Rebirth of the internet boss
Chapter 326 I was slapped in the face by myself!
Chapter 326 I was slapped in the face by myself!
But before leaving, Ma Yun was still not reconciled to Ali's parting ways with Fengrui. After all, Fengrui now represents the top power of China's Internet, Ma Yun still made the final "retention" to Li Feng,
Ma Yun said to Li Feng "with emotion and reason", "Mr. Li, third-party payment software will definitely have a lot to do in the future. I believe you have also seen this.
You should also know that this third-party payment software is the most suitable for e-commerce, and it can even be said that e-commerce is the 'hotbed' of this third-party payment software.
I also know that Mr. Li has a long-term vision, but you should also know that the entire Internet market is very large, no matter how powerful Fengrui is, it is impossible to control everything, so you should also need a partner, and our Ali is the largest e-commerce in China company,
So I think we still have a lot of foundations for cooperation. Only a monopoly can maximize profits, so whether it is for Fengrui, for Ali, or for us all, it is a matter of "co-authorship and mutual benefit". "
Li Feng had to admit that what Ma Yun said was very reasonable, just like in the previous life, Tengxun and Ali fought fiercely in mobile payment, didn't they just want to monopolize this market in the end!
But what if the two were merged from the beginning?Everyone, just wash up and go to sleep!
So, Li Feng also asked, "Then what do you mean?"
Ma Yun thought for a while, showed the greatest sincerity, and finally bit her teeth and said: "Since you don't want us to take control of Ali, then Ali and Fengrui will jointly form a company, and the shares will be split [-]-[-], how about it?" ?”
This is indeed a very tempting solution!
Li Feng also thought about it, but in the end Li Feng shook his head and said, "It's indeed a good idea, but I still have three small requests?"
Ma Yun also asked calmly: "What do you think? It doesn't matter if it's too much."
Li Feng said directly: "The first one is very simple. I hope that there will be no foreign shares in this joint venture company. Our Alipay is all controlled by our Fengrui team."
Without thinking about it, Ma Yun said, "Okay, this one is fine, what about the second one?"
Li Feng continued: "The second answer is also very simple, I hope your Ali Wangwang will be replaced by our Fengrui YY, or our Fengrui can buy it directly."
Without even thinking about it, Ma Yun replied: "Yes, this is no problem, what about the third one?"
However, Li Feng paused when he talked about the third one, and then said: "The third one is also very simple. I hope that the share structure of this joint venture company will be 51% from our Fengrui and 49% from your Alibaba. How about it? As long as you agree On this condition, we can sign the contract now.”
Ma Yun still said without thinking: "Yes, uh..." But before Ma Yun finished speaking, she said loudly, "President Li, don't be too sharp, our Ali has already made a very huge sacrifice. "
Facing the furious Ma Yun, Li Feng still said slowly: "Isn't it just a 1% share gap, do you need to shout so loudly!"
Seeing that Li Feng was still "pretending to be stupid", Ma Yun became even more anxious, and said angrily, "President Li, is this a 1% gap? It's clear that you Fengrui have no sincerity!"
The reason for Ma Yun's rage is very simple. Although the gap between 51% and 50% is only 1%, the nature of the enterprise is definitely different, and they are two completely different concepts.
Nine lines of equity life:
1. Absolute control of 67%, equivalent to 100% of the power to amend the company's articles of association/separation, merger, change of main business projects, major decisions;
For example, Fengrui: Li Feng owns 64.8% of Fengrui Technology’s controlling shares, plus the 16.2% of the entire management’s controlling shares, which directly equals 81% absolute control, so Li Feng can directly dissolve the board of directors, it doesn’t matter whether he has or not.
2. The relative control right is 51%, the control line, and the absolute control of the company; this is the focus of the competition between Fengrui and Ali.
3. 34% security control rights, one-vote veto power;
4. 30% of listed companies’ tender offer line;
5. 20% major horizontal competition warning line;
6. 10% of the right to interim meetings, which can raise inquiries/investigate/prosecute/liquidate/dissolute the company;
7. 5% warning line for major equity changes;
8. Temporary proposal rights 3%, hold a small meeting in advance;
9. 1% of subrogation rights, also known as derivative litigation rights, can indirectly investigate and sue (initiate an investigation by the board of supervisors or the board of directors).
