technological heresy
Chapter 75
Chapter 75
The dinner ended promptly at eight o'clock.
When she walked out of the magnificent dinner hall, classmate Liu Xiaohan was very angry, and she decided to pay attention to this bad guy Ning Qing in the next 24 hours.The mood of the rest of Hanwei Group is very stable.Liu Zhixin did not disclose anything about Ning Qing to the negotiating delegation.Therefore, the members of the delegation also thought that this visit was just the chairman's plan to delay the attack, and naturally they didn't have any special expectations. Some even felt that the chairman's decision was a bit willful.
For the other side of the negotiation, the opposite is true.Almost everyone who has access to certain news probably feels confused, deeply confused at this time.When an impossible possibility arises, the first reaction of the bosses is probably that they just think it's funny.
But when more and more information supports this impossible possibility, it seems that there is a slight possibility, the bosses can't laugh anymore.Someone has to think about what impact it will have on the next negotiations if this possibility exists.What's more, if this news is true, it will not only affect the imminent referee, but also affect the development strategy of West Chip.
But the result is actually about the same.
When the Hanwei Group delegation returned to the hotel, they did not rest, but began to work overtime to discuss how to proceed with the next negotiation.Business negotiation is a very complicated job. It is necessary to guess the bottom line of the other party through constant testing, and use various methods to show one's own advantages and magnify the other party's shortcomings, so as to exert pressure and strive for a result that is beneficial to one's own side.
Especially for the Hanwei Group, because the policies promulgated by the Ryan government have already put too much pressure on them, and the situation they are facing is more complicated, so it is naturally more labor-intensive.
In a sense, Ning Qing's performance at least brought the two parties to the same starting line, because at this time, West Chip's executives were also working overtime, because they had to judge that Tony Sander had no intention of getting any information from that high school student today. How true is the information in the report?
Liu Zhixin's worries are obviously unnecessary, because the level of Westchip's meeting is obviously very high.It wasn't just those tech executives who participated, but almost all executives participated in this meeting.From this point, it can also be seen that West Chip actually attaches great importance to the acquisition initiated by Hanwei Group.
No way, although during the negotiation, West has always emphasized that they have the most advanced chip technology in the world, and the products are not worried about selling.But in fact, West's current situation is not good, and the so-called advanced is only relative to the chip industry of Yonghan Republic.
In fact, the products of West Chip in the world do not have advantages at present.It's not that their products are inferior to others, but mainly because this established chip company is facing a cost-effective problem.In addition, West Chip belongs to the kind of large-scale comprehensive chip company that has both chip design capabilities and chip manufacturing capabilities. This also means that the company has too many heavy assets. Once profits decline, it is easy to have liquidity problems .
In addition, there were some problems in the high-level decision-making in the past few years.In order to open up profit points, West Chip invested heavily in the field of smart chips and automotive chips.Judging from the market development in these years, this layout is a little bit ahead of schedule. As a result, the corresponding technology that has cost a lot of money cannot bring corresponding profits to the company for the time being.
At the same time, the input cannot be cut off.Because more and more companies are also beginning to seize the track, once they relax, they may be caught up by latecomers.So even if the concept of smart cars is still not accepted by the public, West still has to bite the bullet and continue to throw money into it.
Hence the present situation.
West Chip is short of money, short of big money.Hanwei Group is currently in urgent need of chip manufacturing technology, so the two parties sat together directly.
If an agreement can be reached in this negotiation, Hanwei Group will be able to obtain West Chip's two chip manufacturing plants abroad in Ryan. Wei Group to overcome the current difficulties.At the same time, West Chip can also get rid of outdated production capacity and obtain the most important cash flow for the company.
What was supposed to be a hit and miss deal is now stuck with a huge political donation.
According to Westchip, if they want the deal to go through smoothly, they need at least [-] million Swiss dollars to lobby the relevant government decision-makers.But Ryan didn't want to spend any of this money, more than that, so this money must be apportioned into the transaction amount of this acquisition, and it is necessary for Hanwei Group to transfer the money after signing the contract and before the official launch of the acquisition. Call West Chip.
Because West Chip cannot guarantee that the money will be spent, this acquisition will definitely be allowed.But the rule is that after the money is spent, no matter whether the lobbying is successful or not, there will be no refund.That is to say, Hanwei Group may have spent [-] million Rui Yuan, but the policy still cannot guarantee the smooth progress of the acquisition.
