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552 Injured Taiwan Machine Window Factory
ps: This is the second update today, and there will be at least two more updates in the future.
The power outage in the community started at 07:30 this evening. I don’t know when I will come back. I’m so miserable.I can only go to the outside network...
It is impossible for the entire Taiwan Machine Tool Association to agree to the fact that mainland officials want to exchange a multi-billion CNC machine tool production order in exchange for a key three-axis machining center order.
The mainland has become the largest market for Taiwan's machinery and equipment exports. It is impossible for them to let their huge Chinese competitors use their technology to produce the same products as them to compete in the mainland China market.
"Minister Chen, we also explained to you at the beginning that there is nothing we can do about exporting technology. After all, we also use Japanese technology. So far, we have not had the production technology of some processing centers..." Wang Zi Qing knew that even if they agreed to export their production technology to the mainland now, the more than one billion order swallowed by Jiuyi Heavy Industry would not be returned.
Chen Daoming stared at Wang Ziqing meaningfully, and instead of speaking, looked at Peng Zhi.
"Minister Chen, our Taiwan also belongs to China! This technology is in our hands and in the hands of the country. What is the difference? As long as it can provide production equipment for the country's national defense construction, it will be fine? We are not now Did you build the production plant in the mainland?" Peng Zhi said to Chen Youdao flatly.
The failure of the industry has always been the flaw of the mainland officials.
In particular, these CNC equipment, which are listed as strategic resources by developed countries in Europe and the United States, have always been difficult for Chinese mainland officials to obtain. If it were not for the disintegration of the Soviet Union, changes in the international situation, and Europe, the United States, and Japan have achieved higher standards in high-end machine tools. Achievements, it is also impossible to export a large number of ordinary processing centers that have been reduced to middle and low grades to mainland China.
The export of Taiwanese machine tool factories to the mainland is also restricted by the United States and Japan.
Otherwise, they will be sanctioned.
"Chairman Peng. In addition to the ordinary heavy equipment and CNC equipment, there are also not small orders for four-axis and five-axis. I wonder if you are interested?"
"Our current four-axis machining center is still under development, let alone five-axis! Minister Chen, don't you still need thousands of three-axis machining centers? Can you think of a way to do this? Help us win more shares?" Four-axis and five-axis?This bastard really dares to think.
If Wanyou Group could produce four-axis machining centers, why would they worry about insufficient production orders?
Although the four-axis machining center is not as widely used as the three-axis.But the profit in the middle is not comparable to that of the three-axis machining center.
Taiwan's CNC equipment manufacturer, because of its low cost, the equipment produced is cheaper than that of European and American countries. It is used for rough machining of those large machinery manufacturers. The efficiency is higher than that of ordinary mechanical equipment, and the cost is lower than that of European and American countries Locally produced precision equipment is much lower.
"The matter of the three-axis machining center. At least three state-owned machine tool factories have obtained the production technology. In five years, more than 3000 machining centers are not enough for the production of these large-capacity enterprises. Chairman Peng. If you want to If a group wants to get a piece of the pie, it must show sincerity. Only in this way can I help you maneuver in the middle." Although Jiuyi Heavy Industry has handed over the production technology, other factories.Except for the Capital One Machine, it is impossible to form large-scale production in a short period of time.
If the Taiwanese can hand over the core production technologies of machining centers such as high-speed spindles, ball screws, and servo motors.This is definitely a great achievement for him, the deputy minister who facilitated the completion of this matter.
At the same time, he can also use these technologies to lobby various departments to distribute orders for the remaining thousands of machining centers to these companies in Taiwan. This is not impossible.
If this agreement can really be reached, for him, he will also have an account for the country, and relieve his guilt and anxiety for doing some nasty things; Confession, to prevent the two sides from tearing their faces, and in the end he might even lose his life.
