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Chapter 711 Differentiation, fusion, alliance and confrontation
Chapter 711 Differentiation, Fusion, Alliance and Confrontation ([-])
After asking a word, Shi's voice was loud, not only asking Xu Xi, but also Xu Xi's disciples.
Mohism does not lack a Xu Xie, what is lacking is more comrades who are beneficial to the heart of the world, and devote themselves to the coming world of great chaos and chaos.
What the Mohist valued was not Xu Xi, but hundreds of peasant disciples, who benefited the world and even caused some big disturbances in Song Dynasty.
The peasant disciples on the right side of the lower head were already nodding their heads after hearing Shi's words. Many of them showed a sense of sudden enlightenment, and some of them pressed their swords and were eager to join in immediately.
After they came to Sishang, they saw everything in Sishang, including the farmers whose living standard in Sishang was much higher than other places.
With the excess profits, the farmers in the Sishang Cooperative Village live much higher than those in other places.
This is a vertical comparison, but in the eyes of these people this is a horizontal comparison.
The winner may not be right, but it is politically correct to some extent.
The utilitarianism of Mohism and the logic of some behaviors are not evaluated with morality as the first starting point.
As Mozi said, there are three forms to be corrected.
Mozi said, if you want to be in line with the will of heaven, then how can you be considered to be in line with the will of heaven?The answer is that the sum of social wealth increases, the majority of people benefit, and the population increases.
It has nothing to do with the theory of morality and heart.
And how strong is the utilitarianism of Mohism?
Kill one person to benefit the world, kill or not?The answer is, kill.
Is Wang Zilu willing to commit suicide after being forced into power?The answer is, bullshit benevolence and righteousness, if you do it, you can do it, and after you do it, you can get rid of the coup d'état and benefit the people. You must use the results to evaluate benevolence and righteousness!You wiped your neck and died, leaving your reputation behind. What will the people of Chu do?
It's like the people in Sishang who said, "Although I'm not a Mohist, I can't die for the benefit of the world, but I pay taxes normally, I serve in the military, and I get rich under the premise that the law does not prohibit or permit, so I am legal." Yu Tianzhi is the best respect for Haotian God by people other than Mohists who are always dying for the benefit of the world." This strange ethical logic is the same, and it pays more attention to the result than the process.
Pure moral justice, where there is only right and wrong, because virtue is the highest standard, there are only good and bad, there is no difference between very good, quite good, good, not good, bad, and very bad.
The Mohist's emphasis on the word "quan" made it impossible for the Mohist to regard virtue as the highest standard.
Power, take the big and abandon the small, take the big profit and small harm and give up the big harm and small profit, then it can't be black and white.
Of course, this may not be correct, but it is a short-term plan that takes advantage of the great changes unseen in a thousand years to take Zhu Xia and Kyushu forward instead of waiting for the "self-transformation of all things" to slowly accumulate and may be interrupted. Best way to sprout.
Is there any reason for the morality of the peasant family?
In fact, for the Mohists, it makes a lot of sense.
Because the Mohists say: Righteousness is profit.
Different classes have different interests, so they have different righteousness.If small farmers directly support the cruel industrial and commercial development, it is definitely a brain-hip split, and they will be looked down upon by the Mohists.
The problem of importing food is causing a lot of trouble in Sishang. In the long run, this is exactly what I want most: People wake up from ignorance. Even if the Mohist family fails one day, the awakened people will no longer be willing. Go to sleep.
The debate between Shi and Xu Xi has been changing concepts from the very beginning.
Xu Xi wants to argue and win.
It's not to win Xu Xi's argument, but to convince those peasant disciples.
The starting point of the two people is completely different.
Did Shi Debate win Xu Xi?
Shi felt that it was not. In the end, he still did not solve the problem of "whether the scissors difference between industrial and commercial workers is unfair to farmers", but secretly changed the concept and became "which one should be solved first, the big unfairness or the small unfairness?" question.
To clarify this issue, it cannot be clarified in three to five days, nor can it be clarified now.
Appropriately turn the judgment question into a multiple choice question.
Using Mohism's utilitarianism distorts the moral justice of the problem.
Utilitarianism is optional.