Although Westchip has repeatedly assured that this possibility is not great, as long as the decision-makers are willing to collect money, they will generally get things done.But from the perspective of Hanwei Group, such inexplicable risks are obviously unacceptable.This is why Liu Zhixin always laughs at himself whether the group of Rui En people think that he is here to send warmth.
If you want to get back the money you have given out, it will be an international lawsuit.
However, Westchip decided that the Hanwei Group had nowhere to go, so it refused to give in to this request.To put it bluntly, the bet is that Hanwei Group has no way out, so it started playing limit pressure.
That's why Ning Qing played that play in front of Tony Sander.The purpose is to make the West chip have an illusion and make them realize that the Hanwei Group has a way out.Of course, the best result is to make the decision-makers of West Chip feel that the acquisition proposed by Hanwei Group is actually to paralyze the technical blockade of the Ryan government, and that would be even more perfect.
Anyway, Ning Qing doesn't know if he can make money by doing this, but what is certain is that he will definitely not lose money.Moreover, Ning Qing believes that the possibility of success is very high, and the advantage of poor information may not be so obvious when used against stupid people.But if the opponents are smart people and conspiracy theorists, the effect will often be unexpectedly good.
The facts also seemed to be developing in the direction Ning Qing expected.
When Tony Sangda explained the content of his conversation with Ning Qing this afternoon, as well as some of Ning Qing's performances at that time, to the company's management as completely as possible in the conference room, everyone's expressions were very strange.
But this was not a climax. The real climax came after Tony Sander roughly recounted the conversation between the two in the afternoon, and all the high-level attendees got a stack of Ning Qing's materials in their hands.At this time, everyone finally realized that this high school student was unusual...
In fact, this information is not very complete, only Ning Qing's current school, the two papers he submitted for the International Mathematical Contest in Modeling, the program he wrote, and a question he raised.But these are actually enough.
A high school student has already been valued by two world-class mathematicians, and the mathematical problems he raised have sparked extensive discussions in the world's mathematics community. At the same time, he has also been listed as a focus of attention by an internationally renowned consulting management company. More importantly, the article on finance The innovative paper mentions the financial operation tool...
Such an awesome experience added at least [-] percent credibility to what the high school student said to Tony Sander in the afternoon.
It is understandable that high school students who can pose world-class mathematical problems help a chip laboratory solve a mathematical problem about chip design, and thus obtain a lot of information about new chips that do not need to be kept too secret.
As for why you would tell these things to the people from Westchip... Well, you can't ask a young man who is not yet young to have the same thinking as an adult.Before Ryan's defense department, there was a technical officer in his 20s who posted all the top-secret information of the country on the Internet.No matter what a child of this age does, it will not be too strange.
Not to mention that Ning Qing did not mention too many key technical details, nor did he specifically describe the details of the mathematical problem he solved. He only revealed that there is such a chip laboratory that is conducting research on a new type of chip. This kind of information is probably not top-secret. According to Tony Sander's description, Ning Qing just wanted to show off his ability in front of fellow technicians.
Is it wrong for teens to like to show off?
So although this news sounds unbelievable, there is still a possibility after all.
……
"Okay, let's all share our opinions." The meeting room was silent for about [-] minutes, enough for everyone to browse through Ning Qing's information, and the current CEO of West Chip, Eric Watt, spoke.It is impossible to give these people time to read the paper carefully, and at least half of the people in the conference room cannot understand it.
Immediately after Eric Watt finished speaking, some people began to express their opinions.
"Everyone, I think this news is likely to be false. I consulted Naldo before this meeting. He wanted to study a new chip configuration, and he probably described to me what he wanted to accomplish in the eyes of technical people. How difficult is it to design a new chip configuration. It is almost impossible to get it without several years of technical accumulation. From material selection, to design software, to hardware system research.
Ryan's restrictive measures on Hanwei Group's chips only started to be released last year. Even if Hanwei Group reacted at that time to start research and development of chip manufacturing technology, it would not be possible in time.In addition, if it is really a rainy day to develop a chip for several years, it is impossible for us not to hear any news.The above is my opinion. "
The person who expressed his opinion was Labis Crowe, the global vice president of Westchip, and one of the rare female executives of Westchip.
Her attitude was very clear, obviously she didn't quite believe Ning Qing's performance-like words.
Eric Watt nodded, and then looked at Venter Berner, Chief Technology Officer of the Chip Research Center: "Winter, what do you think?"
Went Berner, who was still studying Ning Qing's paper with his head down, looked up and looked around the conference room, then curled his lips, and after thinking for a moment, he said: "It's hard to say. From a scientific point of view, just now Ms. Crowe said It is actually true. But sometimes there are various coincidences in the development of human technology, such as a laboratory error, which may have led to the birth of a new material.
