Daming: Old Zhu, we agreed not to rush!
Chapter 291 Maybe it's just the wrong place
Chapter 291 Maybe it's just the wrong place
Zhu Yuanzhang's muttering made Song Lian nervous, and what Su Jing said seemed to have touched Zhu Yuanzhang's heart.
But when he thought that Su Jing even said the words of rebellion just now, and Zhu Yuanzhang still looked calm, Song Lian didn't even have the courage to explain.
Good guy, if the old man doesn't know how to count the relationship between the two of you, wouldn't it be bad luck.
Song Lian has his own ideals and pursuits, and also has the character of a literati.
But it doesn't mean that he has to jump into the fire pit, this fire pit is not ordinary big.
"Su Jing, the imperial examination is a channel for class transition. What you said is really good. If this is the case, the imperial examination cannot be changed!"
Zhu Yuanzhang looked at Su Jing and said.
Now Lao Zhu, his mind has been caught by Su Jing. Originally, when he first came, he still thought about solving the matter quickly and going back to deal with government affairs as soon as possible.
Su Jing said lightly: "Uncle, I know you are in a hurry, but don't worry, and Song Chengzhi, I know you still can't accept this, right?"
Song Lian was a little embarrassed when asked by Su Jing, he didn't know whether he should answer.
After all, Zhu Yuanzhang is just looking at himself at this meeting.
"Uncle Ren Yuan, let's talk about the imperial examination and your vocational education today."
Song Lian had to forcibly pull the topic back.
Su Jing smiled, and did not make things difficult for Song Lian, and continued: "Okay, let's talk about the imperial examination. There are many scholars in the world who take part in the imperial examination, but only 300 are selected every three years. There are a large number of scholars. Year after year, many scholars don't have to give birth, and are supported by their families. Year after year, they suck the blood of their families. .But what if there is no high school?"
"For Your Majesty, and for Song Chengzhi, the scholars you see are all those who have been listed on the gold list. Have you ever thought about those who failed?"
"Those scholars are the majority of scholars in this world. Should they spend their entire lives for such an imperial examination?"
The imperial examination is a single-plank bridge for thousands of troops to cross, and after all, only a few can be named on the gold list.
Su Jing directed Zhu Yuanzhang's attention to those scholars who were not capable enough to make the list, because he believed that Zhu Yuanzhang was not an emperor who could not see those people.
"Uncle Ren Yuan, this old man thinks that this matter is a common thing. The title of the gold list is a matter of selecting the best among the best. If you have no ability, it is normal for you to fail the exam. How can you blame others?"
Song Lian said to Su Jing, very righteous.
Of course, for Song Lian, the person in charge of the imperial examination, the loser should not have been in his eyes.
"Song Chengzhi, you're right, you can't blame others for your lack of ability."
Su Jing nodded, and then changed the topic: "But are these high school graduates really capable? What if I say that they are just nerds who can read dead books?"
Reading and reading, whether it is in the past or in the present life, there are many nerds.
I can only read books, and I don't know anything else except books.
"Uncle Renyuan, aren't you talking too much? Reading can be wise and wise, so how can you be an idiot?"
Song Lian looked at Su Jing, and his tone was much tougher.
After all, what Su Jing said was already directly attacking scholars.
Su Jing smiled and said: "Song Chengzhi, it seems that you don't quite believe it, so how about we make a bet?"
bet?
Song Lian was taken aback for a moment, but then nodded and said: "What bet, the old man took it."
Even without hearing what Su Jing said, Song Lian responded directly.
He believed that in front of Zhu Yuanzhang, Su Jing would not make any excessive bets.
Su Jing said lightly: "Don't worry, Song Chengzhi, how about listening to uncle's opinion first? Uncle, how about it, can you be a witness for our bet?"
Emperor Zhu Yuanzhang is right in front of him, so he can't be regarded as air.
"Okay, I'll give you a testimony, Su Jing, what is the content of your bet?"
Zhu Yuanzhang said with a smile, and became curious about this bet.
Su Jing said indifferently: "Now the children's examination has ended, and the rural examination has been advanced several months. Those who pass the provincial examination are Juren, and they are already qualified to be officials. My bet is very simple. I bet on whether these Juren can pass. Uncle's practical ability interview."
