Smart Industrial Empire
963 Don't fool us with obsolete engines
Ma Fengshan is still very familiar with Mason Hand.When he was in the United States, he had the most exchanges with Mason Hand, the deputy chief designer of McDonnell Douglas.
Many of Ma Fengshan's aircraft testing solutions and design inspirations were obtained from arguing with this old American man who was about his age.
People are divided into national boundaries and races, but academics have no national boundaries.
At least, that's the case with Mason Hand.
Perhaps, he was fired by McDonnell Douglas for revealing too much core technology to the Chinese.Otherwise, based on the old man Hand's experience in the aircraft design industry and his achievements, even if McDonnell Douglas went bankrupt and was acquired by Boeing, this aircraft designer who loves aircraft design to such a distorted degree should be an aircraft designer at Boeing instead of entering Just Pratt & Whitney working on aircraft propulsion systems...
What Catherine said next confirmed Ma Fengshan's conjecture.
"Mr. Hand left McDonnell Douglas for some reasons after the high bypass ratio exchange meeting, and joined Pratt & Whitney as a project supervisor engineer..." Catherine didn't know much about these things.
Because when Hande joined Pratt & Whitney, she was just an ordinary middle-level manager of Pratt & Whitney.
Along the way, Ma Fengshan and Catherine were very involved in chatting. As Catherine who specially received Yunfei and his party, she did not neglect Yunfei and others, and set up some topics from time to time to bring Yunfei and others into the discussion topic. , so that Yunfei and others did not feel left out.
This woman can become the vice president of business of such a huge high-tech company as Pratt & Whitney at the age of more than 40, which definitely does not depend on her body.At least, along the way, she and Ma Fengshan exchanged a lot of professional and technical things.
And these things are not those dead parameters.
The 10-minute drive passed quickly under the communication between Catherine and Ma Fengshan.
Yun Fei really wanted to ask about the relationship between Ma Fengshan and the Hand whom Catherine was talking about, but Ma Fengshan simply ignored him.It made him feel like a cat scratching his heart, and there was nothing he could do except to be anxious.
Founded in the early [-]th century, Pratt & Whitney should be the earliest professional aircraft engine design and production company in the whole world.The gate of their company is not as majestic as some companies in China, and the huge factory area is also very simple and old. From the outside, this company does not look like a company with an annual turnover of billions of dollars at all. high tech company.
When the motorcade just arrived at Pratt & Whitney's administrative building, Pratt & Whitney's president, Blacker, was leading several employees waiting for Yunfei and his party at the door.
Before Catherine introduced him, a short old man with gray hair among the waiting people let out an exaggerated cry.Then he rushed towards Ma Fengshan.Ma Fengshan, who has always been more serious, also laughed exaggeratedly, stepped forward and hugged this old white man who was about the same size as him tightly.
When Yun Fei saw this scene, he felt that there was only one word in his heart that could describe it—passionate!
It seems that this old man is Mason Hand, the aircraft designer who has a close relationship with Ma Fengshan, as Catherine said.
After some introductions, Blacker brought Yun Fei and his party into the conference room that had been arranged earlier.
This allowed everyone to see the efficiency of the Americans. After asking Yunfei and his party if they needed to go to the hotel to rest and get a negative answer, they were ready to go straight to the point.After all, what they are facing is not the heads of state-owned units and government departments with a strong institutional style in China. The guys who come out to talk about things are the second, and the main purpose is travel and shopping.
private enterprise.The emphasis is on efficiency.
Profit is what they are after.
And for them, time is money.
"Everyone, we currently need low-noise, low-fuel consumption, high-efficiency environmentally friendly engines with a thrust between 17500 pounds and 22500 pounds. At present, we are mainly developing new regional airliners with 90 to 110 seats. A new type of regional airliner with an order of one hundred. For you, this is really not a big order..." Ma Fengshan directly stated their intention of coming.
In terms of large aircraft, the engine is the core component.And it's the most important part.
This is basically the most expensive part as well.
Although arj-21 is a small regional airliner, the final market price is estimated to be around 3000 million US dollars, but the price of the two engines needs to be between 400 million and 600 million US dollars.