Jiuyi Heavy Industry's own servo motor technology is not very mature, so the agreement does not require them to provide servo motor production technology and research materials; and the precision transmission components such as ball screws are not Jiuyi Heavy Industry's production technology at all, Wang Qingfeng The factory manager didn't know where it was at all, and Lin Yajun, the factory director, couldn't be the master at all; as for the spindle unit, Yun Fei directly refused to hand it over, and even if he didn't want this order, he had to completely control it in his own hands.
On the entire machining center, the most technical part is the spindle.
The production technology of the whole machine is fine, but if you want to get the production technology of the core components, don't even think about it!
In this matter, even the old man has no way to force Yunfei to hand over the production technology of the main shaft.
The state-owned machine tool factory used Jiuyi Heavy Industry's production technology to compete with Jiuyi Heavy Industry, and originally it was to grab food from Jiuyi Heavy Industry's bowl. If Yunfei couldn't get a part of their production profits, how could he be willing?
The market price of the spindles produced by Jiuyi Heavy Industry is as high as RMB 3000 each!Compared with imported spindles, this is still more than 1 yuan cheaper.If the production plants such as Capital Yiji who have obtained the technology are unwilling to buy spindles from Jiuyi Heavy Industry, they can also buy them from companies in Taiwan, Europe, America and Japan!
And Xinkaixing's ball screw used in the machining center is also very expensive, and the price per meter is as high as 2000 RMB!And the imported ball screw is only [-] to [-] meters!
For the machining center produced by Jiuyi Heavy Industry, only the cost of the main shaft unit and the transmission unit accounts for one-fifth of the production cost of the entire equipment!
Similarly, this profit is much higher than one-fifth of the entire machine tool profit.
"Minister Chen, look at this, does it represent our sincerity?" Wu Chengfeng wished he could kill Chen Daoming, but he could only think about it!
200 million!
Still dollars!
These guys are rich!
Seeing the USD cash check handed over by Wu Chengfeng, Chen Daoming suddenly felt his breathing become a little short of breath.
"Wu Chengfeng, what do you mean? The sincerity I'm saying is that I need you to provide some production technology for key components. Only with the technology can I be in the middle!" Although I said so in my mouth.But Chen Daoming stared blankly at the $200 million check.
Although these guys from Taiwan used to spend a lot of money, they usually only had tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars, but this time, they actually gave 200 million dollars!
How much profit is there in these CNC equipment!
.....................................
"Everyone, let me tell you that the mainland officials want our spindle production technology and transmission parts production technology. Shall we give it or not?" After sending away Chen Daoming and other officials from the mainland, Peng Zhi, Wu Chengfeng, The three of Wang Ziqing continued to discuss countermeasures in the meeting room.
"Chairman Peng, this technology. We must not hand it over to mainland companies. If they can produce all the key components themselves, we will really be doomed in the future!" Wang Ziqing, who has never taken the initiative in front of Peng Zhi, directly put forward his own opinion.
"If we don't hand over the technology we have in our hands, we can still maintain profits on the export of these key spare parts. If the factories in the mainland can even produce these parts by themselves, the production cost will be higher than that in the mainland with government policy support. We in the factory, how can we compete with them? Even without this huge order, as long as we increase our efforts to tackle key problems in the private market in the mainland, we still have a great opportunity. And given these technologies. After this order is completed, Unless we can develop a four-axis machining center or a shaftless machining center in a short period of time, there will be no chance!" At this point.Wu Chengfeng also had the same opinion.
"We built a factory in the mainland because we came here for the mainland's official national order, but now there is an accident like Jiuyi Heavy Industry, which not only makes our profit far lower than the original expectation. It also makes the whole mainland There are many competitors. Judging from the current situation, if we can’t get the order from the mainland this time, our investment in the mainland will not be recovered in five years!” Peng Zhi didn’t know how to hand over the key technology to the mainland officials. It is tantamount to drinking poison to quench thirst!
But at present, this matter has put them in a dilemma!