Moral justice has only right and wrong, right and wrong, without trade-offs.
Xu Xi could feel that the debate was not over at all, but there was no way to continue the debate directly.
It is appropriate to throw this question now, and ask him if he would like to benefit the world together?
He had to answer.must answer.
If he didn't answer, his disciples would be disappointed, and they might go to the Mohist organization department to write an application at night.
His answer is tantamount to acknowledging that this is a choice rather than right and wrong.
Unless he is now slapping the table and saying that I think it must be perfect and fair, and Xu Xi understands that, in order to adapt to his previous performance, he must ask him how to do it?
Then he couldn't find a way.
The disciples followed him not because they wanted to benefit, but because they wanted to benefit the world. It just happened that the disciples believed that Xu Xi's morality could benefit the world.
Now the Mohist has also given a better way to benefit the world, with a plan, a routine, a long-term, and a present, and it has given enough steps to the farm: let’s get rid of the nobles together first, and then let’s talk about the righteousness of the Kyushu Zhuxia, In other words, profit tends to favor which class in the society.
The Mohists are preparing to tear themselves apart from the old world, so it can be said so bluntly: we just want to make trouble, we prepare muskets and cannons, just to benefit the world, and the biggest obstacle to benefit the world now is those silverfish, we want to make trouble Drop them, do you come together?
The inference made by the top Mohists before that there will be a balance of terror within five years; Catch me!
Wei Guo didn't dare to catch it, because he was afraid that the chrysanthemum would be exploded by Qin Guo.
Zhao Guo didn't dare to catch him himself. If he wanted to catch him, he had to pull Wei Guo.
The state of Chu has just finished a battle, internal problems have not yet been resolved, and the reform of centralization is at its most intense. Now that the king of Chu is carrying out with Sishang, it will be a kick on the steel plate, and all the achievements of the reform will be wiped out.If he didn't take advantage of Chen Cai's huge prestige to change quickly, the king of Chu's mind must be rusted.
Qi Guo couldn't recover within five years of being bullied, and he was even more powerless.
This is also the external reason why the entire public opinion has turned on a large scale after the entire government came to power, and it is not a means to benefit the world at this stage to declare that non-offensive is not the way to benefit the world at this stage, to expand the military officer corps on a large scale, and to force businessmen to reduce taxes from Chuyue ballast rice.
Even before this great debate among scholars, the Mohists directly explained the external reasons for inviting farmers to conspire with each other.
At this moment, Xu Xi has no other choice, no matter from the attitude of his disciples or the future of "negotiable in the future" given by the Mohists, he can only choose to benefit the world together.
Merchants seek profits, and they will trample on all the laws of the world for the sake of profits. This is the plight of small farmers in some areas of Chu State, and it is also the source of the same price that small farmers most hope for.
The reality that Fengjun’s land rent exploitation, heavy corvee, and commodity dumping must intensify exploitation to maintain the quality of life is the source of the small peasant class’s favorite "sages and people farming together".
Sishang's "imperialist" tactics of dumping, monopoly, excess profits, selling arms, and inciting wars have exacerbated this contradiction.Moreover, there is a faction of Mohists who plausibly believe that I dump, I force Qi Chu to be exempt from tariffs, I incite wars, I sell arms, and I obtain excess profits, but I am for the benefit of the world in the future.
Xu Xi didn't think of the latter point, but was only opposing the first two points. Sishang's exclusive pricing of salt and iron was also one of the reasons why Xu Xi was able to accept the Mohist theory.
Under the eager anticipation of his disciples, Xu Xi had no choice but to say: "Our farm family is also beneficial to the hearts of the world. As you said, we can seek common ground while reserving differences. We can talk about our affairs in the future. But how should we talk about it in the future?"
Shi said: "Do you know the balance of specimens taught by Zimozi?"
The specimen in the Mohist context is a lever, and Xu Xi still understands this.
He nodded, and said conveniently: "The specimen is the lever. You can know the weight, the calculated length, and the original weight. As long as a balance is reached through the calculation of Tianzhi, and the price is controlled within a certain range, you can So that common people, peasants, businessmen and commerce benefit, and they can all accept it.”
