Daming: Old Zhu, we agreed not to rush!

Chapter 290 Self-cultivation and governance and promotion and fortune

Su Jing's rhetorical question shocked Zhu Yuanzhang and the others again.

Aren't those who read averagely and write essays averagely not talented?
If this is the case, can Zhu Yuanzhang turn from a peasant counterattack to become a great son of heaven?

Su Jing looked at the three people in front of her calmly, and said nothing.

There are some things that you have to digest by yourself.

After a while, Zhu Biao said: "Master Su's words are indeed a new perspective, but if not, how will Da Ming select the talents he needs?"

Zhu Yuanzhang immediately echoed: "Yes, Su Jing, even if the imperial examination has the problems you mentioned, it is for the selection of talents who can manage the Ming Dynasty. Naturally, the best ones must be selected. You must be able to read and write articles, and at the same time manage ability It can't be bad."

Zhu Yuanzhang was straightforward. He is the emperor and he doesn't need to do multiple-choice questions.

Song Lian, on the other hand, did not refute directly, but thought carefully about Su Jing's question.

Su Jing looked at Zhu Yuanzhang and Zhu Biao's father and son, and still asked rhetorically: "But the talents needed by the Ming Dynasty are only 300 people selected every three years?"

"Still talking about the large territory of Mingnuo, only these 300 people are enough."

Generally speaking, the frequency of imperial examinations is once every three years, and the number of Jinshi selected in three years is generally 300.

The area of ​​Daming is not small, and there are many job demands.

From Su Jing's point of view, this number of people is simply not enough.

Of course, in Zhu Yuanzhang's view, it must not be enough.

Zhu Yuanzhang was at a loss for words.

Zhu Biao also realized that the number of talents selected by the imperial examination was really very small. At first he thought about increasing the frequency of the imperial examination, but he immediately realized that there was a problem with this matter.

It took a lot of manpower and material resources to hold an imperial examination in the Ming Dynasty.

For those scholars in remote areas, they come to participate in a big competition, which is called going to Beijing to catch up for the exam.

It is not uncommon for the short-distance test to be tens of hundreds of miles away, and the long-distance one for thousands of miles.

After such a long journey, where is the time to read and study?

The frequency of once every three years is already the most frequent time that Daming can accept under comprehensive consideration.

This matter is really not so easy to change.

"Uncle Ren Yuan, but if you don't understand the words of sages and sages, if you have skill but no way, I'm afraid it's not advisable."

Song Lian said.

Before coming, Zhu Yuanzhang had already briefly talked about what Su Jing's vocational education was, and both Zhu Biao and Song Lian had a basic understanding.

This is Song Lian's rebuttal based on the content of vocational education.

Hearing this, Su Jing immediately laughed and said, "Uncle, it seems that you and Song Chengzhi didn't talk in detail enough!"

"Su Jing, what do you mean?"

Zhu Yuanzhang looked at Su Jing and said.

Su Jing said indifferently: "Song Chengzhi can ask this question, but he just doesn't understand what vocational education is."

"I also ask Uncle Ren Yuan for advice."

Song Lian immediately asked Su Jing, with a very sincere attitude.

He is not the Huaixi Party, and he does not have much conflict of interest with Su Jing. He can also listen to Liu Bowen's warning, and he can also see Zhu Yuanzhang's attitude.

The emperor treated Su Shi so courteously, and his attitude was justified.

Su Jing said: "I don't dare to take it. The simple understanding of my so-called vocational education is to provide training and education for all walks of life other than studying, so that they can play their roles in all walks of life."

"But it's not that I don't read the books of sages. I always believe that cultural education and practical production and life skills complement each other."

"Any industry must have its own knowledge. Reading can be wise, but naturally you can't relax."

"So, reading wisely is also an important part of this vocational education, but it focuses more on the learning of practical skills."

After this explanation, Song Lian's face changed a lot.

He didn't expect Su Jing's so-called vocational education to be like this, which subverted his imagination.

But Zhu Yuanzhang and Zhu Biao nodded their heads uncontrollably.

"It's kind of interesting, quite interesting."

The corners of Zhu Yuanzhang's mouth twitched. It sounds like the talents educated by this profession are not only good at doing things, but have no cultural knowledge.

"Uncle Ren Yuan, I'm afraid this matter is impossible."

Song Lian opened his mouth with an incomparably serious expression, and there was a little strangeness in his eyes when he looked at Su Jing.

"Why not?"

Su Jing smiled and asked back: "Could it be that Song Chengzhi wanted to say that scholars are the best in the world, how can we let them study first and then learn the art of utensils?"