Li Feng has always been "head-to-head", and said with forceful words: "Old Ma, it is absolutely no problem for you to divide the shares according to the current situation, even four-six, three-seven is also no problem, but you forgot one thing?"
Ma Yun also calmed down, and asked wonderingly: "That point?"
Li Feng pointed to his head, and said directly and forcefully: "Me! I think I should be worth the money!
I can save Alipay from many detours. It can also be said that it is our third-party software. I am used to saying it is Alipay. Don’t be fooled, it is our joint-stock third-party payment software company anyway.
And I can also guarantee that Alipay will only succeed and not fail in the future, so I think the 1% share gap is nothing to worry about. Why don’t I own that share! "
For all those who have studied the history of Fengrui's development, Fengrui's achievements today are absolutely inseparable from the founder Li Feng. Li Feng has also proved his advanced strategic vision and layout with repeated successes, so immediately Yun is indeed moved, this is indeed what she needs.
Seeing that Ma Yun was about to "rebel", Li Feng decided to add more fire, just like Ma Yun poured chicken soup on others in his previous life, and said to Ma Yun: "Old Ma, why don't we make a bet and make a match?" Gambling agreement!"
Ma Yun asked curiously, "How do you bet?"
Li Feng said directly: "Let's use ten years as the limit, I can guarantee that within ten years, I can make Alipay's market value exceed [-] billion, and it is US dollars!
If I bring the market value or valuation of Alipay to hundreds of billions of dollars, then you, Ma Yun, will lose 10% of my shares; if I don’t bring it, then I will lose 10% of your shares. "
Betting against each other can also be said to be another sharp weapon for Li Feng, just like no one knows or is sure that the era of Internet and mobile is coming, but Li Feng dares to guarantee it!
Even when Fengrui first formally raised funds, Li Feng directly raised Fengrui's valuation from US$3 million to US$5 million through a VAM agreement.
And Li Feng wanted to replicate that incident again. It was only 2005, and ten years later, in 2015, Ant Financial Services, the parent company of Alipay in the previous life, was almost US$700 billion. No matter how Tenpay combined, it would cost [-] billion U.S. dollars, not to mention that with Li Feng's advice, it could not be less than [-] billion U.S. dollars, so Li Feng also made this bet with confidence!
What Li Feng didn't realize was that Ma Yun wasn't Sun Zhengyi!And the Li Feng back then is not the Li Feng now!
Back then, Fengrui was just a grassroots start-up company, and Li Feng's words were useless; but now Fengrui is one of the top Internet tycoons in China, even if Li Feng farts, it will be delicious!
Ma Yun, who was a little excited at first, became more confident in launching Ali's own third-party payment software after hearing Li Feng's words!
What does it mean that Li Feng can make such a firm promise? This shows that the future of third-party payment software is much bigger than I imagined. Let alone hundreds of billions of dollars, as long as there are tens of billions of dollars, I will burn the incense up!
As for how Ali's third-party payment software will develop in the future, Fengrui has already drawn a blueprint for itself, and he only needs to develop step by step.
In the end, Ma Yun gave the answer: "Mr. Li, a bird in the hand is worse than a hundred birds in the forest. No matter how good the future is, it is not as good as the reality in front of us. If we Ali can't control our own destiny, it is better to let us do it ourselves, so We mean a [-]-[-] split at most, but we will definitely listen to Mr. Li’s opinions when we establish a new board of directors in the future.”
Ma Yun also wants to work for him for nothing!
After hearing Ma Yun's answer, Li Feng knew that what he just said was wrong, and he shouldn't have mentioned betting. The "small" always bet against the "big", and the "weak" bet against the "strong".
And I happened to be the other way around, no wonder Ma Yu became suspicious, Li Feng didn't expect that in the end, he lifted a rock and hit his foot, and he was slapped in the face by himself!I also blame myself for expressing too eagerly, which was seen by the teacher Ma with the highest EQ,
But this itself is not in my layout, and my purpose is nothing more than to let Ali continue to use his Alipay.