Giving technology is shooting yourself in the foot; not giving technology, for them, the profit margin is insufficient, the bank loan cannot be repaid, and the financial pressure is too great...
"Chairman Peng, I have an idea. I don't know if it's feasible..." Wang Ziqing saw that Peng Zhi, who was always decisive in his actions, also had a frowning expression, and immediately wanted to express the idea that he had been thinking for a long time.
"We should use our production technology grades to produce equipment of different technical grades, not only in terms of processing accuracy, but also in terms of price. Although some products with low precision grades are available in our country and abroad There is no market at all, but some private bosses in the mainland like to be cheap, and they don't understand this technology at all. As long as they can complete the processing of their products, as long as the price is cheap enough, they will definitely Someone will buy it!" Wang Ziqing had been thinking about this for a long time.
However, if Peng Zhi did not agree to this matter, even if he communicated with Peng Zhi, he would be isolated by his colleagues in Taiwan.
His Taiyu Precision Machinery production technology is inferior to that of Dingsheng CNC established by Wu Cheng who came from Taichung Precision Machinery, and he can't compete with the big brother who has surpassed Taichung Precision Machinery, which has been in the CNC machine tool business since the beginning. Compared with Wanyou Group, which has become the number one in Taiwan.
However, on the mainland side, during this period of time, he found that those second-hand CNC equipment that were eliminated by cheap Taiwanese machinery factories with poor processing accuracy were very popular in the mainland market.
"You mean we will reduce the price of products on a small scale?" Peng Zhi instantly understood the meaning of Wang Ziqing's words.
Price reduction!
This is Jiuyi Heavy Industry's method against them.
In fact, it cannot be said that Jiuyi Heavy Industry has lowered the price. After all, they have set the price to that price since they first produced the product, and they are the ones who have been rewarding and lowering the price!
The price of imported machine tools has been reduced by one-third due to domestic production in the mainland.
And they can't set the price of the equipment assembled in mainland factories under the guise of local production in China at the same price as imported ones?Otherwise, how can we highlight the better performance of imported equipment?
I have dealt with people from the mainland for a long time, so that they understand that even with the same production technology and the same level of production workers, the products produced are not as advanced as imported products in the eyes of mainlanders, especially mainland officials. .
The technology is advanced and the price is high, which is understandable.
"It's not a small-scale product price reduction, but to develop more types. Our companies, whose factory does not have the production technology of some old products? We produce some of those old products and put them on the mainland market! We can't make money. We can’t make things easier for those state-owned factories in mainland China! Of course, Jiuyi Heavy Industry is the one that has a hard time!” Wang Ziqing said fiercely.
Jiuyi Heavy Industry, since they entered the mainland and started to build factories, the two sides have already started confrontation when Wu Chengfeng fought against them for the first time, but he did not expect that the competition between the two sides would escalate to such an extent in such a short period of time .
"Yes, not only that, we also need to speed up the construction of market channels and establish a comprehensive after-sales service system. Compete with mainland companies in all aspects. And develop some derivative products to expand profit sources..." Wang Ziqing's words let Wu Chengfeng's eyes lit up.
In this way, before these factories in mainland China have mastered the complete production technology, they use backward products to squeeze the market of these factories in mainland China, making it difficult for them to recover their investment in a short period of time. Eight hundred moves, but for them at present, it is very practical.
As long as these factories in the mainland are squeezed out, won't the market be completely up to them?
"Peng Dong, how is it?" The more they talked, the more excited they became, and the more they felt that it was feasible, they found that Peng Zhi didn't say a word from the beginning to the end.
"Under the current circumstances, this is the only way to go. Although we are all in the same association, when it is related to the life and death of each company, we will each act according to our own ideas! If you really want to go this way Bu Lu, but it is best to display these products at the China International Machine Tool Exhibition in September. Now time is running out, and if we mobilize resources from the local factories in Taiwan, we should be able to catch up..." (To be completed continued..)
