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Chapter 147 Taking advantage of gold and jade to return the wrong path
Chapter 147 The Hundred Vehicles
At noon on the second day, the Wei envoy and the Chu envoy appeared together in the house, kneeling and sitting on the reed mat casually.
There are not too many etiquette rules, because this is Peixian County, so it is necessary to follow the rules of the Mohists "Pitching around, dignified rituals, holy kings do nothing".
The Mohists don’t pay attention to etiquette, and think that it is a waste of time to look up and circle around, and the ceremony of majesty is a waste of time. This is not what the sage king should advocate.
Shi and others sat beside Mozi, and Qin Huali came forward to introduce these Mozi one by one.
Shi was the youngest among the attendees, and the first of the last among the Mohists, so it was also the last to be introduced.
Ren Ke may not have heard of many Mohist names, but he was extremely impressed by Shi.Except for those stories about Jiahe wheat flour, many of the majestic texts on the grass and silk handed down to Weidi were written by this person.
After looking it over carefully, he found that Shi Ye hadn't reached the age of the crown, and his face was green.
Mozhe also dressed similarly, without a crown and wearing short brown. It is impossible to judge this person's origin and status from his clothing, but there have long been rumors in the market that this person is the son of a shoemaker.
There are quite a few nobles among the Mohists, but after abandoning the noble costumes, the Mohists can't be distinguished from those craftsmen and farmers on the outside.
Ren Ke didn't look at the envoy of Chu, and when Qin Huali introduced it to him, he turned his head and said with a smile: "It seems that this one is 'the blue is better than the blue'. Marquis Wei admired this sentence very much, if Speaking of it, the old princes of the Jin Dynasty, and now the Marquis of the Zhou Dynasty, destroyed Zhongshan and leveled the chaos, which means that Wei came from Jin and surpassed Jin."
I can understand elegant language, but I can't speak it well, and I feel a little dissatisfied with Ren Ke's praise. Although this is interesting, it is not appropriate.
However, perhaps Mozi knew that Shi's elegant language was not easy to speak, and he also sensed some provocative meaning in this sentence, so he didn't care, and said with a smile: "Mozi does not take credit for others, this is made after the Zhongxing family. In the past, Zhongxing Wenzi asked for bribes from Zheng, surrounded Zhao Handan without knowing his interests, and eventually perished. Later generations can write such majestic essays. Although they are no longer Qing and Dafu, but they can persuade people to learn from others, they are indeed better than blue. That’s it. Anything that can benefit the world can be won.”
These words are to remind Ren Ke that it is not necessary to be an official for such a thing.The administration of BOC Wenzi is unknown, so it is of course commendable that later generations can make such magnificent writings, which can benefit the world.
All kinds of work, farming, and even civil and military affairs, as long as they can benefit the world, they can be better than blue, and they can all be appreciated.
But now that Wei Si is a Marquis, it is a war of injustice, and I am afraid that he will follow the old path of the Zhongxing family back then.
Ren Ke was speechless for a moment, Xin Dao had long heard that Mohists were eloquent, and Mo Di was even a Mohist tycoon, and there were many sharp stabs in a single sentence.
So I thought it's better not to use those small tricks today, otherwise I'm afraid I'll lose my face.
He restrained his thoughts, bowed to Mo Di, and praised: "Sir, you benefit the world by weathering the wind and rain. I also know it in Wei. Later, the great writings on grass and silk were introduced to Wei. I also heard about Mohism and Lie in Taoyi on the way." Regarding the dispute over the origin of all things, Yu Kou just said, "The four directions of the heaven and the earth are called the universe, and the communication between the past and the present is called the universe."
Regarding the summary of the universe as a continuum of space and practice, it is suitable to copy the discussion of Shi Jiao who was born soon. It can be said that the summary is extremely comprehensive, and a simple sentence can give birth to infinity and insignificance of human beings.
After Ren Ke praised, he said again: "I have heard that the Mohist seeks the will of heaven. However, the universe is infinite in all directions and the past and present, and the will of heaven must be infinite. Mr. once said that what is in line with the will of heaven is right, so how can the Mohists be able to do it?" Have you grasped the end of the universe?"
Mozi was calm, shaking his head and said, "It's not possible."