Li Feng sighed, and finally replied: "Let's go back to the original starting point. Everything should be done according to the contract. It's getting late. I have to receive other guests, so I'm sorry."
Seeing Li Feng leave, Cai Chongxin who was next to him stood up and moved around a few times. Just now Li Feng and Ma Yun were "fighting with each other" around the third-party payment software, which made Cai Chongxin dare not move, for fear that the battlefield would be moved to himself.
After finally waiting for Li Feng to leave, Cai Chongxin got up to move his hands and feet, and Ma Yun also stood there and breathed a sigh of relief. The meeting with Li Feng just now did consume a lot of his brain cells, and he felt like when he was just starting a business.
After resting for a while, Cai Chongxin asked Ma Yun: "President Ma, is it okay if we offend Fengrui like this?"
Ma Yun also said helplessly: "There is nothing to do if you don't offend. Do you think I want to establish such a strong enemy for no reason! But since I have already offended, it doesn't matter. Didn't Feng Rui come here step by step? "
Cai Chongxin continued to ask: "Then shall we still act according to the contract?"
Ma Yun thought for a while and said helplessly: "Just act according to the contract, let Taobao continue to use Fengrui's Alipay, and don't play those tricks, there is no way, who is Fengrui and our Ali 5% Let’s wait until we take back Ali’s controlling stake in the future.”
Finally, Cai Chongxin asked again: "What about us now? Are we still going to participate in Fengrui's opener conference?"
Now that he has chosen to become an enemy with Feng Rui, is it necessary to stay and watch the enemy's performance?
And Ma Yun said without thinking: "Participate! Why don't you participate? You can live for free even if you have food and drink. Where can you find such a good job? Why don't you participate!..."
Cai Chongxin was just about to complain, but after hearing what Ma Yun had said, he finally added in a murmur, "Since Li Feng dares to reject our Ali's sincerity, then Li Feng must have follow-up means, we'd better stay and see Look good."
(End of this chapter)
But before leaving, Ma Yun was still not reconciled to Ali's parting ways with Fengrui. After all, Fengrui now represents the top power of China's Internet, Ma Yun still made the final "retention" to Li Feng,
Ma Yun said to Li Feng "with emotion and reason", "Mr. Li, third-party payment software will definitely have a lot to do in the future. I believe you have also seen this.
You should also know that this third-party payment software is the most suitable for e-commerce, and it can even be said that e-commerce is the 'hotbed' of this third-party payment software.
I also know that Mr. Li has a long-term vision, but you should also know that the entire Internet market is very large, no matter how powerful Fengrui is, it is impossible to control everything, so you should also need a partner, and our Ali is the largest e-commerce in China company,
So I think we still have a lot of foundations for cooperation. Only a monopoly can maximize profits, so whether it is for Fengrui, for Ali, or for us all, it is a matter of "co-authorship and mutual benefit". "
Li Feng had to admit that what Ma Yun said was very reasonable, just like in the previous life, Tengxun and Ali fought fiercely in mobile payment, didn't they just want to monopolize this market in the end!
But what if the two were merged from the beginning?Everyone, just wash up and go to sleep!
So, Li Feng also asked, "Then what do you mean?"
Ma Yun thought for a while, showed the greatest sincerity, and finally bit her teeth and said: "Since you don't want us to take control of Ali, then Ali and Fengrui will jointly form a company, and the shares will be split [-]-[-], how about it?" ?”
This is indeed a very tempting solution!
Li Feng also thought about it, but in the end Li Feng shook his head and said, "It's indeed a good idea, but I still have three small requests?"
Ma Yun also asked calmly: "What do you think? It doesn't matter if it's too much."
Li Feng said directly: "The first one is very simple. I hope that there will be no foreign shares in this joint venture company. Our Alipay is all controlled by our Fengrui team."
Without thinking about it, Ma Yun said, "Okay, this one is fine, what about the second one?"