"This is the Ten Thousand Peoples Law Conference in Sishang. Righteousness is profit. Different classes have different interests, so they have different righteousness. Everyone takes a step back and talks if they can negotiate, and fight if they can't agree."
"The farmer can still talk to us, but there is no way to talk to the princes and nobles. We can't talk, and you can't talk. No matter how bad it is, there is still a "Price Limit Act" on Sishang. At that time, prices in Sishang were also stable.”
Anne, we must fight against the outside world first.There is no doubt that the current propaganda of the Sishang Mohism in the market has created a common enemy for farmers, industry, and merchants—nobility, which is the distinction between inside and outside.
Xu Xi did not question why the Mohist "universal love" is still keen on fighting, because since the time of Mozi, the Mohist has said that punishing unrighteousness is the embodiment of universal love. Be the drummer who "beats the drums."
His attitude towards Sishang is close, but he is somewhat dissatisfied with Sishang who represents the interests of industrial and commercial people.
So he asked with a half-smile and half-seriousness: "When the people rule the law, the number of farmers is always the largest. There are ten or nine people in the world who work in agriculture."
"The Mohists say that righteousness is profit. If the Mohist's righteousness represents the interests of businessmen in the future, the number of businessmen will be small...the Mohist won't engage in the matter of dividing the proportion of people's representatives according to property and tax payment?"
Shi Ye kept laughing and said solemnly: "No, no! This is the most basic morality, which we can't violate. Zimozi said that righteousness must be in line with the will of heaven. People are nothing but old and young, noble and humble. The will of heaven that all are equal remains unchanged, and the thing you said about dividing the representatives of the people according to property and tax payment will not happen."
Only then did Xu Xi take a sip of water from the porcelain cup printed with "Gou benefit the world, life and death" in front of him, moistening his already dry throat, and the disciples under him let out bursts of cheers.
Once the overall situation is settled, there is no need to discuss the remaining issues with Xu Xi, but leave it to others.
After the two got up and saluted each other, they said goodbye first, and there were two people in charge of the Mohist School waiting to talk to Xu Xi.
One is the strategy in the direction of the Song Dynasty. The farmers in some cities of the Song Dynasty are very suitable for the interests of the landless farmers and develop rapidly.
The other is to arrange for a small experimental field of the farm family in Chu State and the farm family to become an official in Sishang to benefit the world together.
Neither of these needs to be discussed with Xu Xi.
After the crowd dispersed, the stenographers compared with each other and made up what they didn't write down.
Shi Shi's personal secretary immediately stepped forward, handed over a form and said, "Young Master, this is the arrangement for these few days."
Shi Shi rubbed his eyes, feeling a little tired. The secretary understood, so he said with a very good memory: "In the evening, you will attend the banquet with the farmer's family. In the evening, you will go to the theater to watch a performance with the farmer's family and Taoist people."
"There will be a military meeting in the evening to discuss the replacement of the flint musket."
"Tomorrow morning, I will attend a meeting about the state of Qin. At noon, I will finalize my speech at the meeting of princes. Tomorrow evening, I will meet Yang Zhu and Lie Yukou."
"The morning after tomorrow, I'm going to discuss with Shi Jiao about 'universe' and 'up and down are relative' and other issues about whether the earth is flat or round..."
Shi nodded, and asked again: "People from other schools, please make arrangements after you come here. Don't make any inappropriate arrangements."
The secretary smiled and said: "Don't worry, Juzi, not only we should pay attention to decency, but they should also pay attention to it. Originally, Zhang Zhiru's hospitality standard can be slightly higher, and they can learn from each other in some matters and some of our ideas." , there are some places that support us morally, plus the inheritance relationship between Zimozi and them."
"But because of our relationship with Confucianism, Zizhang Zhiru's successors took the initiative to say that all hospitality standards are the same as those of the other sects... Confucianism is the sworn enemy, they don't want to bear the infamy of betraying Confucianism. They are already lowly Confucians, no I hope that being a Confucian of the Lezheng clan will be scolded as a concubine."
"Hmm... so I hope we don't welcome the part of Lezheng's Confucianism. Anyway, let's discuss things like grammar, grammar, and rhetoric. Don't be in a hurry to compare things with words..."