Although it is called the rural examination, it is just a second-level examination after the children's examination, but this rural examination is not a rural examination, but a higher level, that is, the unified examination at the prefectural level.
In terms of analogy, it is the provincial level examination in Su Jing's previous life, the examination questions are issued by the province, and the number of places is limited.
Those who can pass the provincial examination are those who have fought among thousands of students.
They will then take the third-level exam. Usually, there are thousands of people who take the exam. There are 6000 to 3000 people in years with more, and [-] to [-] people in years with fewer.
But these people are not all the Juren of the past. Those who passed the provincial examination a few years ago but failed in the general examination still came to continue the examination.
Combined with the number of Daming prefectures, in fact, on average, the number of people who passed the rural examination in one prefecture was hundreds.
The strength of these people can be imagined.
"Oh, let me ask a practical question?"
Zhu Yuanzhang was a little surprised, because Su Jing's bet was tantamount to advancing the palace examination.
The normal process should be that after the general examination, the Jinshi who won the list will enter the Jinluan Hall, and after Zhu Yuanzhang personally writes the questions to test the school, he will determine the ranking of the No. [-] scholar.
Now that Su Jing asked Zhu Yuanzhang to come up with the questions himself directly after the provincial examination, wouldn't that mean it was ahead of schedule?
"That's right, I know that there are a lot of juren. Song Chengzhi can designate the juren from which prefecture, I don't care. I said that none of these juren can answer the practical questions of the uncle."
Su Jing nodded, the content of the bet is almost the same.
"It's interesting, yes, I agree, Su Jing."
Zhu Yuanzhang agreed with a smile, and he also wanted to know how talented the candidates for the first imperial examination were.
"Song Lian, what do you think? Is there something wrong with such a bet?"
Zhu Yuanzhang asked Song Lian again.
Song Lian immediately said: "Master, I don't have any questions. My Ming Juren will never fail to answer the master's practical questions."
Song Lian is very confident at the moment, and he is still very confident in the scholars of Ming Dynasty.
"Okay, that's it!"
Zhu Yuanzhang laughed, then thought of something, and said, "Then what is your bet?"
A bet cannot be made without a bet, and a bet without a bet is not considered valid.
Song Lian took the lead and said: "If I win, how about inviting Uncle Renyuan to enter the Hanlin Academy?"
Opening the mouth is to recruit Su Jing to become a Hanlin Bachelor, my good guy, this bet is really a bit too good.
There are so many scholars in the world, but too few can join the Imperial Academy, which is the envy of countless scholars.
Song Lian's words are a great recognition of Su Jing.
"Not bad bet, very good, Su Jing, how about you."
Zhu Yuanzhang nodded and directly agreed to Song Lian's proposal.
He himself wanted Su Jing to become an official in the court. Although the Imperial Academy was not the best choice, at least it could keep Su Jing.
Su Jing looked at the two of them, and for a moment felt that she had been tricked.
However, Zhu Yuanzhang, as the Son of Heaven, should not deliberately release water when he is taking the practical questions of Juren.
After all, he is the Son of Heaven, so it's impossible to do such dirty things just to win, right?
"Su Jing, haven't you thought about it yet?"
Zhu Yuanzhang asked Su Jing.
Su Jing wandered his mind for a while, and said, "Then I want a collection of Song Chengzhi's essays. So far, I want a collection of poems and articles written by Song Chengzhi."
Song Lian's collection of articles and poems is definitely a very precious thing.
After all, money is not attractive to Su Jing, and Su Jing doesn't want power.
Song Lian's anthology is very suitable.
Especially the ones he sorted out by himself, once learned by scholars in this world, they will definitely be widely sought after.
Such things, Su Jing is still very happy to collect.
"Okay, then Song Lian's anthology."
Zhu Yuanzhang directly helped Song Lian agree.
In fact, no matter what Su Jing said, Zhu Yuanzhang would agree. After all, if Su Jing lost, he would become an official in the court.
This is something Zhu Yuanzhang thinks about day and night.
Song Lian was a little surprised at first when he heard that Su Jing wanted his own collection of essays, but then he became a little ecstatic.
The level of my own poetry and articles is still there.