Li Feng continued: "The second answer is also very simple, I hope your Ali Wangwang will be replaced by our Fengrui YY, or our Fengrui can buy it directly."
Without even thinking about it, Ma Yun replied: "Yes, this is no problem, what about the third one?"
However, Li Feng paused when he talked about the third one, and then said: "The third one is also very simple. I hope that the share structure of this joint venture company will be 51% from our Fengrui and 49% from your Alibaba. How about it? As long as you agree On this condition, we can sign the contract now.”
Ma Yun still said without thinking: "Yes, uh..." But before Ma Yun finished speaking, she said loudly, "President Li, don't be too sharp, our Ali has already made a very huge sacrifice. "
Facing the furious Ma Yun, Li Feng still said slowly: "Isn't it just a 1% share gap, do you need to shout so loudly!"
Seeing that Li Feng was still "pretending to be stupid", Ma Yun became even more anxious, and said angrily, "President Li, is this a 1% gap? It's clear that you Fengrui have no sincerity!"
The reason for Ma Yun's rage is very simple. Although the gap between 51% and 50% is only 1%, the nature of the enterprise is definitely different, and they are two completely different concepts.
Nine lines of equity life:
1. Absolute control of 67%, equivalent to 100% of the power to amend the company's articles of association/separation, merger, change of main business projects, major decisions;
For example, Fengrui: Li Feng owns 64.8% of Fengrui Technology’s controlling shares, plus the 16.2% of the entire management’s controlling shares, which directly equals 81% absolute control, so Li Feng can directly dissolve the board of directors, it doesn’t matter whether he has or not.
2. The relative control right is 51%, the control line, and the absolute control of the company; this is the focus of the competition between Fengrui and Ali.
3. 34% security control rights, one-vote veto power;
4. 30% of listed companies’ tender offer line;
5. 20% major horizontal competition warning line;
6. 10% of the right to interim meetings, which can raise inquiries/investigate/prosecute/liquidate/dissolute the company;
7. 5% warning line for major equity changes;
8. Temporary proposal rights 3%, hold a small meeting in advance;
9. 1% of subrogation rights, also known as derivative litigation rights, can indirectly investigate and sue (initiate an investigation by the board of supervisors or the board of directors).
Li Feng has always been "head-to-head", and said with forceful words: "Old Ma, it is absolutely no problem for you to divide the shares according to the current situation, even four-six, three-seven is also no problem, but you forgot one thing?"
Ma Yun also calmed down, and asked wonderingly: "That point?"
Li Feng pointed to his head, and said directly and forcefully: "Me! I think I should be worth the money!
I can save Alipay from many detours. It can also be said that it is our third-party software. I am used to saying it is Alipay. Don’t be fooled, it is our joint-stock third-party payment software company anyway.
And I can also guarantee that Alipay will only succeed and not fail in the future, so I think the 1% share gap is nothing to worry about. Why don’t I own that share! "
For all those who have studied the history of Fengrui's development, Fengrui's achievements today are absolutely inseparable from the founder Li Feng. Li Feng has also proved his advanced strategic vision and layout with repeated successes, so immediately Yun is indeed moved, this is indeed what she needs.
Seeing that Ma Yun was about to "rebel", Li Feng decided to add more fire, just like Ma Yun poured chicken soup on others in his previous life, and said to Ma Yun: "Old Ma, why don't we make a bet and make a match?" Gambling agreement!"
Ma Yun asked curiously, "How do you bet?"
Li Feng said directly: "Let's use ten years as the limit, I can guarantee that within ten years, I can make Alipay's market value exceed [-] billion, and it is US dollars!
If I bring the market value or valuation of Alipay to hundreds of billions of dollars, then you, Ma Yun, will lose 10% of my shares; if I don’t bring it, then I will lose 10% of your shares. "
Betting against each other can also be said to be another sharp weapon for Li Feng, just like no one knows or is sure that the era of Internet and mobile is coming, but Li Feng dares to guarantee it!
Even when Fengrui first formally raised funds, Li Feng directly raised Fengrui's valuation from US$3 million to US$5 million through a VAM agreement.