Ren Ke said again: "I know and admire the means of the Mohists and the Mohists. But I don't think the Mohism's principles will work. If you want to benefit the world, you must rely on means rather than reasoning. "
"If you don't use the righteousness of the Mohist school, you can still benefit the world. For example, the new grains, carts, plowshares, etc. of the Mohist school can't increase the output of the land and make the people rich because you don't use the righteousness of the Mohist school?"
"Now the Marquis of Wei seeks talents, just like people who travel far away are thirsty for water. Isn't it just right for the Mohists to benefit the world? Don't talk about the righteousness of the Mohists, they can also benefit the world. Is the Mohism trying to spread the righteousness of the Mohists? Or Want to benefit the world?"
He cleverly separated the two matters of Mohism's righteousness and benefiting the world, as if there was no direct and inevitable connection between these two matters.
And the various technological innovations mentioned before seem to prove his point of view: there is no need to change the system or change customs, just spread the technology.It is best for Mohists to be technical officials one by one, so as to benefit the world.
This is a question aimed at all Mohists. Shi Shi glanced at Mozi, indicating that he was about to come out, and Mozi nodded slightly.
It's not that he doesn't want to answer in person because of his identity, but because Mozi thinks that this kind of matter should be handled by a special person.
Although Shi can't speak elegant language fluently, there are many people who can speak elegant language in the Xuanyi Department and the secretaries, who are born in a down-and-out aristocrat, and they will naturally speak the words to Ren Ke.
He bowed to Ren Ke, Ren Ke returned the salute, and said: "It seems that you want to tell me the truth about Su Mo Zhe. I don't think I can compare with Mr. Mo Di, so please tell me."
Shi said: "What you said is unreasonable. If you want to benefit the world, even if there are cattle and iron tools and new grains, if farmers are all conscripted to participate in unjust wars, even if these new things appear, can the land grow by itself? crops?"
"If you want to make a sword, you need both copper and a mold. So do you think that you can make a sword just by having copper?"
The book secretary and Mozhe who sat next to Shi fluently transcribed the words in elegant language, while Xiao Sheng only took notes at the side, copying quickly.
Ren Ke shook his head and said: "That's not the case. Now there is a mold, and the Mohist just wants to change a mold. I don't think this is necessary, and it can't benefit the world."
Shi asked, "You have passed through Pei County. Isn't Pei County considered governed?"
Ren Ke said with a smile: "Pei County has been governed, which I admire. But the governance of Pei County is related to the skills of the Mohists, not to the righteousness of the Mohists. Could it be said that a soldier wearing leather A, killing someone with a sharp knife, can it be said that the credit for the killing belongs to the leather armor?"
Shi Xiao asked: "If you want to prove that Mohists' righteousness can benefit the world, you only need to keep the original technology unchanged. Is this the case?"
Ren Ke nodded in agreement, and said: "If the Mohists did not use the techniques of new valleys, ox plowing, ridge farming, and composting in Peixian County, but keeping the same is just the meaning of the Mohists, and Peixian County has been governed, then I will admit that Mohists' righteousness can benefit the world."
Shi laughed, and said after a long while: "Then today's custom in the world is to burial for a long time. Mohists save money and burial, even if the skills do not increase, they can still benefit the world. Please let me tell you, it is possible. Is it?"
Ren Ke made a posture of asking for advice, and the two sat on the ground facing each other, while Mo Zhe, who was in charge of translating, sat aside.
The scene was silent, and the mohists were all watching the debate between Shi and the envoy Wei, which was extremely important to the morality of the mohists.
Although he is suitable as the radical of the Xuanyi Department, he should have come forward to do this kind of thing. Since Mozi nominated him to be the radical of the Xuanyi Department, he also thinks that he has a sharp mind and can take on such responsibilities.
Even though there are many truths, the Mohist knows it all in his heart.
However, it is not easy to express the truth clearly in the heart in words.
Many Mohists can be clear in their hearts, so their behavior conforms to the rules of Mohism, but if they are asked to express what they think in their hearts in words, they often feel that the words are on the lips, but they don't mean that at all after they are said.
Moreover, during a debate, it is impossible for the opponent to just listen to what you have to say, but to find a way to catch the loopholes or mistakes in your words and investigate them. If you cannot respond in time, you will definitely be frustrated.
Ren Ke's reputation is not obvious, but since the Wei people sent him here, they must have some means, otherwise it would be impossible to send him to deal with Mohist, who is famous for his eloquence.
