Since the Accounting: A Chronicle of the Roman Khanate

Chapter 262 He wants to learn from the body, learn from the middle to use, and learn from the great civilization of the East
Of course, Shi Huizhen's remarks are not impossible to refute.Many people here have received serious logic and debate training at any rate, and it is not difficult to pick out loopholes.

The real trouble is that the historical facts she relies on are the most difficult to explain.After all, the Greeks have indeed declined step by step to the present situation, and their infighting deeds have also run through history, and they are extremely well-known in the entire Mediterranean world, and they can't hide it even if they want to.

Everyone looked at each other for a while, and finally, a girl in Chinese clothes who was about the same age as Shi Huizhen asked, "The problems you mentioned are also common in many other civilizations. How can we analyze that this is really caused by the Greek cultural tradition?" question?"

"I'm really not good at analysis, but I don't think I need such a profound method for this problem." Shi Huizhen said: "There are many places where you haven't studied Greek culture."

"If you look at the Central Plains people, the Mongols, and the Turkic people, they haven't learned the knowledge of the sub-sages. As a result, all the people who can fight are from their side. Even the early Romans are the same. This should be quite obvious. .”

"I heard from Theodora that the Greek cultural circle was the strongest in the early days of the Eastern Empire. But I wondered, the system at that time was not the one idealized by Yasheng and others, right?"

"Greek culture has never ceased in the past 2000 years, and the Eastern Empire has actually become a Greek country. Did you get it wrong?" the girl corrected.

"But didn't the direction of development at that time be learned from the Persians?" Shi Huizhen pointed out: "Although it is a Greek country in name, the Romans learned from the Persians a long time before that. The Eastern Empire In the early days, the whole country, whether it was politics or military organization, was more and more in line with the Persians."

"If you follow the Greek tradition, there is no way to organize a big country. It's not difficult to understand." She shrugged.

"But even before the establishment of a big country, Greek civilization was brilliant." The other party argued strongly: "Until now, many people still believe that Greek civilization was at its most prosperous at that time."

"It was so prosperous, why did it surrender to Macedon? Why was it plundered and slaughtered by the Celts?" Shi Huizhen asked back: "There is no result of a big country, even a circle of barbarians can come to fight the autumn wind at will. This will come and go, and it will not happen for hundreds of years." Without interruption. Is that even a good thing?"

"Civilization is brilliant, but people are gone." She spread her hands: "But what's the point of civilization without people?"

"It doesn't matter if you don't understand history, look at us next door. Look at those Italians." She gave another example: "These people are also classic city-states, and they are indeed prosperous, but what's the use of this? It's just for the Alemanni barbarians It’s just guarding the vault. One day the barbarians are free, and they will all die.”

"Now, even the barbarians themselves know that we should try our best to put an end to the bad habit of the city-states doing their own things and strengthen the management of them by the court. England and France have both done this, and they have indeed achieved results. You study every day, but even the barbarians' political Wisdom is not as good. Is it because the barbarians are too smart and educated, or have you been poisoned too deeply and your minds are messed up?"

"How can you say that people are inferior to barbarians?" Another guest was a little hard to accept: "Besides, barbarians have always risen quickly, but also perish quickly. In the long history, they may be just some 'accidents'. I I don’t think this kind of example makes much sense.”

"Then let's look at civilized people." Shi Huizhen disagreed: "Greece is strong and prosperous, or are the dynasties of Seris strong and prosperous?"

"Uh……"

"Our history is not short, so we can see it clearly. Over the past 1000 years, too many things have happened, and everyone has experienced many tests, so the results are already obvious. Confucianism and Taoism are the most brilliant and The toughest and the strongest," she said confidently.

"They have the spirit of great unity and a whole set of political ideals, so naturally it is easier to develop than Greek civilization. Isn't the result obvious? The country of Seris will change its dynasty after a while, like an immortal snake, letting itself shed its skin every time Bigger and stronger. The Greek civilization is just the opposite, like a pool of stagnant water. It has spent 2000 years in vain, but there has been no meaningful development, and finally it has finally fallen to where it is now." Shi Huizhen scratched her head: "I still think this is quite It's easy to understand..."

"If the Central Plains area is also a Greek civilization, then hundreds of thousands of city-states will split out, and in the continuous civil wars and foreign invasions, they will be divided and annexed by various nomads, and even Koryo and Annan. Later generations may be Koreans Claiming to be the successor of Seris, bragging about the glory of his ancestors. Isn’t this kind of civilization ridiculous?”

"I think, if you want to make Greece great again, don't bother with those scripts." She shook her head and suggested: "The greatest civilization is in the East. You should at least refer to it and change it."

"Then, where is the gap and what should be done?" Someone was really shaken.

"I don't know about that." Shi Huizhen said bluntly, "I'm not a teacher. You can only ask more knowledgeable people. Besides, you should know your own problems best."

"Right, old baldy?" She turned around and started grilling Frajos again.

"I don't agree with your point of view." Frajos said dissatisfied.

"Then what's the use of telling me, you tell the Ming Dynasty." Shi Huizhen didn't care: "I'm just stating the facts to show that the Dynasty is more prosperous than Greece. Which one of you agrees and who opposes?"

Vlajos had nothing to say now, so he had to turn back and use the previous topic: "Since we are here now, the experience of Greece is more suitable. Because no matter success or failure, it is the combination of the past and the reality here. The situation, the summed up experience, and then communicated to us. The so-called drama is just a performance in an intuitive and easy-to-understand situation.”

"The reason why the drama "Medea" exists is not for entertainment, but because people at that time have really discovered these problems." He explained in detail: "If you read the script, it is not difficult to know that Medea Dia’s actions are actually in line with the standard of a traditional hero. If she were a man, these actions would actually be in line with people’s understanding of heroes at that time—including killing Jason’s son. After the covenant was broken, he killed the opponent's proton because of humiliation. In that era, this was not a rare thing, even the sun god recognized the rationality of the behavior and opposed Jason's subsequent revenge."

"So, this does not mean that we have to condemn one civilization or elevate another, but to state a simple truth: Different standards have different scopes of application. The successful experience of other civilizations is not found in this place. It must be applicable. Just like Medea’s actions, she looks similar to heroes. But as a woman, she forcibly imitates male heroes, which will inevitably lead to all kinds of weird and crazy tragic results, which will bring people’s morality and order. Make a huge impact."

"Look, the core of the problem is not the heroism itself, but the woman's attempt to make herself equal to the man." Frajos finally argued: "That's why I don't want you to wear a sword, and I also mentioned the drama. The reason. In fact, it has nothing to do with the big principles you said."

"Then are you sure, is it the same problem as men, or is there a problem with the hero standard itself?" Shi Huizhen didn't quite understand, and questioned.

"It depends on your own choice. Anyway, let me remind you that I have tried my best." Flajos resolutely stopped entangled with her: "If you insist on taking it, I don't care. The consequences in the future are up to you Just bear it."

"Let's leave this matter as it is." He took advantage of the situation to forcibly end the topic: "Let's eat, everyone!"

(End of this chapter)