(End of this chapter)
After asking a word, Shi's voice was loud, not only asking Xu Xi, but also Xu Xi's disciples.
Mohism does not lack a Xu Xie, what is lacking is more comrades who are beneficial to the heart of the world, and devote themselves to the coming world of great chaos and chaos.
What the Mohist valued was not Xu Xi, but hundreds of peasant disciples, who benefited the world and even caused some big disturbances in Song Dynasty.
The peasant disciples on the right side of the lower head were already nodding their heads after hearing Shi's words. Many of them showed a sense of sudden enlightenment, and some of them pressed their swords and were eager to join in immediately.
After they came to Sishang, they saw everything in Sishang, including the farmers whose living standard in Sishang was much higher than other places.
With the excess profits, the farmers in the Sishang Cooperative Village live much higher than those in other places.
This is a vertical comparison, but in the eyes of these people this is a horizontal comparison.
The winner may not be right, but it is politically correct to some extent.
The utilitarianism of Mohism and the logic of some behaviors are not evaluated with morality as the first starting point.
As Mozi said, there are three forms to be corrected.
Mozi said, if you want to be in line with the will of heaven, then how can you be considered to be in line with the will of heaven?The answer is that the sum of social wealth increases, the majority of people benefit, and the population increases.
It has nothing to do with the theory of morality and heart.
And how strong is the utilitarianism of Mohism?
Kill one person to benefit the world, kill or not?The answer is, kill.
Is Wang Zilu willing to commit suicide after being forced into power?The answer is, bullshit benevolence and righteousness, if you do it, you can do it, and after you do it, you can get rid of the coup d'état and benefit the people. You must use the results to evaluate benevolence and righteousness!You wiped your neck and died, leaving your reputation behind. What will the people of Chu do?
It's like the people in Sishang who said, "Although I'm not a Mohist, I can't die for the benefit of the world, but I pay taxes normally, I serve in the military, and I get rich under the premise that the law does not prohibit or permit, so I am legal." Yu Tianzhi is the best respect for Haotian God by people other than Mohists who are always dying for the benefit of the world." This strange ethical logic is the same, and it pays more attention to the result than the process.
Pure moral justice, where there is only right and wrong, because virtue is the highest standard, there are only good and bad, there is no difference between very good, quite good, good, not good, bad, and very bad.
The Mohist's emphasis on the word "quan" made it impossible for the Mohist to regard virtue as the highest standard.
Power, take the big and abandon the small, take the big profit and small harm and give up the big harm and small profit, then it can't be black and white.
Of course, this may not be correct, but it is a short-term plan that takes advantage of the great changes unseen in a thousand years to take Zhu Xia and Kyushu forward instead of waiting for the "self-transformation of all things" to slowly accumulate and may be interrupted. Best way to sprout.
Is there any reason for the morality of the peasant family?
In fact, for the Mohists, it makes a lot of sense.
Because the Mohists say: Righteousness is profit.
Different classes have different interests, so they have different righteousness.If small farmers directly support the cruel industrial and commercial development, it is definitely a brain-hip split, and they will be looked down upon by the Mohists.
The problem of importing food is causing a lot of trouble in Sishang. In the long run, this is exactly what I want most: People wake up from ignorance. Even if the Mohist family fails one day, the awakened people will no longer be willing. Go to sleep.
The debate between Shi and Xu Xi has been changing concepts from the very beginning.
Xu Xi wants to argue and win.
It's not to win Xu Xi's argument, but to convince those peasant disciples.
The starting point of the two people is completely different.
Did Shi Debate win Xu Xi?
Shi felt that it was not. In the end, he still did not solve the problem of "whether the scissors difference between industrial and commercial workers is unfair to farmers", but secretly changed the concept and became "which one should be solved first, the big unfairness or the small unfairness?" question.
To clarify this issue, it cannot be clarified in three to five days, nor can it be clarified now.
Appropriately turn the judgment question into a multiple choice question.
Using Mohism's utilitarianism distorts the moral justice of the problem.
Utilitarianism is optional.
Moral justice has only right and wrong, right and wrong, without trade-offs.
