Eighth year of Chongzhen
Chapter 464 Disagreements within the Qing Army
Chapter 464 Disagreements within the Qing Army
"Since no one has spoken, let me share a few words. The current situation is extremely unfavorable to our Qing Dynasty. It is not only a matter of how many troops have been lost, but the most important point is that Ming people's firearms are extremely difficult to control. If the confrontation continues, our army may repeat the same mistakes.
At present, our army has lost its vigor after repeated setbacks, and the morale of the army is extremely low. If there is no good way to deal with it, it is better to withdraw the troops and return to the north as soon as possible, so as not to mobilize a large number of troops to invite the battle. When the time comes, we will lose the opportunity to leave or stay. !
After returning to Shengjing to integrate the various ministries of the Eight Banners, strategically abandon the harassment of the Songjin front line, and instead send troops from the Xuanda of the Ming Dynasty and other places to raid the border, focusing on finding Ming craftsmen who are good at making firearms, as well as a huge amount of saltpeter Gunpowder, in a few years my Qing Dynasty will also have firearms equivalent to the Ming army, so this is the way for my Qing Dynasty to gain a foothold! "
As soon as Huang Taiji's words fell, Dorgon, who had already prepared a draft, was the first to speak out about his plan for the two white flags. He neither honored the emperor nor called mynah by mouth, and there was a clear lack of respect for Huang Taiji in his tone.
At the beginning, Dorgon expressed doubts and opposition to Huang Taiji's decision to raise heavy troops to the south, but now the facts provide the best evidence for his opposition.
According to Dorgon's thinking, the Qing Dynasty does not currently have the strength to swallow the entire western Liaoning of the Ming Dynasty in one bite. It should still adopt the method of dividing troops and looting, attacking Western Liaoning and Xuanda separately, and even invade Gyeonggi again from Gubeikou and other places.
After a few more raids, a large number of people, food and supplies were captured, and after digesting it, they launched a strong attack on the Ming army in western Liaoning, and took the entire land outside the pass in one fell swoop, thus having the ability to spy on the pass at any time and threaten the capital of the Ming Dynasty.
After a secret meeting, Dorgon and Azig believed that the failure of the Qing army this time was not so much due to the gap in strength, as it was caused by a strategic decision-making error.
If it weren't for Huang Taiji's insistence on gathering troops to go south, the current situation that cannot be dealt with would not have occurred. Since you, as the head of a country, do not have the ability to foresight, it is better to let others do it.
But judging from the current posture, Huang Taiji is obviously not willing to stop and return, but wants to wrestle with the Ming army again, trying to prove his strategy is correct with a victory.
In Dorgon's eyes, his starling's actions to save face were very stupid. As a result, it would only cause more casualties of the Eight Banners warriors, further weaken the strength of the Qing Dynasty, and finally lead to the inevitable ending.
In fact, if it weren't for the fact that Zhu Youjian came here through time travel, according to the original historical track, Huang Taiji's strategy of going south this time was very successful in the end.
Under his personal auspices, the Qing army adopted the tactics of besieging points to attack reinforcements and cutting off the Ming army's food roads. During the Songjin War that lasted for more than a year, the last elite troops of the Ming army were exhausted, which made Li Zicheng, Zhang Xianzhong, etc. A group of thieves pushed Da Ming into the abyss of death.
It is a pity that all the big bandits who ravaged the northern land of Ming Dynasty have all been wiped out, and only a few small bandits have become bandits who occupy the mountains and become kings, and the harm caused to the entire Ming Dynasty is negligible at all.
More importantly, what is now fighting against the Qing army is a brave army with sharp firearms, a dignified military appearance, strict military discipline, and sufficient food and wages, and it is no longer the local army such as Wang Pu, Bai Guangen, Wu Sangui, etc. who only cared about self-interest in history. head off.
The same strategy, different opponents, the ending is completely reversed.
The disrespect in Dorgon's attitude and the clear objection in his words made Huang Taiji very angry, but now that he is the emperor, it is really inconvenient to go out to argue with Dorgon in person, that would be too lacking of the dignity of the emperor.
Of course he understood what the Dorgon brothers were thinking. If the entire army were to withdraw to the north now, after returning to Shengjing, Liangbaiqi would definitely take advantage of the reason that Yuetuo missed the opportunity and caused heavy losses to the army to seize the population and property of Lianghongqi. Weaken your own right-hand man while strengthening your own strength to seek a higher status.
