Beiyang 1917
Chapter 408 Must fight for time and space
1918年7月13ri18:55莫斯科克林姆林宫
"More than 20 Soviet Russian Red Army were wiped out by others. They didn't even figure out how many troops the coalition forces dispatched on the Ufa battlefield. It would be impossible for such an army to win the battle. Dzerzhinsky, in addition to eliminating the , intelligence work is also an important part of the Cheka organization, why you are so inefficient in collecting coalition intelligence, you have to give me an explanation!" Ulyanov roared in a stern voice.
Dzerzhinsky lowered his head and rubbed his hands, not knowing how to argue for a while. The power of the Bolsheviks was very weak in the vast Siberia and Far East east of the Ural Mountains, and the situation on the right bank of the Volga River was similar.
And because the Soviet Russian regime adopted red-terror and increasingly obvious class-only and family-only tendencies, the work of the Cheka has mainly evolved into internally finding enemies, traitors and insiders who have mixed into the revolutionary ranks , focusing on the internal purge of the Soviet Russian regime and the Bolsheviks, rather than the division, disintegration and instigation of rebellion within the enemy.
"Comrade Ulyanov, the Battle of Ufa has only been fought for a week, and we are still doing our best to understand the situation of the Ufa coalition forces, but because the coalition forces have implemented strict control and screening of personnel entering and leaving the Ural Pass , Although some of our people have passed through the east of the Ural Mountains, but no one can send back news." Dzerzhinsky said in a murmur.
"I'm talking about the west of the Ural Mountains! Not the east of the Ural Mountains, hell! Dzerzhinsky, are you hungry or something? Your voice is buzzing like a mosquito!" Ulyanov waved his hands. Emotions flared up again.
"Report, Comrade Chairman! At the request of the coalition forces, Kolchak's interim all-Russian government has taken measures to fortify the walls and clear the fields on the Great Plain of Ufa. The entire area on the right bank of the Volga River south of the Kamala River has almost been relocated. It is empty, which makes it impossible for our intelligence personnel to survive locally!"
Dzerzhinsky's voice had to rise, and the guy continued, "Moreover, the coalition forces enforced martial law in Ufa, and our informants in the all-Russian temporary government followed that government to the Ural Mountains Edom, and there is no chance to act without authorization, let alone carry a radio to send back information"
"What about Kazan! Didn't Kolchak have our people under his command? Why can't we get back the information? Could it be that they all betrayed our cause? Or are you developing mobs?" Wu Lyanov stared at Dzerzhinsky persistently.
"Comrade Chairman! The main force of the Southern Group of the Eastern Front Army and the First Army fought bloody battles with the coalition forces on the Great Plains of Ufa for a week! More than 20 people were wiped out and captured by others!
Shouldn't these frontline commanders tell you how many troops the coalition forces have!Even if my people have not been discovered by the enemy in the Kolchak government, but under the wartime military control and martial law enforced by the coalition forces, it is impossible to obtain enough battlefield intelligence! Dzerzhinsky couldn't help shouting as the veins on his neck swelled up.
"Comrade Ulyanov, our weakness in intelligence work is not the responsibility of Dzerzhinsky alone. The opponent in this battle of Ufa is not the former White Guards, but the Allied Forces!
Although at least half of them are Russian infantry divisions adapted from the White Guards and Volunteer Divisions, these units can be regarded as coalition forces. Whether it is troop deployment, mobilization, command and logistical support, firepower configuration and combat methods, they are all the same as before. The White Guards are very different! "
Trotsky came out to rescue Dzerzhinsky. When Trotsky and Ulyanov were at odds when negotiating "Brest-Litovsk" with Germany, Dzerzhinsky He Yuefei was firmly on Trotsky's side, which Trotsky always kept in mind.
"More than 20 troops have been wiped out by the enemy. Don't we know how many troops the coalition forces have dispatched to fight us? How can we win the battle if this continues?" Bukharin fanned the flames.
Ulyanov ignored Dzerzhinsky, turned to stare at Trotsky and said,
"Comrade Trotsky, you are the chairman of the Supreme Revolutionary Military Council. Do you know how many troops the enemy has dispatched on the Great Plain of Ufa?"
"When the coalition forces defended under the city of Ufa, they dispatched 8 Russian infantry divisions, at least 8 troops. Of course, when the three armies of Tukhachevsky's Southern Group add up to at least 16 people, the strength can be said It has an absolute advantage, but the opponent has more machine guns, more artillery, strong positions, and favorable terrain. It is understandable that the South Group’s attack failed.”
"The North Route Army of the Fifth Army Ekh was annihilated by the opponent overnight. I personally judge that the number of troops dispatched by the opponent will at least be no less than that of Ekh. At this time, the eight Russian divisions in Ufa are still besieging Rzhevs. There is a group of bases, so the coalition forces detoured on the north road should be new troops joining the battlefield, and it is very likely that Japan and the Japanese army have joined the battle."
"Then the coalition airstrikes the Yegorovdi Army of Bavley, and the opponent dispatched 150 fighter planes. Judging from the information our intelligence personnel obtained from the British government through the inside line, the air force of the National Army participating in the war probably has nearly 500 fighters!
