Since the Accounting: A Chronicle of the Roman Khanate
Chapter 327 The Fate of Lithuania
Chapter 327 The Fate of Lithuania
Guo Kang has always felt that Lama Wang's eloquence is actually very good.Although his education level is average and he is somewhat disadvantaged, he can get along well with people of all identities.This is also a rare quality.
Sure enough, the attitudes of the two priests of Rose relaxed.And Father Marco, who is familiar with knowledge, also strikes while the iron is hot.
"Both of you are elders with firm beliefs, and everyone praises your virtue. We believe that it is precisely because the church has to establish contact with secular power that it needs two poor and pure people to correct us mortals at any time. Mistakes that occur keep the church on the right track.”
"About this issue, our monks there actually have a lot of discussions." Father Andre said: "Some brothers believe that if they come into contact with secular power, the corruption of the order is inevitable. Therefore, we should maintain as much as possible." The simple life is usually based on the status of an equal monk, and a small mutual aid organization is established to meet the most basic security and survival needs. The so-called leaders and elders should only be the most respected in practice in the order People. In this way, the original mind of practice will not be contaminated by the world."
"Later, Father Mikhail and I went on a pilgrimage around the country and found that even the Roman Catholic Church had similar ideas." He told Guo Kang and others: "Everyone feels that it is not a good idea to get entangled with secular power. Good thing."
"However, Father Marco and the others also have different opinions, so we can't get a clear answer now."
"Where is the divergence?" asked Pronsky.
"Oh, to put it simply, there are opposite views on the reasons for the church's problems. Some monks think that the church is too close to secular power and the organization is too complicated; while others think the opposite, that the church's organization is too simple and primitive, That's why these problems arise," said Father Marco.
"The former are the monks mentioned by Brother Andre, and the latter is the way of thinking of the current church." He introduced: "We believe that both the Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church have established organizations, but these organizations are still too simple."
"Originally everyone's vision was limited, so it was inevitable that there would be doubts. But in the past 100 years, we have seen the oriental court, and everyone has opened their eyes. Obviously, whether we are secular or religious organizations, we are facing the same problem—this obviously has nothing to do with whether it is secular or not. It is simply because the organization method is too backward.”
Father Andre also nodded, seeming to agree with this point of view.
"We believe that as long as the monks gather together, even for the purpose of practicing and learning together, exchanging insights, and establishing an organization are essential. So this is not an option that can be avoided, but a problem that must be solved." Father Marco said :
"Similarly, it should not be difficult for us to find that any political power in the past and present needs an explanation of belief to maintain it. It's just that everyone adopts different belief methods. And a good belief also has a great role in promoting the development of the political power. .”
"On the other hand, in order to make the religious organization sound and reduce the occurrence of corruption, a complete mechanism is required, and this mechanism requires more participants to join in. Only a powerful secular government can protect and maintain it. "
"Everyone can also see that whether it is our side or Western Europe, the most damaging to the church is often not the church itself, but the tribal leaders of the barbarians since the decline of Rome, wantonly breaking the rules of the church. In the West, the bishop Even the seat of the pope can be traded, and some teaching positions can even be sold publicly. No matter how holy the church’s original intention is, they can’t stop them from interfering and destroying so much!”
"Besides, this is not something we can escape by hiding in a remote place for cultivation. On the contrary, if those who insist on faith do not stand up, these people will become more unscrupulous. Unless we only care about ourselves and forget the teachings of Brother Tian , otherwise you have to stand up."
"It can be seen from this that the two sides can completely get what they need. This is why our church put forward the theory of 'harmony'." Father Marco finally said: "An incident like this one is obviously a political and military incident of the other country. If there is a problem, we blame our church members. Since this is the case, we must rely on a just regime to defeat the evil regime. Only in this way is in line with the world's affairs and can achieve the best results."
"That's true." Pronsky also agreed: "Originally, the relationship between Vytautas and the Russian Orthodox believers was good. His first wife was the daughter of the Prince of Smolensk. The second His wife is also a Lithuanian Orthodox lady. But in order to fight against Rome, he finally chose the other side."
"Of course, from his point of view, there is probably no other choice." Pronsky thought for a while and said, "And we can only stay with us to the end."
Guo Kang also nodded.
The conflict between the Polish-Lithuanian Alliance and other forces in the southeast is determined by geography. No matter what regime or belief, sooner or later there will be a fight.