If he was in good health, the two white flags would have little chance of ascending to the throne, but Huang Taiji knew in his heart that his body would not last for a few years, and when he went underground, even if he had the support of Daishan and the brave Hauge Nor is it the opponent of the Dorgon brothers.
Maybe a few years after his death, the throne will become Dorgon's. According to Dorgon's ruthless temperament, his son will definitely not end well.
"The servant does not approve of what Prince Rui said!"
Just when Huang Taiji was embarrassed and angry, Ning Wanwo, who had insight into the situation on the field, stood up. This made Huang Taiji secretly relieved, and at the same time felt very relieved: I am still a Han slave who is caring and knows the critical moment. You have to stand up and defend your master, and when you go back, you must reward this good servant.
"Oh? Gongfu has something to say quickly! I know that Gongfu has the talent for planning the country, and he always hits the mark when he speaks. If you have something to think about, just speak out, don't worry about other things!"
Huang Taiji looked at Ning Wan with a smile and encouraged me warmly.
"My servant thanked the Emperor for his kindness. Although Prince Rui's words just now have some truth, but he forgot the key point: Time does not wait!"
After Ning finished, I first saluted Huang Taiji to express my gratitude, then straightened up and signaled to Dorgon, and then said.
"Time doesn't wait for me? What's the meaning of this statement? Lao Ning, if you have something to say, just say it, don't make these empty-headed tantalizing!"
Although Dorgon was unhappy that Ning Wanwo stepped forward to rescue Huang Taiji, he knew that this person was straightforward, not a villain who was good at sycophancy, and indeed had a strategy, a rare talent, so he treated Ning Wanwo very well. No ill feeling.
"Prince Rui, the current situation is indeed as you said. It is very unfavorable to our Qing Dynasty. There is no need to deny this. But, because of this, besides another bloody battle with the Ming Kingdom and massacres of the Ming Kingdom's new army, Future strategies cannot be launched.”
Everyone in the tent, including Huang Taiji, focused their eyes on Ning Wanwo, which made him feel extremely good about himself.
"Prince Rui said that the strategy of harassing Xuanda and other places is very good, but Prince Rui did not consider that if our army retreats here, the Ming Kingdom will definitely send tens of thousands of new troops in addition to the corresponding new troops. They were sent to the front line of Xuanda to replace the original old-style army. In this way, our army abandoned the pine brocade and turned to attack Xuanda, and the result was no different from what it is now.
Moreover, it takes a lot of time and money for the army to go back and forth. According to the current financial resources of my Daqing, I may not be able to afford much time. If the Ming people are like this time, they know the opportunity and set up a trap again. The result may be very unfavorable to me. ! "
What I said makes sense.
Knowing that the Qing army will not be able to attack Songjin again in the short term, the Ming army will definitely guess that the Qing army will invade Daming from other places next, and the current tens of thousands of horses will move to Xuanda, relying on the side wall castle. Rearrange the lines of defense.
It will take at least a month for the Qing army to go back to reorganize the army, then send sentries to spy on Xuanda's information to find places that are easy to attack, and then dispatch the army to move southwest.
For Jianzhou, where grain and grass supplies are increasingly scarce, the cost is too expensive.
And why did the Ming army deploy heavy troops to defend Xuanda?
Because the land of Xuanda is the most affluent and densely populated place among the nine borders, and it is also the closest to the capital of the Ming Dynasty. There is no need to fight other important border towns such as Gansu Town, Shaanxi Town, Ningxia Town, etc.
why?One is that it is too far away, and the other is that it is too poor, and it is not as good as spending as much as it costs itself.
Therefore, when the Qing army went south, only Liaoxi and Xuanda entered through the Great Wall. It became a frontier army, and under the situation where one man guards the gate and ten thousand men cannot open it, the army can't launch a strong attack at all.
Dorgon's strategy is good, but it is based on the fact that the Ming army will not strengthen its defense, but judging from the current planning of the Ming army, the Qing army's strategic intentions have long been arranged by others It's clear.
"Then according to what you said, Lao Ning, the only way to do it is to fight with the Ming people?"