Perhaps not as good as Yang Zhu, Meng Sunyang, Lie Yukou, etc., but the reputation of the Mohists before was too bad, which made many people who came to fight for fame on their own feel embarrassed. In recent years, there have been very few people who have come to Mohist to debate.
This person is in Weidi, so it is impossible that he has not heard of these things, and if he dares to come here now, he obviously has a well-thought-out plan and should not be underestimated.
It is also very good for Shi to come forward in time, after all, everyone in the world knows that Shi is the son of a shoemaker, and he is the youngest among Mo Di's direct disciples, and he has not joined the Mo family for a long time.
In this way, even if you lose, you can always recover, and it is just a test.
Ren Ke naturally also knows that Mohists are eloquent, righteous and eloquent, these are two labels of Mohism that cannot be ignored.
He was a guest under Di Huang's staff, this time he took the initiative to invite Ying, and Di Huang agreed, which also showed that he had the ability in this area.
He knew it, so he didn't dare to directly argue with Mo Di, who is famous all over the world and retreated from the Chu Kingdom's ten thousand troops with one mouth. Sandwiched in the answer, he refuted it back, of course he didn't want to.
However, she is the youngest and doesn't speak elegant Chinese well. Perhaps this is a point where she can break through.
As long as he wins, even if he loses to the rest of the Mohists, he can still win the reputation he wants.
Furthermore, it seems that Shi is an important figure among the Mohists. If Shi can win the debate, even if Mo Di himself comes forward, I am afraid that many Mohists will be shaken when the news spreads in the future.
As long as the mind is shaken, many things will be easy to handle.
Before coming, Zhai Huang, Li Kui and others told Ren Ke not to win over those Mohists who are capable of governing, but to use this time to let those Mohists who have the ability to execute government orders know that Marquis Wei seeks talents, and let those Mohists Those who are not firm should be shaken appropriately.
Mohists can continue to do justice in Pei County, continue to use township schools to spread technology, and train batch after batch of disciples, but these disciples may not all be as firm as iron.As long as three out of ten people are like this, it is equivalent to providing Wei with a steady stream of talents. It seems that Wei is the only one who seeks talents and allows scholars to have enough room for advancement, and at the same time has the potential to dominate the world. .
(End of this chapter)
At noon on the second day, the Wei envoy and the Chu envoy appeared together in the house, kneeling and sitting on the reed mat casually.
There are not too many etiquette rules, because this is Peixian County, so it is necessary to follow the rules of the Mohists "Pitching around, dignified rituals, holy kings do nothing".
The Mohists don’t pay attention to etiquette, and think that it is a waste of time to look up and circle around, and the ceremony of majesty is a waste of time. This is not what the sage king should advocate.
Shi and others sat beside Mozi, and Qin Huali came forward to introduce these Mozi one by one.
Shi was the youngest among the attendees, and the first of the last among the Mohists, so it was also the last to be introduced.
Ren Ke may not have heard of many Mohist names, but he was extremely impressed by Shi.Except for those stories about Jiahe wheat flour, many of the majestic texts on the grass and silk handed down to Weidi were written by this person.
After looking it over carefully, he found that Shi Ye hadn't reached the age of the crown, and his face was green.
Mozhe also dressed similarly, without a crown and wearing short brown. It is impossible to judge this person's origin and status from his clothing, but there have long been rumors in the market that this person is the son of a shoemaker.
There are quite a few nobles among the Mohists, but after abandoning the noble costumes, the Mohists can't be distinguished from those craftsmen and farmers on the outside.
Ren Ke didn't look at the envoy of Chu, and when Qin Huali introduced it to him, he turned his head and said with a smile: "It seems that this one is 'the blue is better than the blue'. Marquis Wei admired this sentence very much, if Speaking of it, the old princes of the Jin Dynasty, and now the Marquis of the Zhou Dynasty, destroyed Zhongshan and leveled the chaos, which means that Wei came from Jin and surpassed Jin."
I can understand elegant language, but I can't speak it well, and I feel a little dissatisfied with Ren Ke's praise. Although this is interesting, it is not appropriate.
However, perhaps Mozi knew that Shi's elegant language was not easy to speak, and he also sensed some provocative meaning in this sentence, so he didn't care, and said with a smile: "Mozi does not take credit for others, this is made after the Zhongxing family. In the past, Zhongxing Wenzi asked for bribes from Zheng, surrounded Zhao Handan without knowing his interests, and eventually perished. Later generations can write such majestic essays. Although they are no longer Qing and Dafu, but they can persuade people to learn from others, they are indeed better than blue. That’s it. Anything that can benefit the world can be won.”