The budget of Ma Fengshan and others for an engine is basically between 200 million and 300 million US dollars.If it is impossible to negotiate, Yunfei is also acceptable if the price exceeds US$300 million.After all, the market price for one of those big mainline engines is over $1000 million.
东方航空公司曾经在空客购买了二十架空客a330-300客机,使用的英国罗尔斯.罗伊斯公司的瑞达700发动机,推力在67500磅——71100磅,总价格一共是四亿5000万美元。这仅仅只是发动机的价格。
As the core component of an aircraft, the price of the engine accounts for almost one-seventh to one-fifth of the total cost of the aircraft.If you can't produce an engine yourself, it is inevitable that you will be slaughtered.
According to tradition, such a quantity of purchases can even be produced by introducing production technology...
It is a pity that China has always been the object of contempt in these markets.
One hundred regional airliners, this is the number of regional aircraft that Yunfei plans to purchase in the next ten years. The passenger transport of many aircrafts is not the main one, and the cargo is the fat that he is looking at.Facing their e-commerce development, the domestic air express business will show explosive growth in China in the next few years.
For [-] engines, the total contract price is only between [-] million and [-] million US dollars. Although this amount exceeds one-fifth of Pratt & Whitney's annual sales, the contract period is very long...
"For your company's needs, our Pratt & Whitney jt8d-200 engine is fully suitable, with a thrust of 18500-21700 pounds. Most of the md-80 aircraft produced by McDonnell Douglas use this engine. There is absolutely no problem with frequent take-offs between short-distance cities. Moreover, this is the most environmentally friendly and highly reliable regional airliner engine in the entire world." As soon as Catherine heard Ma Fengshan report their request, she quickly reported jt8d-200 This engine is about to be eliminated by the aviation market.
"Moreover, the price of this engine is less than 250 million US dollars each. For Chinese users, it is definitely an excellent engine with high cost performance."
"Ms. Catherine, I don't think you understand our appeal. What we need is an advanced engine to help our aircraft fly in the sky, not an engine that is about to be eliminated by the aviation market. In addition, as far as we know You know, the price that McDonnell Douglas purchases from Pratt & Whitney for each jt8d-200 engine is not less than 250 million US dollars as you said, but 140 million US dollars per unit. If you need to spend such a high price to purchase a For an engine that is about to become obsolete, we might as well use the Bass engine that we introduced technology from the British Rolls-Royce company in the 70s..." Hearing Catherine's words, Ma Fengshan suddenly laughed.
These guys really took them for being taken advantage of.
"Mr. Ma, the price we sold to McDonnell Douglas is so low, I think you should know better than us that the aircraft produced by American and European aircraft companies do not require us to attack the government. At the same time, they do not need our help to obtain The US airworthiness certificate, the extra million dollars is basically the cost of research..." Ma Fengshan knew their reserve price, and Catherine was not embarrassed at all.
It is very difficult for the Chinese to purchase aircraft engines from the United States.
The former Soviet Union has disintegrated, and the old Russians have always been living on the legacy left by the former Soviet Union, and have not made much achievements in aircraft engine technology.Moreover, not much research funds are invested in the development of military engines.
In order to avoid another red empire challenging the authority of the United States, and for the whole world to stop tense confrontation due to different ideologies, it is inevitable for the United States to suppress China, the largest socialist country on earth—the purpose of socialism is to eliminate Bourgeoisie, what about the abolition of the system of exploitation?Don't you know that most of the developed countries in the world are capitalist countries?
China is clearly trying to eliminate countries that serve capitalists like them.
Therefore, it is necessary to suppress China.
Moreover, the United States needs a strong target to be suppressed to keep their European brothers tightly united by their side.The polar bears have been dragged down by their space war plan. Over the years, those countries in Europe have begun to stay away from the United States and suppress China. This is a must.
The yellow peril threat theory is basically concocted by the Americans.
"Ms. Catherine, maybe you don't know that the order for this kind of regional airliner in our hand was placed by our boss's Jiuyi Airlines. The whole world knows that our boss only likes to earn money from our own people, and only exports it to others. I have no interest. So, all we need is to obtain the airworthiness certificate issued by the Civil Aviation Administration of China..." Jiang Jianxing only understands some simple English, so he said this in Chinese.
Just kidding, if you want to export regional airliners, it is not very possible for the European and American markets.
Boeing's competition with Airbus is extremely fierce.