In Guo Kang's world, a decisive battle also took place.After Timur expelled Tutuo Lost, he supported a king named Timur Hugelut as the Khan of the Golden Horde.But Tutuo lost and fled to Lithuania, where he took refuge in Vytautas.
At this time Jagiewo, king of Poland, joined forces with Vytautas.In 1398, Pope Boyi IX issued permission to form a crusade to attack the Mongols.So the two set out to organize a crusade, and brought in the Mongol Tuotuo Miluo.
However, it may be that he has been under Timur for a long time, and Timur Hugelut is not the weak and incompetent Golden Horde Khan before. In 1399, the coalition forces and his troops fought on the Volskra River, and they suffered a disastrous defeat.At least 20 princes, including Jagiewo's two younger brothers, were killed in battle, and only Vytautas was spared.This caused some Russian princes to take the opportunity to break away from his control, and the attack on the southern Russian grassland had to stop.
In this world, Timur chose to divide the management due to the northward movement of the Purple Horde Khanate.He listened to Basil III's advice, and instead of appointing a great khan who was in charge of all the ministries, he divided the eastern part of the South Russian grassland to the northern part of Central Asia and handed them over to several kings.
The western part of the grassland was given over to the Zizhang—Tamerlane was satisfied with the benefits he had already obtained, and also hoped that the Zizhang Khanate would operate the trade routes here and bring him huge income.As long as the Purple Horde can help him keep Tutuo lost.
Of course, as a price, the Purple Horde has never stopped fighting Lithuania in this direction, and Polish reinforcements also appear from time to time.It is relatively far away from the hinterland of the Purple Tent, so it can only be garrisoned by the Northern Tent Army for a long time, and it has to organize nearby tribes to assist in defense from time to time.
Fortunately, this place has also seen Timur wars, and the military level of most Lithuanian troops may not be as good as them.Over time, the local tribes have gradually become "regular" and gradually brought under the management of Wanhu Mansion.And as the Purple Horde turned to counterattack, Lithuania gradually fell into the current situation.
In Guo Kang’s view, there is no suspense about this matter—whether it is the Golden Tent, the Purple Tent, or the Grand Duchy of Moscow 100 years later in history, Lithuania’s situation will not change much.
(End of this chapter)
Guo Kang has always felt that Lama Wang's eloquence is actually very good.Although his education level is average and he is somewhat disadvantaged, he can get along well with people of all identities.This is also a rare quality.
Sure enough, the attitudes of the two priests of Rose relaxed.And Father Marco, who is familiar with knowledge, also strikes while the iron is hot.
"Both of you are elders with firm beliefs, and everyone praises your virtue. We believe that it is precisely because the church has to establish contact with secular power that it needs two poor and pure people to correct us mortals at any time. Mistakes that occur keep the church on the right track.”
"About this issue, our monks there actually have a lot of discussions." Father Andre said: "Some brothers believe that if they come into contact with secular power, the corruption of the order is inevitable. Therefore, we should maintain as much as possible." The simple life is usually based on the status of an equal monk, and a small mutual aid organization is established to meet the most basic security and survival needs. The so-called leaders and elders should only be the most respected in practice in the order People. In this way, the original mind of practice will not be contaminated by the world."
"Later, Father Mikhail and I went on a pilgrimage around the country and found that even the Roman Catholic Church had similar ideas." He told Guo Kang and others: "Everyone feels that it is not a good idea to get entangled with secular power. Good thing."
"However, Father Marco and the others also have different opinions, so we can't get a clear answer now."
"Where is the divergence?" asked Pronsky.
"Oh, to put it simply, there are opposite views on the reasons for the church's problems. Some monks think that the church is too close to secular power and the organization is too complicated; while others think the opposite, that the church's organization is too simple and primitive, That's why these problems arise," said Father Marco.
"The former are the monks mentioned by Brother Andre, and the latter is the way of thinking of the current church." He introduced: "We believe that both the Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church have established organizations, but these organizations are still too simple."
"Originally everyone's vision was limited, so it was inevitable that there would be doubts. But in the past 100 years, we have seen the oriental court, and everyone has opened their eyes. Obviously, whether we are secular or religious organizations, we are facing the same problem—this obviously has nothing to do with whether it is secular or not. It is simply because the organization method is too backward.”
Father Andre also nodded, seeming to agree with this point of view.