The power outage in the community started at 07:30 this evening. I don’t know when I will come back. I’m so miserable.I can only go to the outside network...
It is impossible for the entire Taiwan Machine Tool Association to agree to the fact that mainland officials want to exchange a multi-billion CNC machine tool production order in exchange for a key three-axis machining center order.
The mainland has become the largest market for Taiwan's machinery and equipment exports. It is impossible for them to let their huge Chinese competitors use their technology to produce the same products as them to compete in the mainland China market.
"Minister Chen, we also explained to you at the beginning that there is nothing we can do about exporting technology. After all, we also use Japanese technology. So far, we have not had the production technology of some processing centers..." Wang Zi Qing knew that even if they agreed to export their production technology to the mainland now, the more than one billion order swallowed by Jiuyi Heavy Industry would not be returned.
Chen Daoming stared at Wang Ziqing meaningfully, and instead of speaking, looked at Peng Zhi.
"Minister Chen, our Taiwan also belongs to China! This technology is in our hands and in the hands of the country. What is the difference? As long as it can provide production equipment for the country's national defense construction, it will be fine? We are not now Did you build the production plant in the mainland?" Peng Zhi said to Chen Youdao flatly.
The failure of the industry has always been the flaw of the mainland officials.
In particular, these CNC equipment, which are listed as strategic resources by developed countries in Europe and the United States, have always been difficult for Chinese mainland officials to obtain. If it were not for the disintegration of the Soviet Union, changes in the international situation, and Europe, the United States, and Japan have achieved higher standards in high-end machine tools. Achievements, it is also impossible to export a large number of ordinary processing centers that have been reduced to middle and low grades to mainland China.
The export of Taiwanese machine tool factories to the mainland is also restricted by the United States and Japan.
Otherwise, they will be sanctioned.
"Chairman Peng. In addition to the ordinary heavy equipment and CNC equipment, there are also not small orders for four-axis and five-axis. I wonder if you are interested?"
"Our current four-axis machining center is still under development, let alone five-axis! Minister Chen, don't you still need thousands of three-axis machining centers? Can you think of a way to do this? Help us win more shares?" Four-axis and five-axis?This bastard really dares to think.
If Wanyou Group could produce four-axis machining centers, why would they worry about insufficient production orders?
Although the four-axis machining center is not as widely used as the three-axis.But the profit in the middle is not comparable to that of the three-axis machining center.
Taiwan's CNC equipment manufacturer, because of its low cost, the equipment produced is cheaper than that of European and American countries. It is used for rough machining of those large machinery manufacturers. The efficiency is higher than that of ordinary mechanical equipment, and the cost is lower than that of European and American countries Locally produced precision equipment is much lower.
"The matter of the three-axis machining center. At least three state-owned machine tool factories have obtained the production technology. In five years, more than 3000 machining centers are not enough for the production of these large-capacity enterprises. Chairman Peng. If you want to If a group wants to get a piece of the pie, it must show sincerity. Only in this way can I help you maneuver in the middle." Although Jiuyi Heavy Industry has handed over the production technology, other factories.Except for the Capital One Machine, it is impossible to form large-scale production in a short period of time.
If the Taiwanese can hand over the core production technologies of machining centers such as high-speed spindles, ball screws, and servo motors.This is definitely a great achievement for him, the deputy minister who facilitated the completion of this matter.
At the same time, he can also use these technologies to lobby various departments to distribute orders for the remaining thousands of machining centers to these companies in Taiwan. This is not impossible.
If this agreement can really be reached, for him, he will also have an account for the country, and relieve his guilt and anxiety for doing some nasty things; Confession, to prevent the two sides from tearing their faces, and in the end he might even lose his life.