A company like them without the slightest background participates in the competition between them. Isn't this looking for a disabled person? (To be continued..)
Many of Ma Fengshan's aircraft testing solutions and design inspirations were obtained from arguing with this old American man who was about his age.
People are divided into national boundaries and races, but academics have no national boundaries.
At least, that's the case with Mason Hand.
Perhaps, he was fired by McDonnell Douglas for revealing too much core technology to the Chinese.Otherwise, based on the old man Hand's experience in the aircraft design industry and his achievements, even if McDonnell Douglas went bankrupt and was acquired by Boeing, this aircraft designer who loves aircraft design to such a distorted degree should be an aircraft designer at Boeing instead of entering Just Pratt & Whitney working on aircraft propulsion systems...
What Catherine said next confirmed Ma Fengshan's conjecture.
"Mr. Hand left McDonnell Douglas for some reasons after the high bypass ratio exchange meeting, and joined Pratt & Whitney as a project supervisor engineer..." Catherine didn't know much about these things.
Because when Hande joined Pratt & Whitney, she was just an ordinary middle-level manager of Pratt & Whitney.
Along the way, Ma Fengshan and Catherine were very involved in chatting. As Catherine who specially received Yunfei and his party, she did not neglect Yunfei and others, and set up some topics from time to time to bring Yunfei and others into the discussion topic. , so that Yunfei and others did not feel left out.
This woman can become the vice president of business of such a huge high-tech company as Pratt & Whitney at the age of more than 40, which definitely does not depend on her body.At least, along the way, she and Ma Fengshan exchanged a lot of professional and technical things.
And these things are not those dead parameters.
The 10-minute drive passed quickly under the communication between Catherine and Ma Fengshan.
Yun Fei really wanted to ask about the relationship between Ma Fengshan and the Hand whom Catherine was talking about, but Ma Fengshan simply ignored him.It made him feel like a cat scratching his heart, and there was nothing he could do except to be anxious.
Founded in the early [-]th century, Pratt & Whitney should be the earliest professional aircraft engine design and production company in the whole world.The gate of their company is not as majestic as some companies in China, and the huge factory area is also very simple and old. From the outside, this company does not look like a company with an annual turnover of billions of dollars at all. high tech company.
When the motorcade just arrived at Pratt & Whitney's administrative building, Pratt & Whitney's president, Blacker, was leading several employees waiting for Yunfei and his party at the door.
Before Catherine introduced him, a short old man with gray hair among the waiting people let out an exaggerated cry.Then he rushed towards Ma Fengshan.Ma Fengshan, who has always been more serious, also laughed exaggeratedly, stepped forward and hugged this old white man who was about the same size as him tightly.
When Yun Fei saw this scene, he felt that there was only one word in his heart that could describe it—passionate!
It seems that this old man is Mason Hand, the aircraft designer who has a close relationship with Ma Fengshan, as Catherine said.
After some introductions, Blacker brought Yun Fei and his party into the conference room that had been arranged earlier.
This allowed everyone to see the efficiency of the Americans. After asking Yunfei and his party if they needed to go to the hotel to rest and get a negative answer, they were ready to go straight to the point.After all, what they are facing is not the heads of state-owned units and government departments with a strong institutional style in China. The guys who come out to talk about things are the second, and the main purpose is travel and shopping.
private enterprise.The emphasis is on efficiency.
Profit is what they are after.
And for them, time is money.
"Everyone, we currently need low-noise, low-fuel consumption, high-efficiency environmentally friendly engines with a thrust between 17500 pounds and 22500 pounds. At present, we are mainly developing new regional airliners with 90 to 110 seats. A new type of regional airliner with an order of one hundred. For you, this is really not a big order..." Ma Fengshan directly stated their intention of coming.
In terms of large aircraft, the engine is the core component.And it's the most important part.
This is basically the most expensive part as well.
Although arj-21 is a small regional airliner, the final market price is estimated to be around 3000 million US dollars, but the price of the two engines needs to be between 400 million and 600 million US dollars.
The budget of Ma Fengshan and others for an engine is basically between 200 million and 300 million US dollars.If it is impossible to negotiate, Yunfei is also acceptable if the price exceeds US$300 million.After all, the market price for one of those big mainline engines is over $1000 million.