"Of course, how many were sent to the Russian front is uncertain, but when the opponent marched into the Far East and Siberia, the scale of the air force dispatched was far less than this time. The details of the three-day and two-night breakout campaign are unknown, but if the opponent can To annihilate our encircled troops, the coalition forces will not be less than ours, even if the coalition forces have stronger firepower, there will be at least a 1:1 ratio.”
"It is estimated that there are at least 3 or more troops on the front lines of Orenburg, the Urals, and Samara that the opponent has occupied in a long-distance detour. On the whole, the coalition forces invested in the Ufa Battle are at least equivalent to ours. More than 20 is For sure, about half of them are Russian troops, and the rest are the main force of the Japanese and Japanese armies"
Trotsky based on his own inferences, combined with the feedback from the Southern Group's early operations, and came to the conclusion that the coalition forces dispatched at least 20 main forces on the Great Plains of Ufa.
"The coalition army has only 20 troops west of the Ural Mountains?" Ulyanov was a little uncertain. Now the Third Army and the Fifth Army of the Eastern Front of the Soviet Russian Red Army have nearly 10 troops who have not crossed the river. The Eighth and Tenth Armies of the Southern Front would add up to more than 10 people, if an additional 20 workers' pickets were urgently mobilized from Moscow and Petrograd to supplement the front-line troops.
The left bank of the Volga River may not be unstoppable. Is it necessary to negotiate peace with the Ufa coalition forces?Ulyanov expressed his doubts to the Central Committee members in the conference room.
"It won't work! Comrade Ulyanov, even if the coalition army has only 20 main troops, but their equipment is good, there are a lot of machine guns and cannons, and the air force is so sharp, if we don't improve the equipment and training of our troops Level, we can’t win by simply using the number of people, what we need now is time, before the Soviet Red Army is actually supplemented, especially the weapons are strengthened, we must avoid fighting the coalition again!”
Trotsky frowned and raised objections. At this time, any desperate adventure would only send more Red Army soldiers to the enemy's prison camps.
"Comrade Ulyanov, what Trotsky said is right, now we must avoid fighting the coalition forces again, until our Red Army is rebuilt and armed, we must avoid another defeat like the Battle of Ufa Otherwise, the prospects are not optimistic!" Kamenev stood up to support Trotsky's opinion.
Except for Bukharin who shook his head and didn't know what to say, Zinoviev, Dzerzhinsky, like Kamenev, all nodded in unison to echo Trotsky's opinion. We must never continue to fight with the Ufa coalition forces, we must fight for time and space.
"More than 20 Soviet Russian Red Army were wiped out by others. They didn't even figure out how many troops the coalition forces dispatched on the Ufa battlefield. It would be impossible for such an army to win the battle. Dzerzhinsky, in addition to eliminating the , intelligence work is also an important part of the Cheka organization, why you are so inefficient in collecting coalition intelligence, you have to give me an explanation!" Ulyanov roared in a stern voice.
Dzerzhinsky lowered his head and rubbed his hands, not knowing how to argue for a while. The power of the Bolsheviks was very weak in the vast Siberia and Far East east of the Ural Mountains, and the situation on the right bank of the Volga River was similar.
And because the Soviet Russian regime adopted red-terror and increasingly obvious class-only and family-only tendencies, the work of the Cheka has mainly evolved into internally finding enemies, traitors and insiders who have mixed into the revolutionary ranks , focusing on the internal purge of the Soviet Russian regime and the Bolsheviks, rather than the division, disintegration and instigation of rebellion within the enemy.
"Comrade Ulyanov, the Battle of Ufa has only been fought for a week, and we are still doing our best to understand the situation of the Ufa coalition forces, but because the coalition forces have implemented strict control and screening of personnel entering and leaving the Ural Pass , Although some of our people have passed through the east of the Ural Mountains, but no one can send back news." Dzerzhinsky said in a murmur.
"I'm talking about the west of the Ural Mountains! Not the east of the Ural Mountains, hell! Dzerzhinsky, are you hungry or something? Your voice is buzzing like a mosquito!" Ulyanov waved his hands. Emotions flared up again.
"Report, Comrade Chairman! At the request of the coalition forces, Kolchak's interim all-Russian government has taken measures to fortify the walls and clear the fields on the Great Plain of Ufa. The entire area on the right bank of the Volga River south of the Kamala River has almost been relocated. It is empty, which makes it impossible for our intelligence personnel to survive locally!"
Dzerzhinsky's voice had to rise, and the guy continued, "Moreover, the coalition forces enforced martial law in Ufa, and our informants in the all-Russian temporary government followed that government to the Ural Mountains Edom, and there is no chance to act without authorization, let alone carry a radio to send back information"
"What about Kazan! Didn't Kolchak have our people under his command? Why can't we get back the information? Could it be that they all betrayed our cause? Or are you developing mobs?" Wu Lyanov stared at Dzerzhinsky persistently.