Jiuyi Heavy Industry's own servo motor technology is not very mature, so the agreement does not require them to provide servo motor production technology and research materials; and the precision transmission components such as ball screws are not Jiuyi Heavy Industry's production technology at all, Wang Qingfeng The factory manager didn't know where it was at all, and Lin Yajun, the factory director, couldn't be the master at all; as for the spindle unit, Yun Fei directly refused to hand it over, and even if he didn't want this order, he had to completely control it in his own hands.
On the entire machining center, the most technical part is the spindle.
The production technology of the whole machine is fine, but if you want to get the production technology of the core components, don't even think about it!
In this matter, even the old man has no way to force Yunfei to hand over the production technology of the main shaft.
The state-owned machine tool factory used Jiuyi Heavy Industry's production technology to compete with Jiuyi Heavy Industry, and originally it was to grab food from Jiuyi Heavy Industry's bowl. If Yunfei couldn't get a part of their production profits, how could he be willing?
The market price of the spindles produced by Jiuyi Heavy Industry is as high as RMB 3000 each!Compared with imported spindles, this is still more than 1 yuan cheaper.If the production plants such as Capital Yiji who have obtained the technology are unwilling to buy spindles from Jiuyi Heavy Industry, they can also buy them from companies in Taiwan, Europe, America and Japan!
And Xinkaixing's ball screw used in the machining center is also very expensive, and the price per meter is as high as 2000 RMB!And the imported ball screw is only [-] to [-] meters!
For the machining center produced by Jiuyi Heavy Industry, only the cost of the main shaft unit and the transmission unit accounts for one-fifth of the production cost of the entire equipment!
Similarly, this profit is much higher than one-fifth of the entire machine tool profit.
"Minister Chen, look at this, does it represent our sincerity?" Wu Chengfeng wished he could kill Chen Daoming, but he could only think about it!
200 million!
Still dollars!
These guys are rich!
Seeing the USD cash check handed over by Wu Chengfeng, Chen Daoming suddenly felt his breathing become a little short of breath.
"Wu Chengfeng, what do you mean? The sincerity I'm saying is that I need you to provide some production technology for key components. Only with the technology can I be in the middle!" Although I said so in my mouth.But Chen Daoming stared blankly at the $200 million check.
Although these guys from Taiwan used to spend a lot of money, they usually only had tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars, but this time, they actually gave 200 million dollars!
How much profit is there in these CNC equipment!
.....................................
"Everyone, let me tell you that the mainland officials want our spindle production technology and transmission parts production technology. Shall we give it or not?" After sending away Chen Daoming and other officials from the mainland, Peng Zhi, Wu Chengfeng, The three of Wang Ziqing continued to discuss countermeasures in the meeting room.
"Chairman Peng, this technology. We must not hand it over to mainland companies. If they can produce all the key components themselves, we will really be doomed in the future!" Wang Ziqing, who has never taken the initiative in front of Peng Zhi, directly put forward his own opinion.
"If we don't hand over the technology we have in our hands, we can still maintain profits on the export of these key spare parts. If the factories in the mainland can even produce these parts by themselves, the production cost will be higher than that in the mainland with government policy support. We in the factory, how can we compete with them? Even without this huge order, as long as we increase our efforts to tackle key problems in the private market in the mainland, we still have a great opportunity. And given these technologies. After this order is completed, Unless we can develop a four-axis machining center or a shaftless machining center in a short period of time, there will be no chance!" At this point.Wu Chengfeng also had the same opinion.
"We built a factory in the mainland because we came here for the mainland's official national order, but now there is an accident like Jiuyi Heavy Industry, which not only makes our profit far lower than the original expectation. It also makes the whole mainland There are many competitors. Judging from the current situation, if we can’t get the order from the mainland this time, our investment in the mainland will not be recovered in five years!” Peng Zhi didn’t know how to hand over the key technology to the mainland officials. It is tantamount to drinking poison to quench thirst!
But at present, this matter has put them in a dilemma!