A whim of an engineer when doing related experiments may have already been a technical miracle.This kind of thing sounds like a small probability event, but if it is enlarged to thousands of laboratories, this situation is actually not uncommon.So I dare not say whether Hanwei Group really started to lay out in a special chip direction early on based on a coincidence.
In addition, Ning Qing leaked some technical details in the communication with Tony.From the professional point of view, these technical details are actually difficult to make up without samples for testing and support.It's easy to find loopholes there.It is a pity that the technical details disclosed by that little guy, including the full carbon heat dissipation structure, are feasible after computer simulation.
Based on the above reasons, I dare not make a conclusion on the authenticity of this information on behalf of the R&D Center.My personal opinion is that even if the other party has not successfully developed the corresponding chip in the laboratory, at least they should have sufficient relevant technical reserves, but I am not sure when it will be mass-produced. "
A very conservative guess, but also a very smart statement.
For these technology executives, they just provide technical reference for decision makers.When in doubt, there is no need to be too absolute.After all, it is responsible to give an accurate judgment directly.
"So, assuming that the information Ning Qing revealed is true, the chip he described is more advanced than traditional chips?" Eric Watt asked with a frown.
"Of course it is impossible to get it in the early stage, but the silicon-carbon heterogeneous configuration must have more development potential than pure silicon materials. According to Ning Qing, this kind of circuit is engraved on the inner and outer walls of carbon nanotubes, so it is a three-dimensional structure The area expanded in this way may be larger. On the other hand, carbon atoms are much smaller than silicon atoms, so this technology will probably be more competitive in more advanced manufacturing processes in the future.”
Venter Berner shrugged and answered.
Then Wente Berner turned his head to look at Tony Sanda who was sitting on his right, and said, "Tony, you are the one who was in contact with Ning Qing this afternoon, why don't you tell me your opinion?"
Tony El Sander said solemnly: "I don't think it's better than this. Tomorrow, let's find a reason and invite that young man out for a meal alone. Everyone can chat with that young man, and then judge the information. True or false? I believe that with the wisdom of everyone, I can definitely tell whether this high school student is lying or not."
(End of this chapter)
The dinner ended promptly at eight o'clock.
When she walked out of the magnificent dinner hall, classmate Liu Xiaohan was very angry, and she decided to pay attention to this bad guy Ning Qing in the next 24 hours.The mood of the rest of Hanwei Group is very stable.Liu Zhixin did not disclose anything about Ning Qing to the negotiating delegation.Therefore, the members of the delegation also thought that this visit was just the chairman's plan to delay the attack, and naturally they didn't have any special expectations. Some even felt that the chairman's decision was a bit willful.
For the other side of the negotiation, the opposite is true.Almost everyone who has access to certain news probably feels confused, deeply confused at this time.When an impossible possibility arises, the first reaction of the bosses is probably that they just think it's funny.
But when more and more information supports this impossible possibility, it seems that there is a slight possibility, the bosses can't laugh anymore.Someone has to think about what impact it will have on the next negotiations if this possibility exists.What's more, if this news is true, it will not only affect the imminent referee, but also affect the development strategy of West Chip.
But the result is actually about the same.
When the Hanwei Group delegation returned to the hotel, they did not rest, but began to work overtime to discuss how to proceed with the next negotiation.Business negotiation is a very complicated job. It is necessary to guess the bottom line of the other party through constant testing, and use various methods to show one's own advantages and magnify the other party's shortcomings, so as to exert pressure and strive for a result that is beneficial to one's own side.
Especially for the Hanwei Group, because the policies promulgated by the Ryan government have already put too much pressure on them, and the situation they are facing is more complicated, so it is naturally more labor-intensive.
In a sense, Ning Qing's performance at least brought the two parties to the same starting line, because at this time, West Chip's executives were also working overtime, because they had to judge that Tony Sander had no intention of getting any information from that high school student today. How true is the information in the report?
Liu Zhixin's worries are obviously unnecessary, because the level of Westchip's meeting is obviously very high.It wasn't just those tech executives who participated, but almost all executives participated in this meeting.From this point, it can also be seen that West Chip actually attaches great importance to the acquisition initiated by Hanwei Group.
No way, although during the negotiation, West has always emphasized that they have the most advanced chip technology in the world, and the products are not worried about selling.But in fact, West's current situation is not good, and the so-called advanced is only relative to the chip industry of Yonghan Republic.