These words are to remind Ren Ke that it is not necessary to be an official for such a thing.The administration of BOC Wenzi is unknown, so it is of course commendable that later generations can make such magnificent writings, which can benefit the world.
All kinds of work, farming, and even civil and military affairs, as long as they can benefit the world, they can be better than blue, and they can all be appreciated.
But now that Wei Si is a Marquis, it is a war of injustice, and I am afraid that he will follow the old path of the Zhongxing family back then.
Ren Ke was speechless for a moment, Xin Dao had long heard that Mohists were eloquent, and Mo Di was even a Mohist tycoon, and there were many sharp stabs in a single sentence.
So I thought it's better not to use those small tricks today, otherwise I'm afraid I'll lose my face.
He restrained his thoughts, bowed to Mo Di, and praised: "Sir, you benefit the world by weathering the wind and rain. I also know it in Wei. Later, the great writings on grass and silk were introduced to Wei. I also heard about Mohism and Lie in Taoyi on the way." Regarding the dispute over the origin of all things, Yu Kou just said, "The four directions of the heaven and the earth are called the universe, and the communication between the past and the present is called the universe."
Regarding the summary of the universe as a continuum of space and practice, it is suitable to copy the discussion of Shi Jiao who was born soon. It can be said that the summary is extremely comprehensive, and a simple sentence can give birth to infinity and insignificance of human beings.
After Ren Ke praised, he said again: "I have heard that the Mohist seeks the will of heaven. However, the universe is infinite in all directions and the past and present, and the will of heaven must be infinite. Mr. once said that what is in line with the will of heaven is right, so how can the Mohists be able to do it?" Have you grasped the end of the universe?"
Mozi was calm, shaking his head and said, "It's not possible."
Ren Ke said again: "I know and admire the means of the Mohists and the Mohists. But I don't think the Mohism's principles will work. If you want to benefit the world, you must rely on means rather than reasoning. "
"If you don't use the righteousness of the Mohist school, you can still benefit the world. For example, the new grains, carts, plowshares, etc. of the Mohist school can't increase the output of the land and make the people rich because you don't use the righteousness of the Mohist school?"
"Now the Marquis of Wei seeks talents, just like people who travel far away are thirsty for water. Isn't it just right for the Mohists to benefit the world? Don't talk about the righteousness of the Mohists, they can also benefit the world. Is the Mohism trying to spread the righteousness of the Mohists? Or Want to benefit the world?"
He cleverly separated the two matters of Mohism's righteousness and benefiting the world, as if there was no direct and inevitable connection between these two matters.
And the various technological innovations mentioned before seem to prove his point of view: there is no need to change the system or change customs, just spread the technology.It is best for Mohists to be technical officials one by one, so as to benefit the world.
This is a question aimed at all Mohists. Shi Shi glanced at Mozi, indicating that he was about to come out, and Mozi nodded slightly.
It's not that he doesn't want to answer in person because of his identity, but because Mozi thinks that this kind of matter should be handled by a special person.
Although Shi can't speak elegant language fluently, there are many people who can speak elegant language in the Xuanyi Department and the secretaries, who are born in a down-and-out aristocrat, and they will naturally speak the words to Ren Ke.
He bowed to Ren Ke, Ren Ke returned the salute, and said: "It seems that you want to tell me the truth about Su Mo Zhe. I don't think I can compare with Mr. Mo Di, so please tell me."
Shi said: "What you said is unreasonable. If you want to benefit the world, even if there are cattle and iron tools and new grains, if farmers are all conscripted to participate in unjust wars, even if these new things appear, can the land grow by itself? crops?"
"If you want to make a sword, you need both copper and a mold. So do you think that you can make a sword just by having copper?"
The book secretary and Mozhe who sat next to Shi fluently transcribed the words in elegant language, while Xiao Sheng only took notes at the side, copying quickly.
Ren Ke shook his head and said: "That's not the case. Now there is a mold, and the Mohist just wants to change a mold. I don't think this is necessary, and it can't benefit the world."
Shi asked, "You have passed through Pei County. Isn't Pei County considered governed?"