Su Jing already knew the biggest difficulty in implementing vocational education.

This is not only a problem in the Ming Dynasty, but also a big problem in the promotion of vocational education in Su Jing's previous life.

In the previous life, it was called occupational discrimination.

Blue-collar workers are not as good as white-collar workers, and those who work are not as good as those who sit in an office.

In the current Ming Dynasty, scholars have the highest status, they are scholars, while those trained by vocational education are mostly workers.

Scholars, farmers, businessmen, this is two levels behind, how can it be so easy to turn the corner.

This matter is also one of the reasons why Su Jing believes that it is difficult to implement vocational education in Daming.

But because the emperor is Zhu Yuanzhang, it is not impossible.

"Scholars study for the sake of self-cultivation, governing the country and the peace of the world. I really don't understand what kind of vocational education they should learn."

Song Lian's attitude has changed a bit. He is a great scholar in the world, and he also has lofty ideals and pursuits in his heart.

He really couldn't accept Su Jing's so-called vocational education.

The high status of scholars has been a thing since ancient times. Song Lian can even imagine how many scholars will oppose this vocational education once it is implemented.

Su Jing's idea is too subversive.

"Song Chengzhi, is it true that scholars are all self-cultivating, ruling the country and the world?"

Su Jing smiled and shook his head. He could understand Song Lian's thoughts, but he didn't accept them.

"Song Lian, scholars study for the purpose of getting promoted and making a fortune. Self-cultivation, governing the country and the world are mostly just whitewashing. I have seen through it a long time ago."

Zhu Yuanzhang spoke directly to Su Jing.

He doesn't have so many bells and whistles, although the current Zhu Yuanzhang has read a lot of books, but the direct character is still there.

What Song Lian said was very tall, but in Zhu Yuanzhang's heart, he didn't quite agree.

Because Zhu Yuanzhang had really seen the remnant rule at the end of the Yuan Dynasty, and there were many scholars who were officials at that time, and he knew exactly why.

Zhu Yuanzhang is not the kind of emperor who lived in the palace since he was a child and grew up in the information cocoon compiled by civil and military officials all day long.

He is well aware of the sufferings of the people, and he also clearly understands how much damage officials will do to the people's oppression.

Therefore, Zhu Yuanzhang mostly acted like a bull and a horse to support the officials.

"Your majesty... my lord, you can't say that. Reading can clarify righteousness. Self-cultivation and governing the country and the world are also the pursuits that scholars should have. As for promotion and wealth, I don't think there are so many scholars who study for this."

Song Lian considered his words and said to Zhu Yuanzhang.

At this moment, he is not speaking as a courtier of Zhu Yuanzhang, but as a representative of scholars in the world to defend.

Zhu Yuanzhang looked at Song Lian and wanted to reprimand him.

"Uncle, don't worry."

Su Jing stopped Zhu Yuanzhang, and said, "What Song Chengzhi said is not unreasonable."

Song Lian looked at Su Jing, somewhat confused about what Su Jing meant.

"Su Jing, what are you going to say?"

Zhu Yuanzhang really convinced Su Jing. He talked for a long time, talked a lot but didn't seem to say anything, how the imperial examinations will be changed, he didn't mention it at all.

Su Jing smiled and continued: "What I want to say is that promotion and wealth and self-cultivation and governance are not contradictory things. Only by promotion and wealth can one better cultivate one's morality and govern the country, and if one does well in self-cultivation and governance, one will naturally be able to get promoted and make a fortune , this is a positive cycle, and it cannot be turned into opposition."

"It's like in the Ming Dynasty, an official who was clean and honest was a good official. Is this standard true? Why must a good official live a poor life?"

"There are some things that we have intentionally confronted, which is wrong."

The relationship between getting promoted and getting rich and governing the country by self-cultivation seems to have really become another matter after being discussed by Su Jing.

"Why do good officials live in poverty?"

Zhu Biao murmured and repeated Su Jing's words, but what he thought of was Ma Zhiyuan's case.

In the follow-up investigation, he carefully investigated Ma Zhiyuan's interpersonal relationship, past experience and word-of-mouth among the local people.

Zhu Biao can say with certainty that Ma Zhiyuan is a good official, at least he used to be.

But it happened that such a good official lived an extremely poor life, and even because of his son's illness, he was taken advantage of by someone with a heart, and embarked on a road of no return.

"A good official should not live a poor life, Master Su is right!"

Zhu Biao spoke suddenly, and his voice was a little loud, which immediately attracted the attention of the other three.

Su Jing looked at Zhu Biao, with a dignified and complicated expression, one could tell what he was thinking of.