Xu Xi could feel that the debate was not over at all, but there was no way to continue the debate directly.
It is appropriate to throw this question now, and ask him if he would like to benefit the world together?
He had to answer.must answer.
If he didn't answer, his disciples would be disappointed, and they might go to the Mohist organization department to write an application at night.
His answer is tantamount to acknowledging that this is a choice rather than right and wrong.
Unless he is now slapping the table and saying that I think it must be perfect and fair, and Xu Xi understands that, in order to adapt to his previous performance, he must ask him how to do it?
Then he couldn't find a way.
The disciples followed him not because they wanted to benefit, but because they wanted to benefit the world. It just happened that the disciples believed that Xu Xi's morality could benefit the world.
Now the Mohist has also given a better way to benefit the world, with a plan, a routine, a long-term, and a present, and it has given enough steps to the farm: let’s get rid of the nobles together first, and then let’s talk about the righteousness of the Kyushu Zhuxia, In other words, profit tends to favor which class in the society.
The Mohists are preparing to tear themselves apart from the old world, so it can be said so bluntly: we just want to make trouble, we prepare muskets and cannons, just to benefit the world, and the biggest obstacle to benefit the world now is those silverfish, we want to make trouble Drop them, do you come together?
The inference made by the top Mohists before that there will be a balance of terror within five years; Catch me!
Wei Guo didn't dare to catch it, because he was afraid that the chrysanthemum would be exploded by Qin Guo.
Zhao Guo didn't dare to catch him himself. If he wanted to catch him, he had to pull Wei Guo.
The state of Chu has just finished a battle, internal problems have not yet been resolved, and the reform of centralization is at its most intense. Now that the king of Chu is carrying out with Sishang, it will be a kick on the steel plate, and all the achievements of the reform will be wiped out.If he didn't take advantage of Chen Cai's huge prestige to change quickly, the king of Chu's mind must be rusted.
Qi Guo couldn't recover within five years of being bullied, and he was even more powerless.
This is also the external reason why the entire public opinion has turned on a large scale after the entire government came to power, and it is not a means to benefit the world at this stage to declare that non-offensive is not the way to benefit the world at this stage, to expand the military officer corps on a large scale, and to force businessmen to reduce taxes from Chuyue ballast rice.
Even before this great debate among scholars, the Mohists directly explained the external reasons for inviting farmers to conspire with each other.
At this moment, Xu Xi has no other choice, no matter from the attitude of his disciples or the future of "negotiable in the future" given by the Mohists, he can only choose to benefit the world together.
Merchants seek profits, and they will trample on all the laws of the world for the sake of profits. This is the plight of small farmers in some areas of Chu State, and it is also the source of the same price that small farmers most hope for.
The reality that Fengjun’s land rent exploitation, heavy corvee, and commodity dumping must intensify exploitation to maintain the quality of life is the source of the small peasant class’s favorite "sages and people farming together".
Sishang's "imperialist" tactics of dumping, monopoly, excess profits, selling arms, and inciting wars have exacerbated this contradiction.Moreover, there is a faction of Mohists who plausibly believe that I dump, I force Qi Chu to be exempt from tariffs, I incite wars, I sell arms, and I obtain excess profits, but I am for the benefit of the world in the future.
Xu Xi didn't think of the latter point, but was only opposing the first two points. Sishang's exclusive pricing of salt and iron was also one of the reasons why Xu Xi was able to accept the Mohist theory.
Under the eager anticipation of his disciples, Xu Xi had no choice but to say: "Our farm family is also beneficial to the hearts of the world. As you said, we can seek common ground while reserving differences. We can talk about our affairs in the future. But how should we talk about it in the future?"
Shi said: "Do you know the balance of specimens taught by Zimozi?"
The specimen in the Mohist context is a lever, and Xu Xi still understands this.
He nodded, and said conveniently: "The specimen is the lever. You can know the weight, the calculated length, and the original weight. As long as a balance is reached through the calculation of Tianzhi, and the price is controlled within a certain range, you can So that common people, peasants, businessmen and commerce benefit, and they can all accept it.”
