent's status in the alien civilization an ordinary person or a scientist, or is it a top scientist, comparable to Blue Star's Nobel Prize winner?
Finally, what is the social form of the other party's civilization?
It is generally necessary to understand these three points in order to know whether the other party will have a colonization demand for Blue Star.
And it is possible that the other party's civilization will not colonize the blue star, but the individual will want to colonize the blue star?
Even if the alien civilization is more developed, a prosperous and livable planet is still of great value to an individual, right?
In addition, virtual reality technology is only one aspect of technology.
Of course, if this can be done, the overall technical strength will definitely not be weak.
There is no doubt that it is many years ahead of Blue Star.
It's just the opponent's technology, and it doesn't mean anything.
It is entirely possible that due to the lack of resources of the other party, virtual reality is needed to allow the people under its banner to survive in the virtual world. "
The middle-aged man nodded and said, "What you said makes sense.
If it is really as you said, then how do we deal with such an enemy. "
"In short, the information I know is too limited to give a reliable answer.
And the answers I just gave were all based on one-sided information, and the one-sided and less objective answers I gave. "
After the middle-aged man asked some more questions, he finally asked at the end:
"Mr. Liu, your answer is very valuable to us.
I will apply to disclose more information to you in the future, and look forward to your more specific answer then.
Only at that time you may lose your personal freedom for a short time.
When are you ready and when will you give me an answer.
In addition, you are clear about the confidentiality policy. The content of this chat cannot be passed on from your side to the ears of any third party. "
For the Huaguo government, Liu is a talent, but not to the point where he is absolutely necessary.
If he is willing, it will give him the opportunity to join Zheng Li's research team.
If he says no, just pretend it never happened.
"Star technology stocks fell across the board, Netflix (NFLX.O) fell more than 13%, and Netflix's market value is less than 500 billion yuan."
"Chinese concept stocks rose collectively, and bilibili rose the most, exceeding 20.00%."
In the Internet industry, many domestic companies are doing better than foreign companies.
Taking streaming media as an example, the user experience of station B is undoubtedly much better than that of YouTube.
Ever since I learned to post ads, YouTube has been flooded with pre-roll ads, and if you don’t become a member, you have to watch the ads.
And I will give you a paragraph at the beginning, and a paragraph in the middle.
This advertising model seems to have returned to China in the early 21st century.
Huaguo's film and television apps no longer play this game, and YouTube has picked it up again.
Instead, Bilibili has learned the YouTube model.
Even if the user experience of station B is better and there are no advertisements, the problem is that it does not make money.
It is losing money every year, and there is no hope of turning losses into profits until 2030.
The emergence of real idols gave investors hope for Station B.
The important reason why the number of paying users of Station B is not increasing is that the paid content is not rich enough.
Free content is converted into paid content, and the pressure of user public opinion is too great, and there are various competitors behind it.
I really dare not play like this.
Well now, after having a real idol, the most important thing is the content.
In fact, both Douyin and Bilibili are building their own content platforms.
Not just video content, but text content as well.
Byte has always pushed its novel app.Station B has also created its own novel platform.
Although they are not as good as reading articles, as a video material library, there is absolutely no shortage of content.
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