Ren Ke said with a smile: "Pei County has been governed, which I admire. But the governance of Pei County is related to the skills of the Mohists, not to the righteousness of the Mohists. Could it be said that a soldier wearing leather A, killing someone with a sharp knife, can it be said that the credit for the killing belongs to the leather armor?"
Shi Xiao asked: "If you want to prove that Mohists' righteousness can benefit the world, you only need to keep the original technology unchanged. Is this the case?"
Ren Ke nodded in agreement, and said: "If the Mohists did not use the techniques of new valleys, ox plowing, ridge farming, and composting in Peixian County, but keeping the same is just the meaning of the Mohists, and Peixian County has been governed, then I will admit that Mohists' righteousness can benefit the world."
Shi laughed, and said after a long while: "Then today's custom in the world is to burial for a long time. Mohists save money and burial, even if the skills do not increase, they can still benefit the world. Please let me tell you, it is possible. Is it?"
Ren Ke made a posture of asking for advice, and the two sat on the ground facing each other, while Mo Zhe, who was in charge of translating, sat aside.
The scene was silent, and the mohists were all watching the debate between Shi and the envoy Wei, which was extremely important to the morality of the mohists.
Although he is suitable as the radical of the Xuanyi Department, he should have come forward to do this kind of thing. Since Mozi nominated him to be the radical of the Xuanyi Department, he also thinks that he has a sharp mind and can take on such responsibilities.
Even though there are many truths, the Mohist knows it all in his heart.
However, it is not easy to express the truth clearly in the heart in words.
Many Mohists can be clear in their hearts, so their behavior conforms to the rules of Mohism, but if they are asked to express what they think in their hearts in words, they often feel that the words are on the lips, but they don't mean that at all after they are said.
Moreover, during a debate, it is impossible for the opponent to just listen to what you have to say, but to find a way to catch the loopholes or mistakes in your words and investigate them. If you cannot respond in time, you will definitely be frustrated.
Ren Ke's reputation is not obvious, but since the Wei people sent him here, they must have some means, otherwise it would be impossible to send him to deal with Mohist, who is famous for his eloquence.
Perhaps not as good as Yang Zhu, Meng Sunyang, Lie Yukou, etc., but the reputation of the Mohists before was too bad, which made many people who came to fight for fame on their own feel embarrassed. In recent years, there have been very few people who have come to Mohist to debate.
This person is in Weidi, so it is impossible that he has not heard of these things, and if he dares to come here now, he obviously has a well-thought-out plan and should not be underestimated.
It is also very good for Shi to come forward in time, after all, everyone in the world knows that Shi is the son of a shoemaker, and he is the youngest among Mo Di's direct disciples, and he has not joined the Mo family for a long time.
In this way, even if you lose, you can always recover, and it is just a test.
Ren Ke naturally also knows that Mohists are eloquent, righteous and eloquent, these are two labels of Mohism that cannot be ignored.
He was a guest under Di Huang's staff, this time he took the initiative to invite Ying, and Di Huang agreed, which also showed that he had the ability in this area.
He knew it, so he didn't dare to directly argue with Mo Di, who is famous all over the world and retreated from the Chu Kingdom's ten thousand troops with one mouth. Sandwiched in the answer, he refuted it back, of course he didn't want to.
However, she is the youngest and doesn't speak elegant Chinese well. Perhaps this is a point where she can break through.
As long as he wins, even if he loses to the rest of the Mohists, he can still win the reputation he wants.
Furthermore, it seems that Shi is an important figure among the Mohists. If Shi can win the debate, even if Mo Di himself comes forward, I am afraid that many Mohists will be shaken when the news spreads in the future.
As long as the mind is shaken, many things will be easy to handle.
Before coming, Zhai Huang, Li Kui and others told Ren Ke not to win over those Mohists who are capable of governing, but to use this time to let those Mohists who have the ability to execute government orders know that Marquis Wei seeks talents, and let those Mohists Those who are not firm should be shaken appropriately.
Mohists can continue to do justice in Pei County, continue to use township schools to spread technology, and train batch after batch of disciples, but these disciples may not all be as firm as iron.As long as three out of ten people are like this, it is equivalent to providing Wei with a steady stream of talents. It seems that Wei is the only one who seeks talents and allows scholars to have enough room for advancement, and at the same time has the potential to dominate the world. .
(End of this chapter)
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