"We believe that as long as the monks gather together, even for the purpose of practicing and learning together, exchanging insights, and establishing an organization are essential. So this is not an option that can be avoided, but a problem that must be solved." Father Marco said :
"Similarly, it should not be difficult for us to find that any political power in the past and present needs an explanation of belief to maintain it. It's just that everyone adopts different belief methods. And a good belief also has a great role in promoting the development of the political power. .”
"On the other hand, in order to make the religious organization sound and reduce the occurrence of corruption, a complete mechanism is required, and this mechanism requires more participants to join in. Only a powerful secular government can protect and maintain it. "
"Everyone can also see that whether it is our side or Western Europe, the most damaging to the church is often not the church itself, but the tribal leaders of the barbarians since the decline of Rome, wantonly breaking the rules of the church. In the West, the bishop Even the seat of the pope can be traded, and some teaching positions can even be sold publicly. No matter how holy the church’s original intention is, they can’t stop them from interfering and destroying so much!”
"Besides, this is not something we can escape by hiding in a remote place for cultivation. On the contrary, if those who insist on faith do not stand up, these people will become more unscrupulous. Unless we only care about ourselves and forget the teachings of Brother Tian , otherwise you have to stand up."
"It can be seen from this that the two sides can completely get what they need. This is why our church put forward the theory of 'harmony'." Father Marco finally said: "An incident like this one is obviously a political and military incident of the other country. If there is a problem, we blame our church members. Since this is the case, we must rely on a just regime to defeat the evil regime. Only in this way is in line with the world's affairs and can achieve the best results."
"That's true." Pronsky also agreed: "Originally, the relationship between Vytautas and the Russian Orthodox believers was good. His first wife was the daughter of the Prince of Smolensk. The second His wife is also a Lithuanian Orthodox lady. But in order to fight against Rome, he finally chose the other side."
"Of course, from his point of view, there is probably no other choice." Pronsky thought for a while and said, "And we can only stay with us to the end."
Guo Kang also nodded.
The conflict between the Polish-Lithuanian Alliance and other forces in the southeast is determined by geography. No matter what regime or belief, sooner or later there will be a fight.
In Guo Kang's world, a decisive battle also took place.After Timur expelled Tutuo Lost, he supported a king named Timur Hugelut as the Khan of the Golden Horde.But Tutuo lost and fled to Lithuania, where he took refuge in Vytautas.
At this time Jagiewo, king of Poland, joined forces with Vytautas.In 1398, Pope Boyi IX issued permission to form a crusade to attack the Mongols.So the two set out to organize a crusade, and brought in the Mongol Tuotuo Miluo.
However, it may be that he has been under Timur for a long time, and Timur Hugelut is not the weak and incompetent Golden Horde Khan before. In 1399, the coalition forces and his troops fought on the Volskra River, and they suffered a disastrous defeat.At least 20 princes, including Jagiewo's two younger brothers, were killed in battle, and only Vytautas was spared.This caused some Russian princes to take the opportunity to break away from his control, and the attack on the southern Russian grassland had to stop.
In this world, Timur chose to divide the management due to the northward movement of the Purple Horde Khanate.He listened to Basil III's advice, and instead of appointing a great khan who was in charge of all the ministries, he divided the eastern part of the South Russian grassland to the northern part of Central Asia and handed them over to several kings.
The western part of the grassland was given over to the Zizhang—Tamerlane was satisfied with the benefits he had already obtained, and also hoped that the Zizhang Khanate would operate the trade routes here and bring him huge income.As long as the Purple Horde can help him keep Tutuo lost.
Of course, as a price, the Purple Horde has never stopped fighting Lithuania in this direction, and Polish reinforcements also appear from time to time.It is relatively far away from the hinterland of the Purple Tent, so it can only be garrisoned by the Northern Tent Army for a long time, and it has to organize nearby tribes to assist in defense from time to time.
Fortunately, this place has also seen Timur wars, and the military level of most Lithuanian troops may not be as good as them.Over time, the local tribes have gradually become "regular" and gradually brought under the management of Wanhu Mansion.And as the Purple Horde turned to counterattack, Lithuania gradually fell into the current situation.
In Guo Kang’s view, there is no suspense about this matter—whether it is the Golden Tent, the Purple Tent, or the Grand Duchy of Moscow 100 years later in history, Lithuania’s situation will not change much.
(End of this chapter)
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