东方航空公司曾经在空客购买了二十架空客a330-300客机,使用的英国罗尔斯.罗伊斯公司的瑞达700发动机,推力在67500磅——71100磅,总价格一共是四亿5000万美元。这仅仅只是发动机的价格。
As the core component of an aircraft, the price of the engine accounts for almost one-seventh to one-fifth of the total cost of the aircraft.If you can't produce an engine yourself, it is inevitable that you will be slaughtered.
According to tradition, such a quantity of purchases can even be produced by introducing production technology...
It is a pity that China has always been the object of contempt in these markets.
One hundred regional airliners, this is the number of regional aircraft that Yunfei plans to purchase in the next ten years. The passenger transport of many aircrafts is not the main one, and the cargo is the fat that he is looking at.Facing their e-commerce development, the domestic air express business will show explosive growth in China in the next few years.
For [-] engines, the total contract price is only between [-] million and [-] million US dollars. Although this amount exceeds one-fifth of Pratt & Whitney's annual sales, the contract period is very long...
"For your company's needs, our Pratt & Whitney jt8d-200 engine is fully suitable, with a thrust of 18500-21700 pounds. Most of the md-80 aircraft produced by McDonnell Douglas use this engine. There is absolutely no problem with frequent take-offs between short-distance cities. Moreover, this is the most environmentally friendly and highly reliable regional airliner engine in the entire world." As soon as Catherine heard Ma Fengshan report their request, she quickly reported jt8d-200 This engine is about to be eliminated by the aviation market.
"Moreover, the price of this engine is less than 250 million US dollars each. For Chinese users, it is definitely an excellent engine with high cost performance."
"Ms. Catherine, I don't think you understand our appeal. What we need is an advanced engine to help our aircraft fly in the sky, not an engine that is about to be eliminated by the aviation market. In addition, as far as we know You know, the price that McDonnell Douglas purchases from Pratt & Whitney for each jt8d-200 engine is not less than 250 million US dollars as you said, but 140 million US dollars per unit. If you need to spend such a high price to purchase a For an engine that is about to become obsolete, we might as well use the Bass engine that we introduced technology from the British Rolls-Royce company in the 70s..." Hearing Catherine's words, Ma Fengshan suddenly laughed.
These guys really took them for being taken advantage of.
"Mr. Ma, the price we sold to McDonnell Douglas is so low, I think you should know better than us that the aircraft produced by American and European aircraft companies do not require us to attack the government. At the same time, they do not need our help to obtain The US airworthiness certificate, the extra million dollars is basically the cost of research..." Ma Fengshan knew their reserve price, and Catherine was not embarrassed at all.
It is very difficult for the Chinese to purchase aircraft engines from the United States.
The former Soviet Union has disintegrated, and the old Russians have always been living on the legacy left by the former Soviet Union, and have not made much achievements in aircraft engine technology.Moreover, not much research funds are invested in the development of military engines.
In order to avoid another red empire challenging the authority of the United States, and for the whole world to stop tense confrontation due to different ideologies, it is inevitable for the United States to suppress China, the largest socialist country on earth—the purpose of socialism is to eliminate Bourgeoisie, what about the abolition of the system of exploitation?Don't you know that most of the developed countries in the world are capitalist countries?
China is clearly trying to eliminate countries that serve capitalists like them.
Therefore, it is necessary to suppress China.
Moreover, the United States needs a strong target to be suppressed to keep their European brothers tightly united by their side.The polar bears have been dragged down by their space war plan. Over the years, those countries in Europe have begun to stay away from the United States and suppress China. This is a must.
The yellow peril threat theory is basically concocted by the Americans.
"Ms. Catherine, maybe you don't know that the order for this kind of regional airliner in our hand was placed by our boss's Jiuyi Airlines. The whole world knows that our boss only likes to earn money from our own people, and only exports it to others. I have no interest. So, all we need is to obtain the airworthiness certificate issued by the Civil Aviation Administration of China..." Jiang Jianxing only understands some simple English, so he said this in Chinese.
Just kidding, if you want to export regional airliners, it is not very possible for the European and American markets.
Boeing's competition with Airbus is extremely fierce.
A company like them without the slightest background participates in the competition between them. Isn't this looking for a disabled person? (To be continued..)
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