Thank you for seeing or leaving, and rewarding today next year.
(End of this chapter)
"Since no one has spoken, let me share a few words. The current situation is extremely unfavorable to our Qing Dynasty. It is not only a matter of how many troops have been lost, but the most important point is that Ming people's firearms are extremely difficult to control. If the confrontation continues, our army may repeat the same mistakes.
At present, our army has lost its vigor after repeated setbacks, and the morale of the army is extremely low. If there is no good way to deal with it, it is better to withdraw the troops and return to the north as soon as possible, so as not to mobilize a large number of troops to invite the battle. When the time comes, we will lose the opportunity to leave or stay. !
After returning to Shengjing to integrate the various ministries of the Eight Banners, strategically abandon the harassment of the Songjin front line, and instead send troops from the Xuanda of the Ming Dynasty and other places to raid the border, focusing on finding Ming craftsmen who are good at making firearms, as well as a huge amount of saltpeter Gunpowder, in a few years my Qing Dynasty will also have firearms equivalent to the Ming army, so this is the way for my Qing Dynasty to gain a foothold! "
As soon as Huang Taiji's words fell, Dorgon, who had already prepared a draft, was the first to speak out about his plan for the two white flags. He neither honored the emperor nor called mynah by mouth, and there was a clear lack of respect for Huang Taiji in his tone.
At the beginning, Dorgon expressed doubts and opposition to Huang Taiji's decision to raise heavy troops to the south, but now the facts provide the best evidence for his opposition.
According to Dorgon's thinking, the Qing Dynasty does not currently have the strength to swallow the entire western Liaoning of the Ming Dynasty in one bite. It should still adopt the method of dividing troops and looting, attacking Western Liaoning and Xuanda separately, and even invade Gyeonggi again from Gubeikou and other places.
After a few more raids, a large number of people, food and supplies were captured, and after digesting it, they launched a strong attack on the Ming army in western Liaoning, and took the entire land outside the pass in one fell swoop, thus having the ability to spy on the pass at any time and threaten the capital of the Ming Dynasty.
After a secret meeting, Dorgon and Azig believed that the failure of the Qing army this time was not so much due to the gap in strength, as it was caused by a strategic decision-making error.
If it weren't for Huang Taiji's insistence on gathering troops to go south, the current situation that cannot be dealt with would not have occurred. Since you, as the head of a country, do not have the ability to foresight, it is better to let others do it.
But judging from the current posture, Huang Taiji is obviously not willing to stop and return, but wants to wrestle with the Ming army again, trying to prove his strategy is correct with a victory.
In Dorgon's eyes, his starling's actions to save face were very stupid. As a result, it would only cause more casualties of the Eight Banners warriors, further weaken the strength of the Qing Dynasty, and finally lead to the inevitable ending.
In fact, if it weren't for the fact that Zhu Youjian came here through time travel, according to the original historical track, Huang Taiji's strategy of going south this time was very successful in the end.
Under his personal auspices, the Qing army adopted the tactics of besieging points to attack reinforcements and cutting off the Ming army's food roads. During the Songjin War that lasted for more than a year, the last elite troops of the Ming army were exhausted, which made Li Zicheng, Zhang Xianzhong, etc. A group of thieves pushed Da Ming into the abyss of death.
It is a pity that all the big bandits who ravaged the northern land of Ming Dynasty have all been wiped out, and only a few small bandits have become bandits who occupy the mountains and become kings, and the harm caused to the entire Ming Dynasty is negligible at all.
More importantly, what is now fighting against the Qing army is a brave army with sharp firearms, a dignified military appearance, strict military discipline, and sufficient food and wages, and it is no longer the local army such as Wang Pu, Bai Guangen, Wu Sangui, etc. who only cared about self-interest in history. head off.
The same strategy, different opponents, the ending is completely reversed.
The disrespect in Dorgon's attitude and the clear objection in his words made Huang Taiji very angry, but now that he is the emperor, it is really inconvenient to go out to argue with Dorgon in person, that would be too lacking of the dignity of the emperor.
Of course he understood what the Dorgon brothers were thinking. If the entire army were to withdraw to the north now, after returning to Shengjing, Liangbaiqi would definitely take advantage of the reason that Yuetuo missed the opportunity and caused heavy losses to the army to seize the population and property of Lianghongqi. Weaken your own right-hand man while strengthening your own strength to seek a higher status.