And Li Feng wanted to replicate that incident again. It was only 2005, and ten years later, in 2015, Ant Financial Services, the parent company of Alipay in the previous life, was almost US$700 billion. No matter how Tenpay combined, it would cost [-] billion U.S. dollars, not to mention that with Li Feng's advice, it could not be less than [-] billion U.S. dollars, so Li Feng also made this bet with confidence!
What Li Feng didn't realize was that Ma Yun wasn't Sun Zhengyi!And the Li Feng back then is not the Li Feng now!
Back then, Fengrui was just a grassroots start-up company, and Li Feng's words were useless; but now Fengrui is one of the top Internet tycoons in China, even if Li Feng farts, it will be delicious!
Ma Yun, who was a little excited at first, became more confident in launching Ali's own third-party payment software after hearing Li Feng's words!
What does it mean that Li Feng can make such a firm promise? This shows that the future of third-party payment software is much bigger than I imagined. Let alone hundreds of billions of dollars, as long as there are tens of billions of dollars, I will burn the incense up!
As for how Ali's third-party payment software will develop in the future, Fengrui has already drawn a blueprint for itself, and he only needs to develop step by step.
In the end, Ma Yun gave the answer: "Mr. Li, a bird in the hand is worse than a hundred birds in the forest. No matter how good the future is, it is not as good as the reality in front of us. If we Ali can't control our own destiny, it is better to let us do it ourselves, so We mean a [-]-[-] split at most, but we will definitely listen to Mr. Li’s opinions when we establish a new board of directors in the future.”
Ma Yun also wants to work for him for nothing!
After hearing Ma Yun's answer, Li Feng knew that what he just said was wrong, and he shouldn't have mentioned betting. The "small" always bet against the "big", and the "weak" bet against the "strong".
And I happened to be the other way around, no wonder Ma Yu became suspicious, Li Feng didn't expect that in the end, he lifted a rock and hit his foot, and he was slapped in the face by himself!I also blame myself for expressing too eagerly, which was seen by the teacher Ma with the highest EQ,
But this itself is not in my layout, and my purpose is nothing more than to let Ali continue to use his Alipay.
Li Feng sighed, and finally replied: "Let's go back to the original starting point. Everything should be done according to the contract. It's getting late. I have to receive other guests, so I'm sorry."
Seeing Li Feng leave, Cai Chongxin who was next to him stood up and moved around a few times. Just now Li Feng and Ma Yun were "fighting with each other" around the third-party payment software, which made Cai Chongxin dare not move, for fear that the battlefield would be moved to himself.
After finally waiting for Li Feng to leave, Cai Chongxin got up to move his hands and feet, and Ma Yun also stood there and breathed a sigh of relief. The meeting with Li Feng just now did consume a lot of his brain cells, and he felt like when he was just starting a business.
After resting for a while, Cai Chongxin asked Ma Yun: "President Ma, is it okay if we offend Fengrui like this?"
Ma Yun also said helplessly: "There is nothing to do if you don't offend. Do you think I want to establish such a strong enemy for no reason! But since I have already offended, it doesn't matter. Didn't Feng Rui come here step by step? "
Cai Chongxin continued to ask: "Then shall we still act according to the contract?"
Ma Yun thought for a while and said helplessly: "Just act according to the contract, let Taobao continue to use Fengrui's Alipay, and don't play those tricks, there is no way, who is Fengrui and our Ali 5% Let’s wait until we take back Ali’s controlling stake in the future.”
Finally, Cai Chongxin asked again: "What about us now? Are we still going to participate in Fengrui's opener conference?"
Now that he has chosen to become an enemy with Feng Rui, is it necessary to stay and watch the enemy's performance?
And Ma Yun said without thinking: "Participate! Why don't you participate? You can live for free even if you have food and drink. Where can you find such a good job? Why don't you participate!..."
Cai Chongxin was just about to complain, but after hearing what Ma Yun had said, he finally added in a murmur, "Since Li Feng dares to reject our Ali's sincerity, then Li Feng must have follow-up means, we'd better stay and see Look good."
(End of this chapter)
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