Since ancient times, there is no first in literature, and there is no second in martial arts. Literati like their articles and poems to be recognized by others.
"Well, then we will wait until after the provincial examination. Now let's continue talking about the imperial examination."
Su Jing changed the topic back, and continued: "For the time being, regardless of whether these scholars who have won the exam have the ability to deal with practical matters, let's just say that among them, there are some scholars who have been in the exam for many years. At this age, even if you are an official, you may not have enough mental strength to take on great responsibilities."
"After all, only with a good body and sufficient energy can one keep a clear mind at all times and do one's job well. People who are old and frail are more prone to problems."
Don't talk about ability or age, Su Jing's angle is still very novel.
However, after he finished speaking just now, Song Lian retorted: "Uncle Renyuan's words are wrong. The older you are, the deeper you accumulate, the stronger your natural ability. If you are old, if you look at history, there are countless old and strong officials, how can you use age to judge work ability?"
For this system of ancient feudal dynasties, if officials did not commit crimes, they would basically be punished until death.
Therefore, there are many veterans, and as long as there is no accident, they will basically become veterans.
There is nothing wrong with Song Lian's words.
Zhu Yuanzhang also said: "Su Jing, what you said is too biased. How can there be such a connection between age and ability?"
After all, it is a society dominated by Confucianism, and the idea of respecting the elders has always been a tradition.
Su Jing's words have already challenged the traditional rules.
After all, everyone will be old, and no one wants to be abandoned when they are old.
Even Zhu Biao, looking at Su Jing now, is full of doubts.
Su Jing was very indifferent, and said: "I don't think that being older is less capable. I also agree with the saying that the older you are, the deeper you accumulate, but this is based on the premise that one person is deeply involved in an industry."
"For example, if a carpenter has been working as a carpenter for ten years, then his carpentry skills must be better than those new to the industry. The same is true for being an official. After ten years of being an official, naturally he can handle government affairs better than just being an official. Of course, There is no shortage of young geniuses, but such geniuses are in the minority after all, so we don’t need to worry about it.”
"There are also late bloomers who suddenly develop their skills in old age, or start a career in old age, but those are still the exception."
"Since we are discussing this matter, we must discuss the general situation. Uncle, Mr. Song, it's okay for us to say so."
Su Jing looked at Zhu Yuanzhang and Song Lian, speaking with reason and evidence.
Zhu Yuanzhang nodded: "That's right, special cases are not advisable, only common cases are worth discussing."
"Uncle Ren Yuan's words are justified. Whether it is young or late blooming, it is not the situation that most people should have."
Song Lian also nodded.
Su Jing said: "Very well, since you agree with this point, then I understand what I mean. These scholars who have been selected for half a hundred years have spent more time in accumulating experience as officials than younger ones. Juren is much less, right?"
"And it took them half their lives to finally win the exam, which also shows that their talents in reading and learning have really not reached the top level. Of course, their intelligence must be extremely good."
"My opinion is that such talents may just be used in the wrong direction. If they can be used in the right direction, they can exert their greatest value."
This is what Su Jing wants to do.
Scholars who can pass the exam must have outstanding brains.
It is really too wasteful for these people's minds to keep studying the words of sages and discussing internal affairs.
If such a brain develops in the direction of science, it will definitely greatly promote the progress of science!
Science, of course, cannot be developed by Su Jing alone. In ancient Chinese history, there were many scientific researchers, and their research was no worse than that of the West, nor later than that of the West.
But why is there a lag?
That's because there is no soil and environment for scientific development. In such an environment, there must first be enough scientific researchers.
"Uncle Renyuan, all things are inferior, but reading is high. How can reading be said to be in the wrong place?"
Song Lian immediately retorted.
In his mind, reading is the only thing to cut the highest, and doing other things is a waste.
But Zhu Yuanzhang is different. As an emperor, he has always valued the practical ability of officials. He is also a pragmatic person. If he can make Ming Dynasty stronger, it is worth supporting.
These words of Su Jing are not empty words, but are really supported by practical examples.
In the Agricultural College, there are not many people who are good at reading, but it happened that Daming's grain production increased greatly. This is a great thing that benefits the country and the people!