If he was in good health, the two white flags would have little chance of ascending to the throne, but Huang Taiji knew in his heart that his body would not last for a few years, and when he went underground, even if he had the support of Daishan and the brave Hauge Nor is it the opponent of the Dorgon brothers.
Maybe a few years after his death, the throne will become Dorgon's. According to Dorgon's ruthless temperament, his son will definitely not end well.
"The servant does not approve of what Prince Rui said!"
Just when Huang Taiji was embarrassed and angry, Ning Wanwo, who had insight into the situation on the field, stood up. This made Huang Taiji secretly relieved, and at the same time felt very relieved: I am still a Han slave who is caring and knows the critical moment. You have to stand up and defend your master, and when you go back, you must reward this good servant.
"Oh? Gongfu has something to say quickly! I know that Gongfu has the talent for planning the country, and he always hits the mark when he speaks. If you have something to think about, just speak out, don't worry about other things!"
Huang Taiji looked at Ning Wan with a smile and encouraged me warmly.
"My servant thanked the Emperor for his kindness. Although Prince Rui's words just now have some truth, but he forgot the key point: Time does not wait!"
After Ning finished, I first saluted Huang Taiji to express my gratitude, then straightened up and signaled to Dorgon, and then said.
"Time doesn't wait for me? What's the meaning of this statement? Lao Ning, if you have something to say, just say it, don't make these empty-headed tantalizing!"
Although Dorgon was unhappy that Ning Wanwo stepped forward to rescue Huang Taiji, he knew that this person was straightforward, not a villain who was good at sycophancy, and indeed had a strategy, a rare talent, so he treated Ning Wanwo very well. No ill feeling.
"Prince Rui, the current situation is indeed as you said. It is very unfavorable to our Qing Dynasty. There is no need to deny this. But, because of this, besides another bloody battle with the Ming Kingdom and massacres of the Ming Kingdom's new army, Future strategies cannot be launched.”
Everyone in the tent, including Huang Taiji, focused their eyes on Ning Wanwo, which made him feel extremely good about himself.
"Prince Rui said that the strategy of harassing Xuanda and other places is very good, but Prince Rui did not consider that if our army retreats here, the Ming Kingdom will definitely send tens of thousands of new troops in addition to the corresponding new troops. They were sent to the front line of Xuanda to replace the original old-style army. In this way, our army abandoned the pine brocade and turned to attack Xuanda, and the result was no different from what it is now.
Moreover, it takes a lot of time and money for the army to go back and forth. According to the current financial resources of my Daqing, I may not be able to afford much time. If the Ming people are like this time, they know the opportunity and set up a trap again. The result may be very unfavorable to me. ! "
What I said makes sense.
Knowing that the Qing army will not be able to attack Songjin again in the short term, the Ming army will definitely guess that the Qing army will invade Daming from other places next, and the current tens of thousands of horses will move to Xuanda, relying on the side wall castle. Rearrange the lines of defense.
It will take at least a month for the Qing army to go back to reorganize the army, then send sentries to spy on Xuanda's information to find places that are easy to attack, and then dispatch the army to move southwest.
For Jianzhou, where grain and grass supplies are increasingly scarce, the cost is too expensive.
And why did the Ming army deploy heavy troops to defend Xuanda?
Because the land of Xuanda is the most affluent and densely populated place among the nine borders, and it is also the closest to the capital of the Ming Dynasty. There is no need to fight other important border towns such as Gansu Town, Shaanxi Town, Ningxia Town, etc.
why?One is that it is too far away, and the other is that it is too poor, and it is not as good as spending as much as it costs itself.
Therefore, when the Qing army went south, only Liaoxi and Xuanda entered through the Great Wall. It became a frontier army, and under the situation where one man guards the gate and ten thousand men cannot open it, the army can't launch a strong attack at all.
Dorgon's strategy is good, but it is based on the fact that the Ming army will not strengthen its defense, but judging from the current planning of the Ming army, the Qing army's strategic intentions have long been arranged by others It's clear.
"Then according to what you said, Lao Ning, the only way to do it is to fight with the Ming people?"
Thank you for seeing or leaving, and rewarding today next year.
(End of this chapter)
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