Ma Zhiyuan!
Su Jing also reacted immediately, and immediately said: "Niu Yi, don't think too much, some things need time to change, let's talk about vocational education first today."

If this diverges, I don't know when we will talk about it.

"The student made a slip of the tongue, I'm sorry, Teacher Su."

Zhu Biao apologized to Su Jing.

Su Jing said: "Don't worry about it, these are all trivial matters, not least Uncle and Song Chengzhi, what do you think of my statement?"

Zhu Yuanzhang also remembered the matter of Ma Zhiyuan, nodded slightly and said: "There is some truth to it."

At this time, Song Lian was still thinking about it.

After hesitating for a moment, he replied: "Uncle Ren Yuan is right. Cultivating one's morality and governing the country are not opposite to getting promoted and getting rich."

This is actually a bit against my will.

Because in Song Lian's view, scholars' ideals of self-cultivation and governing the country should be pure. How can they have the utilitarian idea of ​​being promoted and making money?

But if he said that, he might be reprimanded by Zhu Yuanzhang again.

Because of reality, this is not what Song Lian thought. There are really very few scholars who can always maintain the ideal of self-cultivation and governance!

Echoing Su Jing, at least it shows that scholars still have ideals and pursuits.

Hearing Song Lian's words, Su Jing laughed. This was a small trap of his, and Song Lian didn't seem to notice it.

"Song Chengzhi, since there is no conflict between self-cultivation and governing the country and promotion and wealth, why can't scholars go to work? If scholars only know how to study, it will be of no benefit to the country, right?"

Su Jing said lightly.

Since there is no confrontation between self-cultivation and governing the country and promotion and wealth, there should be neither study nor work.

Su Jing didn't talk about the idea of ​​professional equality. This is an idea that was difficult to accept in her previous life, let alone Da Ming now.

Human rights are not equal, so how can occupations be.

"Uncle Ren Yuan, you are sophistry!"

Song Lian was at a loss for words for a while, and then he retorted: "If scholars go to work, wouldn't the world be in chaos! Is this not beneficial to the country?"

"A scholar is a scholar, and a craftsman is a craftsman. How can they be confused?"

The ideological education that Song Lian has received for a long time will not be shaken by Su Jing's words at all.

Su Jing was not in a hurry to refute. He knew that Song Lian's thoughts were actually not that important for the promotion of this matter. What was important was Zhu Yuanzhang's thoughts.

"Uncle, what do you think?"

Su Jing looked at Zhu Yuanzhang and asked.

How the emperor of Ming Dynasty viewed it is the key to the matter.

Zhu Yuanzhang said after a moment of contemplation: "Under the rule of the Ming Dynasty today, the people perform their own duties, and there really shouldn't be such a change."

Lao Zhu’s thinking is that it is best to implement what everyone does according to the established policy. The children of soldiers are still soldiers, the children of farmers are still farming, the children of craftsmen are still craftsmen... the children of emperors are still emperors.

Only in this way can the Ming Dynasty last forever and last forever.

Song Lian breathed a sigh of relief, but fortunately Zhu Yuanzhang had the same idea as him.

Su Jing shook his head and said, "Uncle, change itself cannot be prohibited. As the saying goes, it is better to be sparse than to be blocked. Isn't this imperial examination also a result of change?"

"On the surface, the imperial examination has selected talents for the country and enabled the country to achieve better development."

"Looking deeper, the imperial examination can give ordinary people a chance to stand up and cross classes. Although this opportunity is small, it can finally give the solidified class a little possibility of circulation, so that it can appease the psychology of those lower classes and let them They did not raise their ranks through rebellion, but through imperial examinations."

"I think everyone understands the truth that people go to high places and water flows to low places."

After saying this, Song Lian was already stunned.

Because Su Jing's courage really scared him.

Talking about rebellion in front of Zhu Yuanzhang, isn't it a little tired of living, and I want to die.

It's a pity that Zhu Yuanzhang's reaction did not change as Song Lian imagined, but instead he looked calm and thinking.

What Song Lian didn't know was that the topics Su Jing talked about here with Zhu Yuanzhang were much more explosive than the rebellion.

A mere rebellion is not enough to make Zhu Yuanzhang have too many mood swings.

"The circulation of the class, the imperial examination is to comfort the lower classes."

Zhu Yuanzhang frowned and repeated Su Jing's words, the more he said it, the more reasonable he felt.

The solidification of the class is the expectation of the upper class, but the lower class must also have the idea of ​​​​changing the class. If there is no normal channel at all, then the lower class will directly use force to get through.

Just like Zhu Yuanzhang rebelled.

(End of this chapter)