Zhu Yuanzhang looked at Su Jing and said, "Su Jing, what is the right direction you said?"
(End of this chapter)
Zhu Yuanzhang's muttering made Song Lian nervous, and what Su Jing said seemed to have touched Zhu Yuanzhang's heart.
But when he thought that Su Jing even said the words of rebellion just now, and Zhu Yuanzhang still looked calm, Song Lian didn't even have the courage to explain.
Good guy, if the old man doesn't know how to count the relationship between the two of you, wouldn't it be bad luck.
Song Lian has his own ideals and pursuits, and also has the character of a literati.
But it doesn't mean that he has to jump into the fire pit, this fire pit is not ordinary big.
"Su Jing, the imperial examination is a channel for class transition. What you said is really good. If this is the case, the imperial examination cannot be changed!"
Zhu Yuanzhang looked at Su Jing and said.
Now Lao Zhu, his mind has been caught by Su Jing. Originally, when he first came, he still thought about solving the matter quickly and going back to deal with government affairs as soon as possible.
Su Jing said lightly: "Uncle, I know you are in a hurry, but don't worry, and Song Chengzhi, I know you still can't accept this, right?"
Song Lian was a little embarrassed when asked by Su Jing, he didn't know whether he should answer.
After all, Zhu Yuanzhang is just looking at himself at this meeting.
"Uncle Ren Yuan, let's talk about the imperial examination and your vocational education today."
Song Lian had to forcibly pull the topic back.
Su Jing smiled, and did not make things difficult for Song Lian, and continued: "Okay, let's talk about the imperial examination. There are many scholars in the world who take part in the imperial examination, but only 300 are selected every three years. There are a large number of scholars. Year after year, many scholars don't have to give birth, and are supported by their families. Year after year, they suck the blood of their families. .But what if there is no high school?"
"For Your Majesty, and for Song Chengzhi, the scholars you see are all those who have been listed on the gold list. Have you ever thought about those who failed?"
"Those scholars are the majority of scholars in this world. Should they spend their entire lives for such an imperial examination?"
The imperial examination is a single-plank bridge for thousands of troops to cross, and after all, only a few can be named on the gold list.
Su Jing directed Zhu Yuanzhang's attention to those scholars who were not capable enough to make the list, because he believed that Zhu Yuanzhang was not an emperor who could not see those people.
"Uncle Ren Yuan, this old man thinks that this matter is a common thing. The title of the gold list is a matter of selecting the best among the best. If you have no ability, it is normal for you to fail the exam. How can you blame others?"
Song Lian said to Su Jing, very righteous.
Of course, for Song Lian, the person in charge of the imperial examination, the loser should not have been in his eyes.
"Song Chengzhi, you're right, you can't blame others for your lack of ability."
Su Jing nodded, and then changed the topic: "But are these high school graduates really capable? What if I say that they are just nerds who can read dead books?"
Reading and reading, whether it is in the past or in the present life, there are many nerds.
I can only read books, and I don't know anything else except books.
"Uncle Renyuan, aren't you talking too much? Reading can be wise and wise, so how can you be an idiot?"
Song Lian looked at Su Jing, and his tone was much tougher.
After all, what Su Jing said was already directly attacking scholars.
Su Jing smiled and said: "Song Chengzhi, it seems that you don't quite believe it, so how about we make a bet?"
bet?
Song Lian was taken aback for a moment, but then nodded and said: "What bet, the old man took it."
Even without hearing what Su Jing said, Song Lian responded directly.
He believed that in front of Zhu Yuanzhang, Su Jing would not make any excessive bets.
Su Jing said lightly: "Don't worry, Song Chengzhi, how about listening to uncle's opinion first? Uncle, how about it, can you be a witness for our bet?"
Emperor Zhu Yuanzhang is right in front of him, so he can't be regarded as air.
"Okay, I'll give you a testimony, Su Jing, what is the content of your bet?"
Zhu Yuanzhang said with a smile, and became curious about this bet.
Su Jing said indifferently: "Now the children's examination has ended, and the rural examination has been advanced several months. Those who pass the provincial examination are Juren, and they are already qualified to be officials. My bet is very simple. I bet on whether these Juren can pass. Uncle's practical ability interview."