"Comrade Chairman! The main force of the Southern Group of the Eastern Front Army and the First Army fought bloody battles with the coalition forces on the Great Plains of Ufa for a week! More than 20 people were wiped out and captured by others!
Shouldn't these frontline commanders tell you how many troops the coalition forces have!Even if my people have not been discovered by the enemy in the Kolchak government, but under the wartime military control and martial law enforced by the coalition forces, it is impossible to obtain enough battlefield intelligence! Dzerzhinsky couldn't help shouting as the veins on his neck swelled up.
"Comrade Ulyanov, our weakness in intelligence work is not the responsibility of Dzerzhinsky alone. The opponent in this battle of Ufa is not the former White Guards, but the Allied Forces!
Although at least half of them are Russian infantry divisions adapted from the White Guards and Volunteer Divisions, these units can be regarded as coalition forces. Whether it is troop deployment, mobilization, command and logistical support, firepower configuration and combat methods, they are all the same as before. The White Guards are very different! "
Trotsky came out to rescue Dzerzhinsky. When Trotsky and Ulyanov were at odds when negotiating "Brest-Litovsk" with Germany, Dzerzhinsky He Yuefei was firmly on Trotsky's side, which Trotsky always kept in mind.
"More than 20 troops have been wiped out by the enemy. Don't we know how many troops the coalition forces have dispatched to fight us? How can we win the battle if this continues?" Bukharin fanned the flames.
Ulyanov ignored Dzerzhinsky, turned to stare at Trotsky and said,
"Comrade Trotsky, you are the chairman of the Supreme Revolutionary Military Council. Do you know how many troops the enemy has dispatched on the Great Plain of Ufa?"
"When the coalition forces defended under the city of Ufa, they dispatched 8 Russian infantry divisions, at least 8 troops. Of course, when the three armies of Tukhachevsky's Southern Group add up to at least 16 people, the strength can be said It has an absolute advantage, but the opponent has more machine guns, more artillery, strong positions, and favorable terrain. It is understandable that the South Group’s attack failed.”
"The North Route Army of the Fifth Army Ekh was annihilated by the opponent overnight. I personally judge that the number of troops dispatched by the opponent will at least be no less than that of Ekh. At this time, the eight Russian divisions in Ufa are still besieging Rzhevs. There is a group of bases, so the coalition forces detoured on the north road should be new troops joining the battlefield, and it is very likely that Japan and the Japanese army have joined the battle."
"Then the coalition airstrikes the Yegorovdi Army of Bavley, and the opponent dispatched 150 fighter planes. Judging from the information our intelligence personnel obtained from the British government through the inside line, the air force of the National Army participating in the war probably has nearly 500 fighters!
"Of course, how many were sent to the Russian front is uncertain, but when the opponent marched into the Far East and Siberia, the scale of the air force dispatched was far less than this time. The details of the three-day and two-night breakout campaign are unknown, but if the opponent can To annihilate our encircled troops, the coalition forces will not be less than ours, even if the coalition forces have stronger firepower, there will be at least a 1:1 ratio.”
"It is estimated that there are at least 3 or more troops on the front lines of Orenburg, the Urals, and Samara that the opponent has occupied in a long-distance detour. On the whole, the coalition forces invested in the Ufa Battle are at least equivalent to ours. More than 20 is For sure, about half of them are Russian troops, and the rest are the main force of the Japanese and Japanese armies"
Trotsky based on his own inferences, combined with the feedback from the Southern Group's early operations, and came to the conclusion that the coalition forces dispatched at least 20 main forces on the Great Plains of Ufa.
"The coalition army has only 20 troops west of the Ural Mountains?" Ulyanov was a little uncertain. Now the Third Army and the Fifth Army of the Eastern Front of the Soviet Russian Red Army have nearly 10 troops who have not crossed the river. The Eighth and Tenth Armies of the Southern Front would add up to more than 10 people, if an additional 20 workers' pickets were urgently mobilized from Moscow and Petrograd to supplement the front-line troops.
The left bank of the Volga River may not be unstoppable. Is it necessary to negotiate peace with the Ufa coalition forces?Ulyanov expressed his doubts to the Central Committee members in the conference room.
"It won't work! Comrade Ulyanov, even if the coalition army has only 20 main troops, but their equipment is good, there are a lot of machine guns and cannons, and the air force is so sharp, if we don't improve the equipment and training of our troops Level, we can’t win by simply using the number of people, what we need now is time, before the Soviet Red Army is actually supplemented, especially the weapons are strengthened, we must avoid fighting the coalition again!”
Trotsky frowned and raised objections. At this time, any desperate adventure would only send more Red Army soldiers to the enemy's prison camps.
"Comrade Ulyanov, what Trotsky said is right, now we must avoid fighting the coalition forces again, until our Red Army is rebuilt and armed, we must avoid another defeat like the Battle of Ufa Otherwise, the prospects are not optimistic!" Kamenev stood up to support Trotsky's opinion.
Except for Bukharin who shook his head and didn't know what to say, Zinoviev, Dzerzhinsky, like Kamenev, all nodded in unison to echo Trotsky's opinion. We must never continue to fight with the Ufa coalition forces, we must fight for time and space.
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