Giving technology is shooting yourself in the foot; not giving technology, for them, the profit margin is insufficient, the bank loan cannot be repaid, and the financial pressure is too great...
"Chairman Peng, I have an idea. I don't know if it's feasible..." Wang Ziqing saw that Peng Zhi, who was always decisive in his actions, also had a frowning expression, and immediately wanted to express the idea that he had been thinking for a long time.
"We should use our production technology grades to produce equipment of different technical grades, not only in terms of processing accuracy, but also in terms of price. Although some products with low precision grades are available in our country and abroad There is no market at all, but some private bosses in the mainland like to be cheap, and they don't understand this technology at all. As long as they can complete the processing of their products, as long as the price is cheap enough, they will definitely Someone will buy it!" Wang Ziqing had been thinking about this for a long time.
However, if Peng Zhi did not agree to this matter, even if he communicated with Peng Zhi, he would be isolated by his colleagues in Taiwan.
His Taiyu Precision Machinery production technology is inferior to that of Dingsheng CNC established by Wu Cheng who came from Taichung Precision Machinery, and he can't compete with the big brother who has surpassed Taichung Precision Machinery, which has been in the CNC machine tool business since the beginning. Compared with Wanyou Group, which has become the number one in Taiwan.
However, on the mainland side, during this period of time, he found that those second-hand CNC equipment that were eliminated by cheap Taiwanese machinery factories with poor processing accuracy were very popular in the mainland market.
"You mean we will reduce the price of products on a small scale?" Peng Zhi instantly understood the meaning of Wang Ziqing's words.
Price reduction!
This is Jiuyi Heavy Industry's method against them.
In fact, it cannot be said that Jiuyi Heavy Industry has lowered the price. After all, they have set the price to that price since they first produced the product, and they are the ones who have been rewarding and lowering the price!
The price of imported machine tools has been reduced by one-third due to domestic production in the mainland.
And they can't set the price of the equipment assembled in mainland factories under the guise of local production in China at the same price as imported ones?Otherwise, how can we highlight the better performance of imported equipment?
I have dealt with people from the mainland for a long time, so that they understand that even with the same production technology and the same level of production workers, the products produced are not as advanced as imported products in the eyes of mainlanders, especially mainland officials. .
The technology is advanced and the price is high, which is understandable.
"It's not a small-scale product price reduction, but to develop more types. Our companies, whose factory does not have the production technology of some old products? We produce some of those old products and put them on the mainland market! We can't make money. We can’t make things easier for those state-owned factories in mainland China! Of course, Jiuyi Heavy Industry is the one that has a hard time!” Wang Ziqing said fiercely.
Jiuyi Heavy Industry, since they entered the mainland and started to build factories, the two sides have already started confrontation when Wu Chengfeng fought against them for the first time, but he did not expect that the competition between the two sides would escalate to such an extent in such a short period of time .
"Yes, not only that, we also need to speed up the construction of market channels and establish a comprehensive after-sales service system. Compete with mainland companies in all aspects. And develop some derivative products to expand profit sources..." Wang Ziqing's words let Wu Chengfeng's eyes lit up.
In this way, before these factories in mainland China have mastered the complete production technology, they use backward products to squeeze the market of these factories in mainland China, making it difficult for them to recover their investment in a short period of time. Eight hundred moves, but for them at present, it is very practical.
As long as these factories in the mainland are squeezed out, won't the market be completely up to them?
"Peng Dong, how is it?" The more they talked, the more excited they became, and the more they felt that it was feasible, they found that Peng Zhi didn't say a word from the beginning to the end.
"Under the current circumstances, this is the only way to go. Although we are all in the same association, when it is related to the life and death of each company, we will each act according to our own ideas! If you really want to go this way Bu Lu, but it is best to display these products at the China International Machine Tool Exhibition in September. Now time is running out, and if we mobilize resources from the local factories in Taiwan, we should be able to catch up..." (To be completed continued..)
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