"This is the Ten Thousand Peoples Law Conference in Sishang. Righteousness is profit. Different classes have different interests, so they have different righteousness. Everyone takes a step back and talks if they can negotiate, and fight if they can't agree."
"The farmer can still talk to us, but there is no way to talk to the princes and nobles. We can't talk, and you can't talk. No matter how bad it is, there is still a "Price Limit Act" on Sishang. At that time, prices in Sishang were also stable.”
Anne, we must fight against the outside world first.There is no doubt that the current propaganda of the Sishang Mohism in the market has created a common enemy for farmers, industry, and merchants—nobility, which is the distinction between inside and outside.
Xu Xi did not question why the Mohist "universal love" is still keen on fighting, because since the time of Mozi, the Mohist has said that punishing unrighteousness is the embodiment of universal love. Be the drummer who "beats the drums."
His attitude towards Sishang is close, but he is somewhat dissatisfied with Sishang who represents the interests of industrial and commercial people.
So he asked with a half-smile and half-seriousness: "When the people rule the law, the number of farmers is always the largest. There are ten or nine people in the world who work in agriculture."
"The Mohists say that righteousness is profit. If the Mohist's righteousness represents the interests of businessmen in the future, the number of businessmen will be small...the Mohist won't engage in the matter of dividing the proportion of people's representatives according to property and tax payment?"
Shi Ye kept laughing and said solemnly: "No, no! This is the most basic morality, which we can't violate. Zimozi said that righteousness must be in line with the will of heaven. People are nothing but old and young, noble and humble. The will of heaven that all are equal remains unchanged, and the thing you said about dividing the representatives of the people according to property and tax payment will not happen."
Only then did Xu Xi take a sip of water from the porcelain cup printed with "Gou benefit the world, life and death" in front of him, moistening his already dry throat, and the disciples under him let out bursts of cheers.
Once the overall situation is settled, there is no need to discuss the remaining issues with Xu Xi, but leave it to others.
After the two got up and saluted each other, they said goodbye first, and there were two people in charge of the Mohist School waiting to talk to Xu Xi.
One is the strategy in the direction of the Song Dynasty. The farmers in some cities of the Song Dynasty are very suitable for the interests of the landless farmers and develop rapidly.
The other is to arrange for a small experimental field of the farm family in Chu State and the farm family to become an official in Sishang to benefit the world together.
Neither of these needs to be discussed with Xu Xi.
After the crowd dispersed, the stenographers compared with each other and made up what they didn't write down.
Shi Shi's personal secretary immediately stepped forward, handed over a form and said, "Young Master, this is the arrangement for these few days."
Shi Shi rubbed his eyes, feeling a little tired. The secretary understood, so he said with a very good memory: "In the evening, you will attend the banquet with the farmer's family. In the evening, you will go to the theater to watch a performance with the farmer's family and Taoist people."
"There will be a military meeting in the evening to discuss the replacement of the flint musket."
"Tomorrow morning, I will attend a meeting about the state of Qin. At noon, I will finalize my speech at the meeting of princes. Tomorrow evening, I will meet Yang Zhu and Lie Yukou."
"The morning after tomorrow, I'm going to discuss with Shi Jiao about 'universe' and 'up and down are relative' and other issues about whether the earth is flat or round..."
Shi nodded, and asked again: "People from other schools, please make arrangements after you come here. Don't make any inappropriate arrangements."
The secretary smiled and said: "Don't worry, Juzi, not only we should pay attention to decency, but they should also pay attention to it. Originally, Zhang Zhiru's hospitality standard can be slightly higher, and they can learn from each other in some matters and some of our ideas." , there are some places that support us morally, plus the inheritance relationship between Zimozi and them."
"But because of our relationship with Confucianism, Zizhang Zhiru's successors took the initiative to say that all hospitality standards are the same as those of the other sects... Confucianism is the sworn enemy, they don't want to bear the infamy of betraying Confucianism. They are already lowly Confucians, no I hope that being a Confucian of the Lezheng clan will be scolded as a concubine."
"Hmm... so I hope we don't welcome the part of Lezheng's Confucianism. Anyway, let's discuss things like grammar, grammar, and rhetoric. Don't be in a hurry to compare things with words..."
(End of this chapter)
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