In fact, the products of West Chip in the world do not have advantages at present.It's not that their products are inferior to others, but mainly because this established chip company is facing a cost-effective problem.In addition, West Chip belongs to the kind of large-scale comprehensive chip company that has both chip design capabilities and chip manufacturing capabilities. This also means that the company has too many heavy assets. Once profits decline, it is easy to have liquidity problems .
In addition, there were some problems in the high-level decision-making in the past few years.In order to open up profit points, West Chip invested heavily in the field of smart chips and automotive chips.Judging from the market development in these years, this layout is a little bit ahead of schedule. As a result, the corresponding technology that has cost a lot of money cannot bring corresponding profits to the company for the time being.
At the same time, the input cannot be cut off.Because more and more companies are also beginning to seize the track, once they relax, they may be caught up by latecomers.So even if the concept of smart cars is still not accepted by the public, West still has to bite the bullet and continue to throw money into it.
Hence the present situation.
West Chip is short of money, short of big money.Hanwei Group is currently in urgent need of chip manufacturing technology, so the two parties sat together directly.
If an agreement can be reached in this negotiation, Hanwei Group will be able to obtain West Chip's two chip manufacturing plants abroad in Ryan. Wei Group to overcome the current difficulties.At the same time, West Chip can also get rid of outdated production capacity and obtain the most important cash flow for the company.
What was supposed to be a hit and miss deal is now stuck with a huge political donation.
According to Westchip, if they want the deal to go through smoothly, they need at least [-] million Swiss dollars to lobby the relevant government decision-makers.But Ryan didn't want to spend any of this money, more than that, so this money must be apportioned into the transaction amount of this acquisition, and it is necessary for Hanwei Group to transfer the money after signing the contract and before the official launch of the acquisition. Call West Chip.
Because West Chip cannot guarantee that the money will be spent, this acquisition will definitely be allowed.But the rule is that after the money is spent, no matter whether the lobbying is successful or not, there will be no refund.That is to say, Hanwei Group may have spent [-] million Rui Yuan, but the policy still cannot guarantee the smooth progress of the acquisition.
Although Westchip has repeatedly assured that this possibility is not great, as long as the decision-makers are willing to collect money, they will generally get things done.But from the perspective of Hanwei Group, such inexplicable risks are obviously unacceptable.This is why Liu Zhixin always laughs at himself whether the group of Rui En people think that he is here to send warmth.
If you want to get back the money you have given out, it will be an international lawsuit.
However, Westchip decided that the Hanwei Group had nowhere to go, so it refused to give in to this request.To put it bluntly, the bet is that Hanwei Group has no way out, so it started playing limit pressure.
That's why Ning Qing played that play in front of Tony Sander.The purpose is to make the West chip have an illusion and make them realize that the Hanwei Group has a way out.Of course, the best result is to make the decision-makers of West Chip feel that the acquisition proposed by Hanwei Group is actually to paralyze the technical blockade of the Ryan government, and that would be even more perfect.
Anyway, Ning Qing doesn't know if he can make money by doing this, but what is certain is that he will definitely not lose money.Moreover, Ning Qing believes that the possibility of success is very high, and the advantage of poor information may not be so obvious when used against stupid people.But if the opponents are smart people and conspiracy theorists, the effect will often be unexpectedly good.
The facts also seemed to be developing in the direction Ning Qing expected.
When Tony Sangda explained the content of his conversation with Ning Qing this afternoon, as well as some of Ning Qing's performances at that time, to the company's management as completely as possible in the conference room, everyone's expressions were very strange.
But this was not a climax. The real climax came after Tony Sander roughly recounted the conversation between the two in the afternoon, and all the high-level attendees got a stack of Ning Qing's materials in their hands.At this time, everyone finally realized that this high school student was unusual...
In fact, this information is not very complete, only Ning Qing's current school, the two papers he submitted for the International Mathematical Contest in Modeling, the program he wrote, and a question he raised.But these are actually enough.
A high school student has already been valued by two world-class mathematicians, and the mathematical problems he raised have sparked extensive discussions in the world's mathematics community. At the same time, he has also been listed as a focus of attention by an internationally renowned consulting management company. More importantly, the article on finance The innovative paper mentions the financial operation tool...
Such an awesome experience added at least [-] percent credibility to what the high school student said to Tony Sander in the afternoon.
It is understandable that high school students who can pose world-class mathematical problems help a chip laboratory solve a mathematical problem about chip design, and thus obtain a lot of information about new chips that do not need to be kept too secret.