Although it is called the rural examination, it is just a second-level examination after the children's examination, but this rural examination is not a rural examination, but a higher level, that is, the unified examination at the prefectural level.
In terms of analogy, it is the provincial level examination in Su Jing's previous life, the examination questions are issued by the province, and the number of places is limited.
Those who can pass the provincial examination are those who have fought among thousands of students.
They will then take the third-level exam. Usually, there are thousands of people who take the exam. There are 6000 to 3000 people in years with more, and [-] to [-] people in years with fewer.
But these people are not all the Juren of the past. Those who passed the provincial examination a few years ago but failed in the general examination still came to continue the examination.
Combined with the number of Daming prefectures, in fact, on average, the number of people who passed the rural examination in one prefecture was hundreds.
The strength of these people can be imagined.
"Oh, let me ask a practical question?"
Zhu Yuanzhang was a little surprised, because Su Jing's bet was tantamount to advancing the palace examination.
The normal process should be that after the general examination, the Jinshi who won the list will enter the Jinluan Hall, and after Zhu Yuanzhang personally writes the questions to test the school, he will determine the ranking of the No. [-] scholar.
Now that Su Jing asked Zhu Yuanzhang to come up with the questions himself directly after the provincial examination, wouldn't that mean it was ahead of schedule?
"That's right, I know that there are a lot of juren. Song Chengzhi can designate the juren from which prefecture, I don't care. I said that none of these juren can answer the practical questions of the uncle."
Su Jing nodded, the content of the bet is almost the same.
"It's interesting, yes, I agree, Su Jing."
Zhu Yuanzhang agreed with a smile, and he also wanted to know how talented the candidates for the first imperial examination were.
"Song Lian, what do you think? Is there something wrong with such a bet?"
Zhu Yuanzhang asked Song Lian again.
Song Lian immediately said: "Master, I don't have any questions. My Ming Juren will never fail to answer the master's practical questions."
Song Lian is very confident at the moment, and he is still very confident in the scholars of Ming Dynasty.
"Okay, that's it!"
Zhu Yuanzhang laughed, then thought of something, and said, "Then what is your bet?"
A bet cannot be made without a bet, and a bet without a bet is not considered valid.
Song Lian took the lead and said: "If I win, how about inviting Uncle Renyuan to enter the Hanlin Academy?"
Opening the mouth is to recruit Su Jing to become a Hanlin Bachelor, my good guy, this bet is really a bit too good.
There are so many scholars in the world, but too few can join the Imperial Academy, which is the envy of countless scholars.
Song Lian's words are a great recognition of Su Jing.
"Not bad bet, very good, Su Jing, how about you."
Zhu Yuanzhang nodded and directly agreed to Song Lian's proposal.
He himself wanted Su Jing to become an official in the court. Although the Imperial Academy was not the best choice, at least it could keep Su Jing.
Su Jing looked at the two of them, and for a moment felt that she had been tricked.
However, Zhu Yuanzhang, as the Son of Heaven, should not deliberately release water when he is taking the practical questions of Juren.
After all, he is the Son of Heaven, so it's impossible to do such dirty things just to win, right?
"Su Jing, haven't you thought about it yet?"
Zhu Yuanzhang asked Su Jing.
Su Jing wandered his mind for a while, and said, "Then I want a collection of Song Chengzhi's essays. So far, I want a collection of poems and articles written by Song Chengzhi."
Song Lian's collection of articles and poems is definitely a very precious thing.
After all, money is not attractive to Su Jing, and Su Jing doesn't want power.
Song Lian's anthology is very suitable.
Especially the ones he sorted out by himself, once learned by scholars in this world, they will definitely be widely sought after.
Such things, Su Jing is still very happy to collect.
"Okay, then Song Lian's anthology."
Zhu Yuanzhang directly helped Song Lian agree.
In fact, no matter what Su Jing said, Zhu Yuanzhang would agree. After all, if Su Jing lost, he would become an official in the court.
This is something Zhu Yuanzhang thinks about day and night.
Song Lian was a little surprised at first when he heard that Su Jing wanted his own collection of essays, but then he became a little ecstatic.
The level of my own poetry and articles is still there.
Since ancient times, there is no first in literature, and there is no second in martial arts. Literati like their articles and poems to be recognized by others.