As for why you would tell these things to the people from Westchip... Well, you can't ask a young man who is not yet young to have the same thinking as an adult.Before Ryan's defense department, there was a technical officer in his 20s who posted all the top-secret information of the country on the Internet.No matter what a child of this age does, it will not be too strange.
Not to mention that Ning Qing did not mention too many key technical details, nor did he specifically describe the details of the mathematical problem he solved. He only revealed that there is such a chip laboratory that is conducting research on a new type of chip. This kind of information is probably not top-secret. According to Tony Sander's description, Ning Qing just wanted to show off his ability in front of fellow technicians.
Is it wrong for teens to like to show off?
So although this news sounds unbelievable, there is still a possibility after all.
……
"Okay, let's all share our opinions." The meeting room was silent for about [-] minutes, enough for everyone to browse through Ning Qing's information, and the current CEO of West Chip, Eric Watt, spoke.It is impossible to give these people time to read the paper carefully, and at least half of the people in the conference room cannot understand it.
Immediately after Eric Watt finished speaking, some people began to express their opinions.
"Everyone, I think this news is likely to be false. I consulted Naldo before this meeting. He wanted to study a new chip configuration, and he probably described to me what he wanted to accomplish in the eyes of technical people. How difficult is it to design a new chip configuration. It is almost impossible to get it without several years of technical accumulation. From material selection, to design software, to hardware system research.
Ryan's restrictive measures on Hanwei Group's chips only started to be released last year. Even if Hanwei Group reacted at that time to start research and development of chip manufacturing technology, it would not be possible in time.In addition, if it is really a rainy day to develop a chip for several years, it is impossible for us not to hear any news.The above is my opinion. "
The person who expressed his opinion was Labis Crowe, the global vice president of Westchip, and one of the rare female executives of Westchip.
Her attitude was very clear, obviously she didn't quite believe Ning Qing's performance-like words.
Eric Watt nodded, and then looked at Venter Berner, Chief Technology Officer of the Chip Research Center: "Winter, what do you think?"
Went Berner, who was still studying Ning Qing's paper with his head down, looked up and looked around the conference room, then curled his lips, and after thinking for a moment, he said: "It's hard to say. From a scientific point of view, just now Ms. Crowe said It is actually true. But sometimes there are various coincidences in the development of human technology, such as a laboratory error, which may have led to the birth of a new material.
A whim of an engineer when doing related experiments may have already been a technical miracle.This kind of thing sounds like a small probability event, but if it is enlarged to thousands of laboratories, this situation is actually not uncommon.So I dare not say whether Hanwei Group really started to lay out in a special chip direction early on based on a coincidence.
In addition, Ning Qing leaked some technical details in the communication with Tony.From the professional point of view, these technical details are actually difficult to make up without samples for testing and support.It's easy to find loopholes there.It is a pity that the technical details disclosed by that little guy, including the full carbon heat dissipation structure, are feasible after computer simulation.
Based on the above reasons, I dare not make a conclusion on the authenticity of this information on behalf of the R&D Center.My personal opinion is that even if the other party has not successfully developed the corresponding chip in the laboratory, at least they should have sufficient relevant technical reserves, but I am not sure when it will be mass-produced. "
A very conservative guess, but also a very smart statement.
For these technology executives, they just provide technical reference for decision makers.When in doubt, there is no need to be too absolute.After all, it is responsible to give an accurate judgment directly.
"So, assuming that the information Ning Qing revealed is true, the chip he described is more advanced than traditional chips?" Eric Watt asked with a frown.
"Of course it is impossible to get it in the early stage, but the silicon-carbon heterogeneous configuration must have more development potential than pure silicon materials. According to Ning Qing, this kind of circuit is engraved on the inner and outer walls of carbon nanotubes, so it is a three-dimensional structure The area expanded in this way may be larger. On the other hand, carbon atoms are much smaller than silicon atoms, so this technology will probably be more competitive in more advanced manufacturing processes in the future.”
Venter Berner shrugged and answered.
Then Wente Berner turned his head to look at Tony Sanda who was sitting on his right, and said, "Tony, you are the one who was in contact with Ning Qing this afternoon, why don't you tell me your opinion?"
Tony El Sander said solemnly: "I don't think it's better than this. Tomorrow, let's find a reason and invite that young man out for a meal alone. Everyone can chat with that young man, and then judge the information. True or false? I believe that with the wisdom of everyone, I can definitely tell whether this high school student is lying or not."
(End of this chapter)
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