"Well, then we will wait until after the provincial examination. Now let's continue talking about the imperial examination."
Su Jing changed the topic back, and continued: "For the time being, regardless of whether these scholars who have won the exam have the ability to deal with practical matters, let's just say that among them, there are some scholars who have been in the exam for many years. At this age, even if you are an official, you may not have enough mental strength to take on great responsibilities."
"After all, only with a good body and sufficient energy can one keep a clear mind at all times and do one's job well. People who are old and frail are more prone to problems."
Don't talk about ability or age, Su Jing's angle is still very novel.
However, after he finished speaking just now, Song Lian retorted: "Uncle Renyuan's words are wrong. The older you are, the deeper you accumulate, the stronger your natural ability. If you are old, if you look at history, there are countless old and strong officials, how can you use age to judge work ability?"
For this system of ancient feudal dynasties, if officials did not commit crimes, they would basically be punished until death.
Therefore, there are many veterans, and as long as there is no accident, they will basically become veterans.
There is nothing wrong with Song Lian's words.
Zhu Yuanzhang also said: "Su Jing, what you said is too biased. How can there be such a connection between age and ability?"
After all, it is a society dominated by Confucianism, and the idea of respecting the elders has always been a tradition.
Su Jing's words have already challenged the traditional rules.
After all, everyone will be old, and no one wants to be abandoned when they are old.
Even Zhu Biao, looking at Su Jing now, is full of doubts.
Su Jing was very indifferent, and said: "I don't think that being older is less capable. I also agree with the saying that the older you are, the deeper you accumulate, but this is based on the premise that one person is deeply involved in an industry."
"For example, if a carpenter has been working as a carpenter for ten years, then his carpentry skills must be better than those new to the industry. The same is true for being an official. After ten years of being an official, naturally he can handle government affairs better than just being an official. Of course, There is no shortage of young geniuses, but such geniuses are in the minority after all, so we don’t need to worry about it.”
"There are also late bloomers who suddenly develop their skills in old age, or start a career in old age, but those are still the exception."
"Since we are discussing this matter, we must discuss the general situation. Uncle, Mr. Song, it's okay for us to say so."
Su Jing looked at Zhu Yuanzhang and Song Lian, speaking with reason and evidence.
Zhu Yuanzhang nodded: "That's right, special cases are not advisable, only common cases are worth discussing."
"Uncle Ren Yuan's words are justified. Whether it is young or late blooming, it is not the situation that most people should have."
Song Lian also nodded.
Su Jing said: "Very well, since you agree with this point, then I understand what I mean. These scholars who have been selected for half a hundred years have spent more time in accumulating experience as officials than younger ones. Juren is much less, right?"
"And it took them half their lives to finally win the exam, which also shows that their talents in reading and learning have really not reached the top level. Of course, their intelligence must be extremely good."
"My opinion is that such talents may just be used in the wrong direction. If they can be used in the right direction, they can exert their greatest value."
This is what Su Jing wants to do.
Scholars who can pass the exam must have outstanding brains.
It is really too wasteful for these people's minds to keep studying the words of sages and discussing internal affairs.
If such a brain develops in the direction of science, it will definitely greatly promote the progress of science!
Science, of course, cannot be developed by Su Jing alone. In ancient Chinese history, there were many scientific researchers, and their research was no worse than that of the West, nor later than that of the West.
But why is there a lag?
That's because there is no soil and environment for scientific development. In such an environment, there must first be enough scientific researchers.
"Uncle Renyuan, all things are inferior, but reading is high. How can reading be said to be in the wrong place?"
Song Lian immediately retorted.
In his mind, reading is the only thing to cut the highest, and doing other things is a waste.
But Zhu Yuanzhang is different. As an emperor, he has always valued the practical ability of officials. He is also a pragmatic person. If he can make Ming Dynasty stronger, it is worth supporting.
These words of Su Jing are not empty words, but are really supported by practical examples.
In the Agricultural College, there are not many people who are good at reading, but it happened that Daming's grain production increased greatly. This is a great thing that benefits the country and the people!
Zhu Yuanzhang looked at Su Jing and said, "Su Jing, what is the right direction you said?"
(End of this chapter)
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